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V8 RA celica
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Mon, 17 February 2003 02:37
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boys and girls, this may be a silly question, because i am bored ay work and thought hey i should ask, maybe help fill in others boring day at work  ......
Ra28 (mustang back) can ya put a V8 in them sorta easyish.
like 302, 351, 308, what ever is cheaper and easyer. I love my next door's car (V8 ford) and it sounds so horn! just thought as a fun project i could do it.
I used to love playing on my 1ggte halfcut starting it up and the likes untill i sold all my celica and engines.
i am thinking 302 etc because easyer and cheaper than a 1uzfe?
anyway idea's
(prob wont do it because it would require a lot of work yes)
infact will it fit between the struts, need huge brakes, wouldn't steer, use lots of fuel, would the ford box fit in. etc etc oh and smashed rear end still would be a sweet mini mustang!)
regards
Ben
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 17 February 2003 03:55
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the holden 308 goes in very easily and i have seen it done, its been done a hundred times but unfortunatly the laws have changed (in NSW anyways) and you cannot legaly register a 5litre in a RA23/28.
the lightest model celica u can do this in is the RA40, but check your local roads and traffic authority laws as they may have changed once again.
ford V8's require a little more stuffing around to get theim in i have heard.
if Dean aka "V8Celica" is still on the forums he can give u some info on this swap.
no doubt there will be mention of handling and weight distribution in the following replys so i may as well say it as well. unless u plan on only going in a straight line then do it otherwise the weight of the engine will stuff up the handling of the car.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 17 February 2003 07:31
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GO A BOSS 302 motor...pm me for more details...im puttin one in my supra and they r great...351 might be hard to get rego for...(capacity so big)
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 17 February 2003 07:43
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what about a rover 3.5l v8? best sounding v8 ever!
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 17 February 2003 09:20
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What about the little pushrod alloy toyota V8's? (4V, 5V, etc.) They come with those disgusting little sticks called pushrods, are fairly light, and look (kinda...) like a hemi... Plus handy sizes, 3.4 and 3.9 litres (and I think a few others as well) If you want more old school grunt then fit it with a rootes blower and a holley... otherwise please put something newer in there! Not a 1950s iron block!
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 17 February 2003 09:21
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Plus ROBBO, wouldn't a genuine BOSS 302 be worth a bit nowadays?
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 17 February 2003 23:34
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cheap and avalable it the way to go as this will only be a dreamer car, and i dont want to spend much on it maybe even *shudder* a 253 (holden) most likly the cheapest? and easyer to get on road......
i know it would be slow (and low on power when looking at toyota hypo engines but it would be a sweet old looking car with a nice note to boot)
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 01:51
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your best bets would be either 302 windsor ( head design makes it easier to fit , less "v" shaped ) or the 3.5litre rover job
the rover is pretty small - revs like the powers of piss and you can get good power from them BUT prices for parts are ghastly - and really they are not the best v8 about ( its british = shit )
ex housemate went thru three in 5 years in his land rover - they kept on throwing pistons and seals - one was even a specially prepared heavy duty motor - that lasted 40 thousand K before a piston tried to escape thru the side of the block
and this wasnt even hard driving !!!
i dont know iof you could carby a 1uzfe - though that would be the choice motor for EFI in a celica of your type ..
ive seen the 302 conversion twice and one rover v8 job - The windsor fitted well though transmission tunnel needed " massaging " to accomidate the c4 auto and the front springs etc needed beefing up to handle the extra weight and forces put on the front of the car.
you would also need to strengthen the chassis i guess to cope witht he extra toque load - and of course turf the standard diff in favour of something stronger ( ie borg warner LSD or hilux diff ! )
PS an original boss 302 would be near impossibnle to get though you can make one using windsor heads on the cleveland block i believe . Space wise this still could be a real issue due to head angle .
I say do the 302 winsor conversion if you have one lying about - and have fun !
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 02:55
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listen, i don't wanna offend the V8 guys on these forums and i know a few of u have put v8's in celica's and supras, but why the hell would u put a big piece of shit of a motor into a celica. There are 1000 other motors that would go in and do a better job and keep the cars weight distrubution even.
