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bloody_huge23
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AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 06:01 Go to next message
Is this possible because i got my brother to dyno my car and he got a dyno reading of 82.5kw. It was at crydon auto.
Is this possible, is it uncommon? BTW mods= pod filter and exhaust. standard 1986 box.
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Adam
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what is so hard to belive about it?
the toyota claimed figures are quoted atf and are said to be over estimated
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
um using a driveline loss of say 25% for a FWD car that would equate to 110kw at the flywheel so why are you concerned. Surprised
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its just that i was looking at the records for under 1800NA a couple of dyno days ago and i was thinkn that they looked pretty low compared to my car making 82 i was like that cant be right.
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so it's optimistic..

fwd losses are "supposed" to be around 15% anyway...

it's only a number
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i can see the headline now "DYNO READS HIGHER POWER THAN CAR PUTS OUT"

thats a respectable figure, take it to the drag strip if you are concerned, i'd be quite happy if my smallport sprinter put out that power
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats quite weird cause that exactly what im doing. Goin down WSID on the 19th of oct
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
great, your trap speed will give an indication of power.
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That's about right for fwkw with a pod and exhaust...

Maybe a little tune up is needed Razz
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lol its just croydon telling you what you want to hear, did they say they tuned it for you aswell Laughing
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
umm my brother worked for them so ummm im sure it was accurate to his knowledge.. Mad BTW wat is trap speed? is it overall speed?

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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bloody_huge23 wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 19:29

umm my brother worked for them so ummm im sure it was accurate to his knowledge.. Mad BTW wat is trap speed? is it overall speed?


its teh speed yorue going though the trapp (at hte end of the 1/4 so dont back off until ya past the line.)
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Tue, 11 October 2005 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oldcorollas wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 17:58

so it's optimistic..

fwd losses are "supposed" to be around 15% anyway...

it's only a number


Yeah, I normally work with roughly 17% losses.

Yay, my car must make about the same at the wheels since I have a pod filter and manifold back exhaust Cool

Thats a pretty healthy figure for a NA 1.6 A guy I know with a U12 Pintara is only making 84fwkw with a pod, exhaust and a stage 3 antrx chip, and thats out of a 2.4
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Wed, 12 October 2005 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hint for a tune up for a 4AGE..

tools 12mm spanner..
timing light..

providing your using 98 octane or the equivilent optimax/ultimate etc, have decent plugs (iridium etc) new dizzy cap/button, and the engine is in overall good condition..wind about 27 degrees advance into the base timing..don't forget to jump T1 (or TE1) and E1 with a small bit of wire, to disable the ecu retard/advance on idle.. you'll physically notice the difference!

if it pings a little back off a tiny bit..but 25-27 you should be pretty good Wink

matty
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Wed, 12 October 2005 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Want more KW at wheels?
Put smaller wheels and tires on ur ride..... Then dyno it
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Wed, 12 October 2005 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
drift86 levin, are you serious? think i'm runing 10 degrees base at the moment.

Driftx, are you serious? you know about the relationship between speed, torque and power dont you?
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icon1.gif  Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Wed, 12 October 2005 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shinybluesteel wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 23:39

drift86 levin, are you serious? think i'm runing 10 degrees base at the moment.

Driftx, are you serious? you know about the relationship between speed, torque and power dont you?


Of course
Just not a real big fan of chassis dynos (my opinion), and i respect every1 elses opinions aswell...
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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Thu, 13 October 2005 00:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
drift86levin wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 20:29

hint for a tune up for a 4AGE..

tools 12mm spanner..
timing light..

providing your using 98 octane or the equivilent optimax/ultimate etc, have decent plugs (iridium etc) new dizzy cap/button, and the engine is in overall good condition..wind about 27 degrees advance into the base timing..don't forget to jump T1 (or TE1) and E1 with a small bit of wire, to disable the ecu retard/advance on idle.. you'll physically notice the difference!

if it pings a little back off a tiny bit..but 25-27 you should be pretty good Wink

matty


Do you know what the safe limit of timing is before it'll start knocking?

Taking my rolla to a dyno day and I wanted to try putting some more timing in but I really can't afford to cook pistons or anything like that

edit: notice your JDM bigport in your sig says RIP, wasn't casue of two much timing was it?

[Updated on: Thu, 13 October 2005 00:05]

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Re: AE82 with 100kw motor making 82kw atw? Thu, 13 October 2005 00:53 Go to previous message
Lachie wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 10:03

drift86levin wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 20:29

hint for a tune up for a 4AGE..

wind about 27 degrees advance into the base timing... you'll physically notice the difference!

if it pings a little back off a tiny bit..but 25-27 you should be pretty good Wink

matty


edit: notice your JDM bigport in your sig says RIP, wasn't casue of two much timing was it?



lolZoR!
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