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loki boyracer
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icon4.gif  hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Fri, 28 October 2005 09:24 Go to next message
My best friend doesn't post here nor the other toyota forum because when he put his idea to the other members, they bagged him out big time:

The Proof

To tell you the truth, I didn't think it would work as well as it did...
What it is is something very special, very unique, and very powerfull.
A 88kw 4AGE block, oversized pistons, longer rods, steel offset crank, port and polished, adjustable cam gears and...

***Webber manifold with twin 45mm Del'orto carburettors***.

Like I said, I didn't think it would feel the way it feels, but I drove it last night, you gently tap the throttle and instantly...vraap... 5000rpm
I shit you not!!! This thing revs soooo quickly its crazy and the power is fenominal!!! It has more power and torque than my old 16v!!!

So for those people who scoff and think carbis are wrong or a waste of time, you have to see this in person, carbis are not wrong, there just a different way of doing things.
John will be competing this weekend in the Drift Nats. Take a look, because this is the first street carbi 4AGE 16v i've ever seen in the country (Not saying there not out there though)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a182/loki_boyracer/000_0292.jpg
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Fri, 28 October 2005 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
There's a couple in melbourne... and they go harder than most efi 16v

sound makes u undress too
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Fri, 28 October 2005 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nice setup.

loki boyracer wrote on Fri, 28 October 2005 19:24

So for those people who scoff and think carbis are wrong or a waste of time, you have to see this in person, carbis are not wrong, there just a different way of doing things.


Has your mate driven one with quad throttle EFI? Your mate wouldn't waste his time with carbs ever again.
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Fri, 28 October 2005 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Fri, 28 October 2005 20:15

Nice setup.

loki boyracer wrote on Fri, 28 October 2005 19:24

So for those people who scoff and think carbis are wrong or a waste of time, you have to see this in person, carbis are not wrong, there just a different way of doing things.


Has your mate driven one with quad throttle EFI? Your mate wouldn't waste his time with carbs ever again.


carbs are a pain to tune correctly every couple of weeks
they do sound the part but no different to the sound of quads
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Sat, 29 October 2005 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carbs is great
but the tuning!! arrrrr

efi does it so much better,,, but the price

that same engine with quads efi and a haltech would make so much more power

but AWESOME! im glad john finally got it done
power to him!
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Sat, 29 October 2005 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i ran a red top with twin 45 webers after running it efi (sirlyndon now owns it).
i gotta say, despite everyone who says different, i thought the carbs were much more responsive, sounded great, better throttle control and ran nicely alll year round. had to deal with heat soak, but hey... as a tradeoff it was pretty good. i kinda enjoy tweaking cars to run percfect though, if you just want to set and forget then carbs arent for you.
also the engineer was quite happy about the conversion, i provided an emission test i did at work and he said that essentially (adr wise) i had a 4ac with a better head and nice carbs and it wasnt a problem.
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Sat, 29 October 2005 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would use those carbs, but have the fuel injected via EFI.
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Sat, 29 October 2005 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
matt. billzilla did exactly that
dead carbs for thrittles and EFi infection

works well enough and cheap too
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Mon, 31 October 2005 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi All.
my 4AG runs on both weber45 carbs and EFI Very Happy so I guess you can register it with EFI in Australia. My car passed smog inspection in carb'd mode in New Jersey - I just leaned it out and added some gas line antifreeze - dunno if that helped. Next time I would probably need other additives
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Fri, 04 November 2005 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well, i love seeing this kinda conversion cos im gonna do the same thing to my 4age....ie the carby conversion.

Toyota sprinter with a 4agc Laughing Laughing i cant wait.
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Mon, 07 November 2005 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I had 40mil dells too, tho 32mm chokes were a little small for outright power.
Throttle response was great, but low speed drivability was somewhat lacking. I can recall maybe three or four days out of two years i had them where the balance was absolutely perfect, I think the the moons may have aligned in jupiter Razz

now i have a 4agze afm, throttle response is poo, but it's sooo nice being able to drive below 2000 rpm, oh and the torque.

Video of my car on the dyno when i HAD 2x 40mm dellortos.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~c2888/public/misc/dyn orun.3gp

dyno guy: what do you want me to rev to?
me: take it to EIGHT!

and the crowd held their ears

I sorely miss tunnel runs with that engine.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH


dan

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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Mon, 07 November 2005 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
love the sound of carbi's

keihin FCR's anyone? *swoon*
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Tue, 08 November 2005 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whatever peels your banana really... carbs, EFI whatever does it for you...

as for me i prefer EFI (im sick of tuning carbs, stupid crappy butterflies....)

but i have heard a number of 4AG's with carbs... MY GOD!! THEY ARE SO ANGRY!! they sound so so angry...
4AG's have a deep note but they just seem even deeper and more pronounced, not sure about the responsivness but i'm sure motor with 4 carbs/throttles hanging off the side/top will be razor sharp ...
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Thu, 10 November 2005 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I love it! it looks ssmikk aswell Cool

Yep paying out stuff happens on all forums,to some degree some people need to toughen up and other times some people just have to stop being fat tryhard loosers whith a chip on their shoulder cause they spent all their prime years bulding cars in their garage alone instead of hanging with friends and pumpin chicks..

I think those people have made it clear who they are in this thread Wink

Get a vid up mate!!!
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Fri, 11 November 2005 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Back to the point - crap removed. If anyone wants to start a Carbs vs. EFI discussion thread in Tech & Conversions then go for it. I'm sick of seeing people's Members Rides clogged up with garbage.
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Re: hachiroku4agetwincan16v... CARBI!!! Sat, 12 November 2005 03:34 Go to previous message
lucid RULES! Heart
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