99% of v8's make a shit load of noise and go nowhere, %1 add turbos 
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 03:57
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| thunderbird1 wrote on Tue, 18 February 2003 13:55 |
99% of v8's make a shit load of noise and go nowhere, %1 add turbos
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BAAAAhahahaha That's a fucken great quote Luke! 
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 04:30
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annnnd what if i dont care if it goes no where.... Not all the conversions have to be EFI turbo. All my cars and conversions have been EFI and turbo so far and yes there fun but i would like somthing different!.....
may not be different for a celica or this forum or some of you but a V8 is very different for me and a carby WOW thats way different!
so its for the fun and i fell a 302 is a easyer to get running than a 1uzfe and easyer to find??
i'm no expert but just idea's
I am not scared of the EFI (done a few and a Electronics Tech.)
but a mini Mustang is what i wanted and hence a Ford V8 would suit well i think.
It looks like it may cost a Shite load tho. Susspention, brakes rearend!!! and strengthen the body
only want a clean V8 engine bay with that nice sound.
i'll wait and see
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 04:50
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| thunderbird1 wrote on Tue, 18 February 2003 13:55 |
99% of v8's make a shit load of noise and go nowhere, %1 add turbos
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Not mine, mate... 
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 05:35
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The above engines would be alot harder to fit in a corolla yes. I had a talk with a mate and he claims he wants to do it to a corolla KE there is a 351 corolla in melbourne KE30 but its gotta be a heap more work.
and i want the mustang
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 06:26
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i still say go for it - if you want a fun mini mustang - youd be spot on for the dial with a 302 powered ra28
the standard rear end wouldnt handle the power ( those rear ends are good for about 200hp thru them before they shit themselves i believe ) but youd have no traction at all having no LSD
i thionk its about 1200 to adapt a hilux/borg warner diff to a ra28 - seeing some figurees on here for that - plus theres one for sale in the " for sale " bit at the moment ..
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you could just do this ..
buy yourself a shitter XB/XC fairmont or fairlane - take the 9 inch or v8 lsd out of them - cut and shut it to fit to the ra28 - then use the 302 thats in them - for your motor , and the c4/c10 thats hanging off them for the transmission ..
you could buy a drivetrain doner car for about 1000 bucks if you dont mind having to do some work to freshen up the 302
thouse auto's are a dime a dozen - though the diff is hard to find
ironically - i know of an XD falcon up near my place with ALL this gear for a grand .. want me to enquire ??
diff gearbox and motor are all in good condition ..
just had a thought - youd proably need a diff that runs on the coil spring susppension - i think thats XE - ASk cool1 on that he knows as much or more about fords than I
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 07:52
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god damn u ppl...the boss 302 im making is a bloody windsor block with cleveland heads...NOT a cleveland block with windsor heads! It is what a boss 302 was. just copied.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 10:29
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Ahh well - it was one or the other -
the clevo's the stronger block of the two anyway - easier to stroke to a 351 as well - but for this ideal conversion the winsor is the go .. theres no way the engine bay would clear the cleveland heads
oh BTW - on ford blocks - the strongest EVER IMHO were the 302 / 351 blocks made in geelong .. the 351 geelong !
thats where the now legendary phase 3 and 4 blocks were cast and put together from memory , and our auissie blocks are heaps stronger than the yankee equivelent ..
Must be the metals ! go aussie v8's
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 10:38
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the rover 3.5l v8 is not a british engine it is a chevy racing engine whos origions come from the 1950's 60's. Rover took the engine de tuned it and put it into that ugly rover car they have and also the rangie.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 10:44
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and its still a piece of shit 
if its anything british - its EVIL! 
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 10:48
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i totally agree...the rover is a lump of poo....they wouldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding...windsor motors were better because they revd better, and weigh a lot less...like 100lbs between a c and a w...
