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Brisbane
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December 2002
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3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Thu, 12 February 2004 22:44
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I have been offered a 3SGE out of a 92 celica with cpu and harness for a good price. Is it worth my time and money converting my 3SFE with this? Any been done and if so any problems with the conversion? Or should I go to a 3SGTE?
Thanx 
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Thu, 12 February 2004 22:49
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I reckon if you are going to the hassle of a engine transplant, you may as well fit the better engine in the first place.
You will be going from 88Kw to around 110Kw (?) with the 3SGE swap, with the 3SGTE you'd go to ~150Kw.
If you can get the motor with all the fuelling components, ECU, loom, turbo and downpipe.. it would really help. I believe (although have no personal experience with this) that the MR2 Turbo gearbox is the one to use. Or go very very gently on your standard box.
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Location:
Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Thu, 12 February 2004 23:55
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Yeah man I'd say it'd be worth the while. A 3sfe to ge would be as simple as pulling out the 3sfe, loom and ecu, droping the 3sge in (uses same mounts), if the looms already connected to the engine bonus, and plug it into the ecu, it would be simple as.
Plus a nice little power hike.
easy... one question actually, 92 celicas didn't come with 3sge engines, they had 5sfe, so is it a 3sge?
however the 3sgte is an extremly difficult swap to do, I have done it and wouldn't recomend it.
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Thu, 12 February 2004 23:57
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dudes anyone know how much kw a gen 2 3sge actually puts out?
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Location:
Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Fri, 13 February 2004 00:00
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yeah it's like:
gen1 103kw
gen2 118kw
gen3 138kw
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Fri, 13 February 2004 00:07
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ah sweet thanks dude I totally coudln't remember.. was eyeing the 3sge in the parts for sale section.. 
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Location:
Brisbane
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December 2002
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Fri, 13 February 2004 12:03
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"easy... one question actually, 92 celicas didn't come with 3sge engines, they had 5sfe, so is it a 3sge?"
Well I was told it was out of a st162 celica or something like that about a 92 model.. but yeah pretty sure its a 3SGE.
Thanx for the info apprieciate it!!
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Location:
South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Sat, 14 February 2004 01:28
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The ST162 was manufactured between 1986 and 1989
I'm not sure, but the only big difference between the two engines is the head? (that is, the gen 1 FE and GE).
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Sat, 14 February 2004 02:36
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I am dropping in a mr2 3sge into my camry but its the same motor, the only problem you have is getting custom mounts made up if you want them stronger, or can leave the factory mounts in if you want, also getting someone to do the wiring other than that its a peice of cake to do  .
Heres a site on info for a 3sge camry conversion, that motor in the pic will be mine soon  . :
http://cust.idl.net.au/dana/doctak.htm
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Location:
Canberra
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August 2002
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Sat, 14 February 2004 04:39
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what do you mean extremely difficult... 
couldnt have been too hard you had the 3sge out and the gte in and running in like 2 months....
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Location:
Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Mon, 16 February 2004 13:25
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| alwaysRA23 wrote on Sat, 14 February 2004 15:39 |
what do you mean extremely difficult...
couldnt have been too hard you had the 3sge out and the gte in and running in like 2 months....
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It's only not that diffucult if you know pretty much what you are doing with these cars, if you have no clue, then it's pretty difficult....... ohhh shut up 
So thats the specs, there not bad at all.
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Location:
Canberra
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August 2002
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Mon, 16 February 2004 15:10
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soooooooooo........
whats the power output on the differant gen 3SGTE's????
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Tue, 17 February 2004 05:25
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this is very very interesting.
seems the "official" Australian power stat for the gen2 seems quite low. Don't they always conservatively list power stats? Or is that just the old 147kw cap thingy.
Mesa wants a gen3 now
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Location:
Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Tue, 17 February 2004 05:31
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gen1 3SGTE 137kw
gen2 3SGTE 160kw
gen3 3SGTE 181kw
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Location:
Tasmania
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June 2005
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Re: 3SFE to 3SGE conversion
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Wed, 19 October 2005 12:25
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hello to all! i have a 1988 st162 celica and i have a cracked head atm  and it is $750 for a new head or $1000 for a 3sge motor. so i want to get the motor and put it into my 3sfe celica, but i dont know whats involved and if it is really worth it, i mean, would i really notice the difference? please email anything u think will help to: peteys_rippin_shit@hotmail.com thanks heaps to all that help me coz i need to make a decision FAST!
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