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Kravit
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icon11.gif  Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 10:45 Go to next message
Hey guys i just bought ae86 half-cut today for 2200, we agreed to few things that he didnt stick to and lie about, plus me young stupidy fell in.

We agreed 2200 for 4age halfcut, only thing good on car is engine bay, rest is either broken or gone.

Here is few things he didnt stick to.
I asked him to least keep one good light on the car, he didnt.

He said he just wanted to take dash out, he didnt he took everything out.
He also wanted to take brake booster, i said no!, might neeed it. I want actual halfcut to take home, thats whole point in buying one.

He said the car did 65,000 kms only, i didnt bother looking since this is very trusted guy and payed him and said i want to pick it up today, he said i couldnt, i need to take dash out, "i replied doesnt take that long ", but he refused, i knew he was up to something after that, he could of changed gearbox aswell to one that is not working over those two days after i paid for it, who knows.

This is when i went to pick it up realising he guted the plastics out of the car and brake lines.

I arrived at his workshop, having look at the halfcut and looking at it and he took everything out, I said i told him i wanted to keep the dash and some plastics because when i put the new engine in i will have those kms on the dash instead of old one.
He then told me he sold it that very day, what was lie, i was looking around and saw bunch of plastics in a box what were from the halfcut and there it sits the dash, I said thought you sold it, he said no, someone has already bought it,I look at kms with 156,000 kms on the clock, i asked him you told me it was only 65,000kms he didnt say anything,changing subject to another thing, because when he said he sold the speedo, i said cant i least have a jdm one for jdm engine, so he grabs another out of the box what has least 5 other ae86 speedos, so why would he need to sell that one hey ? if he has so maney anyway ??,plus the the one he was going to sell had broken plastic face.

He also left brake line in the car lying down, he said oh thats not for it and took it out, i didnt say anything, i knew it was for it since i had to buy news ones for mine and they do cost bit to get made up.

He then wouldnt give me reciept or waranty, i asked him can i have reciept, he said well you dont want to pay tax on that do you ??, (i didnt reply saying well why not mark it up to how much would it cost with tax in the first place hey ?). after that i asked well what happens if gear box is screwed, can i get another one, he didnt reply just changed the topic again.

Realy thought this guy was legit since alot of ae86 mates go there here in perth. I did only pay 2000 for the engine, i still had 200 to pay, on monday, what i didnt, i just left with engine on the back of my car extremely pissed off and left Mad

Now should i mention who this guy is in Perth and ruin his business for him hey ???????? i just might if i find anything else wrong with engine when its in the car, or you people can pm and ask.
Aswell said he paid 1900 for it in japan, what bullsh#t, hes runnning business, only means making 300 bucks on it.

[Updated on: Mon, 17 October 2005 11:17]

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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i would ask for my money back personally from memory dont you need to show proof of purchase if you want to register the car with the new engine. This engine you bought could also be stolen. I think its highly unlikley that a 4age would only have dont 65000km even in japan they are quite an old car now
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Kravit
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would, but no proof now, he can say i didnt pay any, i have bank receipts showing how much i took out on the day i did pay him. but he cant say shit because he is getting away without out paying taxes.

He is trying to get his 200 now,not paying him after he put me through all that sh#t
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'd get in touch with department of consumer affairs and ask them what to do. or if they can help.

the only problem is proof...no receit or warrenty.
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Kravit
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well, he is on these forums so he might see this.
When i do put it in if has problems i will be mentioning his name on here and other forums.
I actualy thought this guy was legit source for ae86 parts.

The ae86 aint best fucken car in the world, stop overcharing 3rd and 5th hand parts Mad
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
id just post the dodgy cunts name and adress and business and let everyone know what type of person he is - hell give u what you want if u do - if not noone else will deal with him again taking advantage of younger peoples just as bad as an older person... if u read this u should be ashamed of yaself
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Kravit
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I just might Mad
Guess what he even lied about the pallet the halfcut was one, he said he was renting the pallet ???????? and couldnt give me it, so he gave me one that was totaly smashed to put it on. tell me if im wrong, since when do you rent pallets hey ???
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CONSUMER AFFAIRS Cool
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Clint (CLG)!? Laughing
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You do actually rent pallets.