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 10:57
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oh - they do make power - the 3.5's dont get me wrong - ive seen a few 200Kw + versions scooting about in clubmans and stuff and they do have one of the best notes about - but - they are a very "flimsy " motor IMHO - the design of the motors not one of strength - the rods are very thinish - compared to the larger blocks like chevs holdens and probably even the 1uz .. the pistons just seem way too light for my liking - no strength, no meat !..
the motor i described even had forgies in it and they STILL snapped like a twig
and as a fact - the rover revs a lot Higher than the ford motor , its all alloy so its the lighter of the two - compared to cast block / alloy head in the windsor
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 11:31
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KNOW the stength in a 1uz TOYOTA V8, there is a drag car out there with 700 odd hp with a STOCK bottom end, can you get that from any of the fords NO
and at the end of the day who would rather be driving a toyota with a all alloy toyota v8 motor...or an outdated pushrod iron lump of crap made by the company who cars you see most of broken down on the side of the highway FORD SUCK.
this is a friggin toyota forum anyway take that shit to where 17yr olds hang out with the escorts at maccas and tell those monkeys to stick a 302 in wherever it fits
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 11:46
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wow thats harsh celica....im not gonna argue but never say that ford are shit...im a holden fan but ford motors are damn fine engines....if you know enough about them....outdated pushrod v8s ay? theres an aussie built 5500HP!!!!! chev motor in a magazine...and no its not a huge big block...now explain to me how these engines are so crap??? Explain to me getting 5500hp out of a toyota alloy v8????
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 11:54
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Haha, it was in a magazine so it must be true!! Pity no dyno in the world can measure anywhere near 5500hp...
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 12:10
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I agree with norbie, Id like to see someone try to put that kind of power to the ground
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 12:11
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wait ill get the magazine..."tough v8s" this engine is a chrysler 426. Runs a 5.07 1/4 in a dragster...at 297mph.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 12:15
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one question to answer all yours...has anyone ever seen a 1uzfe running a 5 sec 1/4 at 300mph???? i didnt think so...believe it or not...anyway i dont care...just trying to prove a point that nobody should ever hang shit on old pushrod engines.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 12:29
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So now we're comparing nitromethane-burning supercharged big blocks to a mildly modified 1UZ? Come on, you might as well compare a lawnmower to the space shuttle.  They have about the same number of similarities and equal relevance to the discussion at hand...
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 14:15
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sure the V8 would 'sound' nice...
but is the chassis rails, subframe and strut towers up to holding all that weight?
or stiff enough to stop the front-end twisting when you load it up with the massive amount of torque a 302's going to produce under power?
and then there's drivability - all that extra weight's going to stuff up any steering, suspension geometry and braking behavior that toyota expected of the car?
By the time you've stengthened the chassis and subframe, redesigned and built new suspension, got brakes, found a gearbox, tailshaft, diff, fuel tank, wiring, blah blah... why not just buy a supra? or soarer? or a rotary eng?
butif you dot it, can i insure you (to benefit me) so when you die (young and probably at great speed) i can pay for EFI on my turbo RA40?
Doing a legal turbo in Qld cost me arm + many legs, i imagine that a blue-plated V8 up here would cost you dearly in payola, graft and corruption? i don't think a straight DoT inspector would even contemplate issuing you with a cert.
suggestion? locate a 6-cyl BMW from a race-prepped M3 or newer, they sound sexy, grunty, and at speed are terrfying, plus would probably fit in the engine bay if you did some panel work. And you'ld be past most capacity and weight issues. ?
my 2,
thechuckster
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 18 February 2003 16:46
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everyone is allowed to do what they want, some of us are just trying to save u the time and effort in making a car sound good but be no fun to drive.
we all know push rod v8's are crap, the high HP ones sound like they are about to fall apart and the low HP ones have that straining sound as they take off, much like a mini with 4 sumo's and a years worth of narks cat food in the boot.
If u want a V8, put it in a kingswood No offence pete
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 02:36
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A word about the Rovers...
I've had my RA28 since 97 and it was engineered way back in 91, I'm the third owner and after 11 and a bit years the whole thing has held up pretty well.
My last (and only) dyno tune was a year and a half ago and she put down 98Kw @ 6300 & 530Nm @ 3200.
I usualy change at 6 ish when Im up it. (When its warm of course!)
The thing leaks a bit of oil but as mentioned it is an English motor. Or a copy of an ancient Buick.
I have heard if they ar'nt mounted correctly they tend to snap cranks in half...
