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Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 00:43
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I know there is a whole bunch of people out there that have coilovers, I'm wondering if you guys have any advices on sets? I'm after ones that are made out of steel.
I'm particularly looking at whiteline sleeves, as I added them up they seemed pretty cheap.
I've read that Noltec is quite good, but I've been quoted 350-ish from them. The bloke that worked there gave me a discount and marked it to 270 before gst but I'm not sure whether it's still valid or not.
There is also Koni which I have read almost nothing about. Does anyone on here have them? There's a few of them me thinks, such as the one on importbitz.com and this one: http://www.kingmotorsports.com/product.asp?detail= 2559
I'm hoping there's alot of people who used the three I just mentioned, if so I'd like to hear from you. I'm confused on which one to get, the price ranges are starting to get me think. BLAH!
And what am I planning to do with them? I'm planning on cutting 40mm off my strut, use a 21mm spacer and use Tokico HTS shocks on (I don't even know yet!) springs.
Thanks guys!
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June 2005
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 06:51
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Hi xolent,
There is plenty of options out there and long discussions about shortening struts and adding RCA spacers.
My advice:
Measure the strut tube diameter both in metric and imperial. You then can buy the sleeve to suit. There are metric inside diameters and imperial inside diameters. If you measure 2.00 inch then buy a 2.00 inch id sleeve.
Cut only enough out of the tube to suit the shock of choice if you have to. Then use the fact that the ride height will be adjustable to get the lower control arm parallel to the ground. Should not need to use an RCA.
If you use a shorter shock body and doing above will give you good suspension bump and rebound travel. Otherwise you are likely to run on the bump stops when lowered to the height of choice.
Make sure each sleeve has two lock nuts, a spring seat and a top hat to suit. The sleeve maker will advise what id spring to use.
Regards
Rodger
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June 2005
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 06:56
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Any of the brands are good to use, go with best price and perhaps do a deal to include springs.
I think my front springs are around 320lb.
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Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 09:16
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If it helps, I've got the Koni sleeves, they were about $250 - $280 for sleeves, hats, seats and locking nuts. They work. They're really not that complex, dude, I'm sure Whiteline ones work and Noltec ones work and etc.
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Adelaide
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February 2005
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 10:03
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Yeah ive got the koni's, they are as good as any but cheapest, just dont get aluminium shite sleeved ones and you'll be fine.
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I supported Toymods
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June 2002
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 11:46
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from what i can tell, koni and noltec ones are the same with one important exception
koni ones are anodised orange
noltec ones are anodised blue.
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 12:46
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lol thanks guys!
I thought noltec ones were that gold/greeny colour?
from importbitz, the sleeves seem to be silver coloured? Blah i'm not good with colours
teh KoNi'Z
Anyways, I made an enquiree to whiteline in which they replied:
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Hi John,
We do sell coil-over threaded sleeves and hardware. For a 2 inch strut,
you have a choice of 63mm and 65mm spring.
KFH1025 Threaded sleeve, 2" strut - $34.90
KFH2025 Spring seat, 63mm ID - $33.90
KFH2026 Spring seat, 65mm ID - $28.60
KFH3025 Lock ring - $25.80
KFH4015 Top spring seat, 63mm ID - $44.70
KFH4020 Top spring seat, 65mm ID - $41.10
KFH0010 C spanner - $22.70
Above prices are per piece, including GST, excluding freight.
Threaded sleeved and spanner are made from steel, all other components
are made from aluminium and are anodised.
Hope that this helps.
Regards,
Wojtek Rogulski
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So it's roughly 305-ish incl gst
I can run a 63/65 mm spring, what's the common size?
Shit I do not know.
And I've read some threads on springs, I've read Eibach are good coilover springs, but for the price they're worth, I might as well look for an alternative. If ANYONE out there, that has the set up that I'm planning to set, what spring did you go for and why?
Thanks for the reply guys. Yeh I knew how they worked and so on, I just wanted to see what were better. They're the same shit, really, but I just wanted some oppinions.
While I'm at it, for everyone that welded their own sleeves, did you guys just made continious welds along the bottom of the sleeve or made "spot" welds on them (i hope i'm using the right terminology). As I imagined (with my uber super first year engineering knowledge) they would be under some amount of stress. So if I did make continuous weld, and it cracks then the whole weld will crack right?
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October 2004
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Tue, 01 November 2005 14:23
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running cusco cambertops are also in mind. what's the business of helper springs and upper hats (like the one t3 sells?)?
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Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Canberra
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June 2005
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October 2004
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Sun, 06 November 2005 11:19
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Thanks for the reply guys.
What are a more common ID of springs? 63 or 65? Or are they basically the same?
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June 2005
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Mon, 07 November 2005 02:02
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Some use the 65mm, some use the 63mm probably 50/50. Both do the same job. Make sure you get springs that match the seats, that is all. May find the smaller is better priced.
Regards
Rodger
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Sunshine Coast
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July 2004
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Re: Threaded sleeves
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Mon, 07 November 2005 06:14
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Anyone know how much a pair of 8kg 63mm springs would cost? Im up for coil overs too. Not fussy on brand either.
Wes
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