Just call the tax office and report that he's selling on the side wothout including GST.

They'll be on him like hair on a gorilla.

Get his email address start signing him up for porn, a lot of porn.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you always rent pallets.

you no like, you no buy. easy!

2200 is a hell of a lot to pay for an engine package for a sprinter.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rainey wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 21:02

Clint (CLG)!? Laughing


Nice try, but no, definitely not me!

Next time Kravit, talk to others before buying, most of us here in Perth are happy to talk to you and give advice. At the end of the day, Perth is a small city - word gets around, doing business like that will only be to the detriment of the seller.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just post the bastards name (not business name) Very Happy

Gotta teach these mofo's a lesson one way or another Razz
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Kravit
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks guys,
yeh it is pretty expensive, He sent txt back if you want waranty it will cost me more!!, he should be able to tell me if there is anything wrong with it and shouldnt have to pay extra for over priced engine in first place

[Updated on: Mon, 17 October 2005 13:43]

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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This whole thing sounds a bit confusing from the start... you say he said he wanted to take out the dash but then you complain about him taking the plastic's and dash out of the car.
Possibly you thought he was taking the instrument cluster not the whole dash.

Are you sure this guy is running a business? Possibly he couldn't give you a receipt because he doesn't have a registered business.
If this is the case he could just write something like this on a bodgy receipt on a bit of paper to keep the RTA happy.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mon, 17 October 2005 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toobs wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 23:48

This whole thing sounds a bit confusing from the start... you say he said he wanted to take out the dash but then you complain about him taking the plastic's and dash out of the car.
Possibly you thought he was taking the instrument cluster not the whole dash.

Are you sure this guy is running a business? Possibly he couldn't give you a receipt because he doesn't have a registered business.
If this is the case he could just write something like this on a bodgy receipt on a bit of paper to keep the RTA happy.

And if he did that, then Kravit could get his money back.

DUDE! Don't take that shit. For just engine, you can get a 4A-GZE for $1500!
Step 1
Get your money back! Threaten to report him to consumer affairs.
Step 2
Actualy report him to consumer affairs regardless of if he gives you your money back
Step 3
Report him to the tax office (don't tell him you're gonna do this unless you HAVE to).
Step 4
Sign him up for as much porn as you can, and tell your mates not to deal with him (don't post his buisness name here, as it can get the board in trouble).
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 00:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eh, if you haven't paid, just don't give him the money. Better in your pocket than his.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude,

That's really expensive for a sprinter half cut. I wouldnt pay more than $2000 for a complete one with panels, breaks, dash, engine, gearbox, bumper, grille and a half decent pair of wheels.

It would also have to be turn key (hook up a fuel supply and pump and it should start).

Takumi tax sucks - especially when you are getting what is essentially a worn, 86kw, big port 4AG.

Try for a refund.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cut the shit whats his toymods name... or "business" - if u havent made anything about ya story up what u have to worry about
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I realy should, he hounding me still for 200, my parents saying samething to me.
I know their dealt with dicks like this. stingy bastard took even the brakelines, pathetic.
and he send txt msg back "you think anyone will believe you,I've been business for 5 years"

I looked up his ABN and only been in business for year and half. more fucken lies.