To get the thing in they ran the drivers side exhaust forward, around in front of the sump and back to meet up with the passenger side. The gearbox is a Celica 5 speed, apparently the second since the motor was put in, and is connected with a Dellow belhousing. It uses the standard Rover flywheel redrilled to suit a holden 308 pressure plate.
The generator and stuff are long gone, replaced with an alternator.
I put a non LSD Borg Warner diff in it 2 1/2 years ago and havent had a worry with it.
Traction is fine, unless I tap the accelerator before launch.
Dont know what springs are in it and due to cash and waiting to buy the right equipment, I have Genuine Toyota Shocks(!) in the rear.
During the downpour on the 10th traction was a bit of a problem.
The chasis itself is a bit of a concern, with some twist evident at the top of the C pillars. There are a few places where the thing could uses some beefing up, before anybody thought about putting more power through it.
Lunch times over, I'll be back later...
Catch ya...
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 03:17
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Hi Ben
I recon a little windsor would be a neat little set up,....
I have seen one recently, in an RA23 locally, lay down 300rwkw on the same dyno i use,.impressed the shit out of me and sounded strong doing it,.. it was in highly modified NA form and an expensive build to achieve this power
The RA23 i have been in with a windsor was a little nose heavy that is one of the down points to the castiron heads and block
I believe u are in Vic so check with the local engineers, i think they are more than happy to approve 302 capacity but i do know the rules are under heavy review at the moment, so definatley worth checking it all out before u commit yourself
I personally prefer the technology approach but everybody to themself for what they like and can budget for
Speaking of budget i think u will find that any v8 conversion will cost $
cya
J
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 07:25
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wayne - pull yer head in for just aminute and think
turbocelicas one of the guys whos been here as long or longer in the toyota modifying ring than you or I - and his idea was to do something Different. As he stated hes done the whole EFI thing and turbo thing before - and EVERYONES oppinion is welcome here thats why its PUBLIC forum ..
If we were selective in who we choose to voice oppinions this place wuld be as good as an electronic nazi convention - one idea - or you die
if he wants a V8 pushrod POS - its up to him ! it shis car - hes just looking for info
Is the same with that robbo guy with the supra - its their car - they can do what they like - as long as its all legal and above board
As for the 1uz - i dont think you can carby thay bugger easily - whereas the 302 you can - hell - go tot he nearest parts shop and they will name you a list as long as your arms for carby / manifold combinations ..
In a ra28 its a good thing if he want sto do the whole mini mustang - and seeing the ra28 isnt as heavy as the real thing - his lit baby ponycar will be quite the mover
turbo cilly - hopefully the oppinion of a few hasnt swayed the idea - good luck with it and ill try to help with ideas / infos where i can
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 07:56
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wayne - pull yer head in for just aminute and think
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If we were selective in who we choose to voice oppinions this place wuld be as good as an electronic nazi convention - one idea - or you die
if he wants a V8 pushrod POS - its up to him ! it shis car - hes just looking for info
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stuart YOU sit down and shut up, you cant tell me not to talk on my opinion and then condemn me at the same time for saying this is a toyota forum, if he wants to destroy his celica then good on him i never said he cant
if there was a nazi on these forums it would be you... the popularity nazi, always agreeing with people especially when it comes to fords, we sorry bud some people can think for themselves
if you have something to say to me about my person say it to me stop attacking me on these forums, lol
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 09:54
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Well, I agree with stuart.
I asked for idea's and info. I know its not for everyone, and well i do my conversions for myself to enjoy. I have never ever ever thought that anything ford was even close to a toyota engine.
i even would go as far as saying my 7mgte soarer was as good as the new xr6 turbo.
but who cares?!?!
i was after ideas fom people that have "seen" a older v8 (i have never touched one, seen like 2 because normally i am 4cyl EFI and turbo.
my celica was a 3tgteu not the best but fun and looked realy nice. I loved it thats what matters
The 302 may not be anything like a 1uzfe but i dont mind that
i was wanting a old car (RA28) with a old carby engine (302 etc)
only wanted to know the info people had on it.
and celicamad i dont think i am going to "destroy my celica".
these forums are getting all to agressive of late and i can see why no one would want to be different!
at the end of the day, yes this is a toyota forum, and i love my toyota's
OHHH WHAT A FELLING MODing A TOYOTA!
