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chrisss
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Programmable Ignition control choices? Wed, 26 October 2005 08:23 Go to next message
talking of differnet types of 3D rev v loadsetups here

whats the best value path to go down??

do the megasquirt guys do something along these lines??
(but it always seems to be in development stage - "just around the corner") and too bloody confusing as well - EDIS, what the!!

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Re: Programmable Ignition control choices? Wed, 26 October 2005 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Why would you want a 3D ignition curve?

Just base it purely on revs, much simpler.
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Re: Programmable Ignition control choices? Wed, 26 October 2005 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
isnt the whole idea around programmable ignition to utilise a 3d map?

I know a curve based on revs would be much simpler, but different loads at identical rpm's would benefit from different timing settings.

If I went custom ignition I would want a 3d map, otherwise its basically like an electric version of a vacuum advance unit Confused
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Re: Programmable Ignition control choices? Wed, 26 October 2005 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm 99% sure my Microtech doesnt do 3D ignition maps.
It would be a head fuck to setup.

There are maps for advancing/retarding due to vacuum/boost, coolant temp, intake temp etc etc, but its not a 3D map in the same way the fuel map is.
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Re: Programmable Ignition control choices? Wed, 26 October 2005 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message


the megasquirt has a 3d map for ignition timing. You need this so that you can run more advance under light loads, this increases fuel economy i think. eg at 3000rpm i run about 35 degrees under WOT, but coasting it runs over 40 degrees.

boost retard can be just done in the boost section (MAP > 100kpa) of the igition map. don't need an extra section.

air temp, and coolant temp corrections are separete.

Megasquirt'n'Spark-Extra or Megaquirt-II is what you need if you want ignition control.

http://megasquirt.sourceforge.net/extra/

You can even do COP with MSnS-E with the right sensors. cheap way, but don't expect it to be a walk in the park though.

if you want ignition only control look at MejaJoltLite Junior or something.
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Re: Programmable Ignition control choices? Wed, 26 October 2005 14:11 Go to previous message
1 vote for MegaJoltLite Junior - cool ill look into it!!

Yes I definatly want 3D mapping....its not the 1980s you know!! otherwise light load running will be shit...
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