He is right tho, dont think anyone beleive me because alot of toymoders in perth go to this guy, why would i lie ?
It's only 200 bucks, i just paid what was fair when ripped everything off,should of been even less.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Man, just wash your hands of the whole situation, take the halfcut back and DEMAND a full refund. If he doesnt want to then get consumer affairs onto him. Once you have your money back i would do that anyway.
Another halfcut will come around again, they are rarer than an S13, but not so rare that you will not see another for a year. Go to a reputable place and they will import one specifically for you.
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Kravit
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 02:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The thing is i need it now,my 4ac is about to break down, I cant wait any longer and i dont know where im going to get another place doing ae86 halfcuts in Perth
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kravit wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 12:00

The thing is i need it now,my 4ac is about to break down, I cant wait any longer and i dont know where im going to get another place doing ae86 halfcuts in Perth


So grab another 4ac and throw it in there for the time being, not like they are expensive.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dust wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 12:23

Kravit wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 12:00

The thing is i need it now,my 4ac is about to break down, I cant wait any longer and i dont know where im going to get another place doing ae86 halfcuts in Perth


So grab another 4ac and throw it in there for the time being, not like they are expensive.

That is a good and cheap idea. Very cheap. You could probably get a 4a-c for free.

stealth007008, I'm pretty sure what you're asking Kravit to do will get this thread locked, and Kravit warned. Don't ask him to do this sort of thing.
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeh, I realy just want to get the 4ac out, had it in there for 2 years now and needs few new parts ,i thought i could get that of the halfcut while im doing conversion and i just cant stand piss weak engine anymore

[Updated on: Tue, 18 October 2005 03:03]

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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 03:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kravit wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 20:45


He then wouldnt give me reciept or waranty, i asked him can i have reciept, he said well you dont want to pay tax on that do you ??, (i didnt reply saying well why not mark it up to how much would it cost with tax in the first place hey ?).


WTF?!

More like he doesn't want to pay any tax of $200 (GST) on the sale - plus you have opened yourself wide open because you don't have an official document now to support the fact that you bought something from him (therefore no warranty at all).

"Um ... I didn't sell no AE86 halfcut ... never seen that one before in my life ..." Rolling Eyes


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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sad That really sucks man,
1. try take it back, you can get a gze for that money.
2. if you havent got a receipt how can he ask for the extra $200??
3.Call consumer affairs. Smile
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard....dont fall for this guys sob story!!!

The person in question is a trusted and reputable seller and has never had any complaints against him until this fool came along.

I was at the workshop when he came to inspect the half cut and heard the conversation, all the parts to be removed from the half cut were marked with a white pen while he was there and he was told the only thing he is getting is the complete engine loom, jdm 4age, jdm gearbox and he just kept whinging and trying to scam more stuff, it was agreed that the brake booster would stay...which it did, the headlight and all the other crap was marked and he was specifically told that he is not getting any of it.

When he looked at the half cut the dash was still on the car and he looked at it...closely....there is no way an ae86 will have 60K on it....thats just nuts...it was clearly on the dash Rolling Eyes

if this guy didnt like the price then he shouldnt of purchased the halfcut....there is no such shit as agreeing on the price and then deciding to just not pay the remaining money cos ur dad or mother or whoever says u been ripped off....what are u a child...decisions u make are urs, u cant change ur mind after u pick up the goods....

and all this bullshit about tax evasion is just a load of toss....i have personally purchased 2 half cuts and 2 engines and its all legit...it has to be otherwise u cant register the car.....and now after doing all this u probably wont be able to since u decided to bugger off without paying all the money...therefore no receipt...

its easy to just go and bag out somone elses good name because ur a whinging little bitch but at least have some balls and stop making up shit for gods sake!!

In case people are wondering i have no relations to this guy and get no money out of defending him...it just shits me off to see people like this have the nerve to go on and bag the shit out of good people

sorry if im a bit too rude but this is just bullshit

thanx

Adam
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Re: Dodgy people,lying bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tue, 18 October 2005 05:37 Go to previous message
i dont know about over there in perth but every where you ask
on the east coast:
aprox avg

JDM ae86 4age engine package which is
engine, g/b, loom, ecu, brake booster, clutch master and slave
all hydralic lines need to connect the new parts, clutch pedal

basically turn key package minus fuelpump

with 1 month warranty some unlimited kms for $2000

but ae86 engine package cost more than latter model
packages due to supply and demand

but this guys has fucked you over Sad
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