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 10:01
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thanks for the support there
My words were probably taken a bit oput of content - my point was no point in attacking a persons idea and saying they should go to another forum - if people are here willing to help
I DO know quite a bit about fords - and i DO like to give any help if anyone asks about these sort of conversions - and i have seen this conversion doen many times so any ideas i can give to Turbo celica would be good to help him on HIS way for HIS project
Toyota motors ARE better than ford technology wise i agree - but the fella wants a Old school ford carby motor in his ra28 ..
Anyway - i wont say anymore on this issue bar giving advice on the conversion where i can - i think everyone including myself needs to sit in the fridge and just Chill out for a while
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 10:10
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P.S this car will not be a race car, or drag car, and i may not even register it i dont know....
its for the "fun" of it
(funny how it starts as fun and ends up costing a shite load and is work)
P.P.S i just found my stash of home brew and its liquid gold so i'm really happy now about 67 slabs of it heheh
Keg system arrives soon lifes on the up
this car is a project (about to go wrong) and i have a daily driver *sudders* a new honda
*waiting waiting waiting .... BURN!!!!*
first ford now honda hehehe comeon get me
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 10:28
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fucken hondas...jap crap man....sound like fucken loud lawnmowers... shame on you.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 10:49
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for a daily driver its nice, power windows and mirrors, 5yrs service and about 5.5Lts per 100Km's so hey i aint loosing
in peak traffic i dont care and its rather nippy for a lil car
Vtec 1.5
maybe similar to 3/4 of a 20V 4age
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 10:53
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ok just dont get used to them...but a ma61 or ma70 instead 
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 11:43
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turbocelica - FYi - you're reasonably local.....speak with rapidflow developments in industrial avenue hoppers crossing - they'll know about this one - i had a go at a white TA22 - till i learned it had a Ford V8 in it - it fucking hammered and sounded awesome!!!!!
i'd imagine (jamie would be the authority on this) but i'd suggest a whole heap of seam welding would be required and possibly extra engineering to help rigidity of the TA22 to cope not so much with the power but the extra weight/torque of a ford v8...
i often think of a Holden VS V6 in my TA22 but i can't condone putting a non toyota motor in my beasty.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Wed, 19 February 2003 12:32
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why the fuck not...we're australian!!  Gotta love the torque of our v8s...look at the new xr8 motor ...260kw but fucken 500ft/lbs of gut wrenching torque!!! I dont think youll see a toyota engine unless very highly modified with anywhere near that amount of torque.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 02:24
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Another thing...
With the ALLOY Rover motor my car understeers like a dog on grass, its OK untill about 30 Kmh then she just pushes like mad. I think that this has a lot to do with the standard suspention geometry. I got some K-Mac camber/castor plates, wound the radius rods as far forward as they could go, dropped the top of the struts as far in and as far back as they could go and it seemed to help a bit.
You can stroke a Rover motor out to 5 Lt but as mentioned before the damn things cost a bomb to work on. Plenty of room in the engine bay though.
Given the option and knowledge when I got mine rebuilt, I would have gone UZ-FE for sure...
Oh well, theres always the next car
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 03:43
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I am tending that way, with all (most) 351's or 302's being very old they would need a rebuild - say $2K and they (351) only made 140kw?!?!?! thats gay!
this would then make the 1uzfe a much better bet less fuel similar price stronger motor, still i think the 1uzfe would cost lots to re-build etc etc (oposed to 351's)
i dunno its just all so hard maybe i'll sit on it another few months
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 05:07
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| TurboCelica wrote on Mon, 24 February 2003 14:43 |
this would then make the 1uzfe a much better bet less fuel similar price stronger motor, still i think the 1uzfe would cost lots to re-build etc etc (oposed to 351's)
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but you wouldnt need to rebuild the 1UZ because it wont be as old as any of the other 8's.
anyway for what its worth when i was over Dean's (aka V8Celica) place a little while back he was saying hes done plenty V8 conversions into celicas in his time and reckoned the holden 308 was the easiest to put in. The Ford donk needed more stuffing around.
hey robbo_MA61 is that your MA61 in your avatar? where did u manage to score the sideskirts for it? or did u buy it with them already on?
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 07:45
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not my car sorry, but mine is very similar...will be finished soon after engine is built to look same..
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 10:28
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308 hey even cheaper etc more parts
what power they have?
1uzfe is best but maybe power to $ will win with 308?
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 11:19
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you can always stoke the 308 out to 355 or wateva
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 21:02
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If you like the idea of a 308, might be best of with a VN onwards 304 (they destroked them slightly VK onwards), at least they're injected, and are readily programmable too (delco). After all, when the injected V8 was first released, a VN Berlina wagon held the top speed record at langlang for a little while... (234km/h... damn the older cars must have been slow!). Oh yeah, and if you use a holden V8, DON'T use the matching manual box, they're woeful! (although the T5 IS very light). Instead stick to a W box, and DON'T use a DellHousing(TM) either!
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Mon, 24 February 2003 22:34
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Wont a VN etc 304 cost almost the same as a 1uzfe.
the 2 train of thought i have been having are
308(351-302) cheap easy to find no efi
iuzfe (best quality and efi)
if i look at vn EFI motors then its in the 1uzfe class and the 1uzfe would cost similar but be much better true?
so if i go EFI its 1uzfe, if carby(for cost and ease sake) its what ever engine is cheap and easy to install and sorce.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 25 February 2003 02:05
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will this car be registered or a paddy basher?
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 25 February 2003 04:46
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for a while just a project and if i feel the need i'll rego it. not a daily driver just weekends car club meets etc!
so yeah i'll want it legal and engineered etc
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 25 February 2003 07:04
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then as i said in my 1st post the earliest celica u can legally put a old V8 into is the RA40, no not even a 253 will be allowed into an RA23/28 (NSW laws, i reckon vic roads laws will be the same).
you choose the engine AFTER you check the legalities not before.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Tue, 25 February 2003 11:48
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do whatever tickles your fancy buddy.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Thu, 27 February 2003 11:23
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yeah take robbo for example he is puttting an old ford v8 pushrod motor in his car that we all know we never be legal or roadworthy but he likes the idea so hes doing it, so if your likeminded....
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Thu, 27 February 2003 11:25
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thats me
hey celica i have found another car so in the next month or so the exhaust will be available. Ive decided on keeping my w58, i am gonna run a 5 spd manual with the 302.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Thu, 27 February 2003 22:20
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no, i do it this way guys i think about what i want, if i can do it and afford it etc etc etc get idea of cost and if it can be done, once i decide i want to, i then ask the engineer, or i would be on the phone to him all the time as i change my mind etc.
I havn't commited and are not ready to do it yet so i't not like i'm in to deep dont have the car the engine or anything else for it yet.
I am now planing to use a 1uzfe, and was wanting to "investigate" the options of the RA28. (now want to know about the brakes / rear required for it)
eg a rear end will need to have the same stud pattern as the front yes? and this will mean shortened toyota or skyline??? diff? anyway looks like a huge conversion and very expencive. So i "may" can the idea without troubling the engineer
still in search of a nice project.
(gotta be quick without needing huge mods to engine (eg aftermarket efi))
3sge in corolla
C18DET in celica/corolla (newer than last project 3tgteu)
(RWD as 3sgte is not)
4agze into AE82 (not that quick tho but easy and cheap)
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Brisbane
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December 2002
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Fri, 28 February 2003 07:23
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good stuff..theres no substitute for cubic inches.
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Fri, 28 February 2003 23:31
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For those interested, this is what 1 1UZ install looks like...a much nicer looking conversion than a push-rod V8 IMHO
The quick people will notice that this looks similar to my avatar...owing to the fact that it is my car, picured last week. (Ah, the wonders of digital cameras!)
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August 2002
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Re: V8 RA celica
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Sun, 02 March 2003 23:53
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WOW thats one sexy engine! gotta love it, how does the car drive?
lot more room in the cressie than a RA28
maybe i'll get a dang old XF ute (for the work/boat towing) and slap a 1uzfe in here (cheap shell easy to get parts and 9" diff easy to get etc.
mmmmmmmmmmmm 1uzfe
P.S what the conversion cost?
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