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I supported Toymods
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Wed, 16 November 2005 09:48
 
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to what?
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Sydney
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Wed, 16 November 2005 09:57
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To his ass so he can make the most of turbulent airflow down there 
I assume he means a 16v 4ag so look up T3. They're available off the shelf.
Eddie.
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Wed, 16 November 2005 10:11
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what do you mean T3
isn't a T3 a turbo?
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Wed, 16 November 2005 10:40
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Yeah it is as well but i was refering to Techno Toy Tuning.
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Wed, 16 November 2005 11:11
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technotoytuning.com
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Wed, 16 November 2005 13:17
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i recv'd mine today
sooo fuckin hot
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Melburn!
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June 2005
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Wed, 16 November 2005 21:09
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Anybody know if anyone does them for the 3sge?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Thu, 17 November 2005 07:44
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yes
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Thu, 17 November 2005 12:36
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Care to elaborate?
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Newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Thu, 17 November 2005 18:02
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I had a look at the site and it does not look like they sell one for 3sge
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Fri, 18 November 2005 01:50
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no t3 do not sell one. pretyt mech old corollas/starlet stuff only from those fellas.
i haven't seen any 3sg adaptor plates through my searches, maybe try getting one fabricated and organise a group buy for them? 
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Fri, 18 November 2005 02:19
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Trd make them
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Fri, 18 November 2005 07:02
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And this is an easy one... where do you get TRD products from?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Fri, 18 November 2005 07:05
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TRD
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Fri, 18 November 2005 09:24
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^^^^
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Fri, 18 November 2005 13:36
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mat could you take some closer pictures of your setup for us?
can you get a decent vacumn reading from that setup?
cheers mate!
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Fri, 18 November 2005 20:05
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internal pics of the adaptor would be appreciated  how nice are the transitions?
oh and btw, what do quad throttle go for these days... in oz....
3000-5000 yen seems cheap to me?
as for MAP signal, a restrictor int he line from the quads, combined with a fuel filter sized cavity (i used a carby fuel filter ) will work wonders on the MAP signal, and doesn't slow it down enough to notice.. think of it as a resistor and capacitor for air....
when the MS guys did testing, they had about 8 or 10 metres of vac line between car and ECU and it made buggerall difference (ie, in a good way)..
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sat, 19 November 2005 00:50
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megasquirt?
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sat, 19 November 2005 01:29
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ahh i meant how much do the actual quad throtles go for.. i was thinking of picking a few up
as for the restrictor thing... ppl do it different ways..
the idea of the restrictor is to reduce the amount of air that is pulled during each "suck", and also reduce the backflow when the cylinder is not sucking.. it basically just reduces the amplitude of vacuum change.
a very easy way to make a restrictor is to get MIG welding tips... ppl use maybe 0.8 to 1.2mm tips (ie hole size) and the outside is maybe.. 4-5mm diameter? so it can be slipped inline with nirmal vacuum tube 
some people run a restrictor between each runner and the chamber. others connect all the ports together and then put the restrictor after the join, so there is only a single restrictor.... i don't know which is best.
some peple also run the restrictor _after_ the chamber...
for me i just had high overlap cam, and the take off point was on the plenum (no quads) so i didn't have a choice.. i just ran 1.2mm restrictor and a Ryco carby fuel filter (which got strange looks as it was incabin )
so basically... you can experiment.. it helps to have realtime datalogging capability on your ECU so you can see changes in the MAP quality. a pack of MIG welding "contact tips" is like $5 for 5 or something, bloody cheap... get maybe 0.8 or 0.9 as a start.. you can always cut them in half and drill out to larger size later...
at first try with lines connected and no chamber...
then with chamber
then with restrictor before chamber
then with restrictor in each line before joining
you can graph what is likely to happen.... each suck is a negative pulse that is kinda sinusoidal for as long as i lasts (which at idle is basically the time the piston is going down, ie 180 crank degrees, or 1/4 of engine cycle)
yar, Megasquirt.. a wealth of EFI info for anyone who wants to learn
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sat, 19 November 2005 01:32
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oh, and what does a set of quads weigh... for postage...
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sat, 19 November 2005 02:30
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old corrolas, a set of quads usually goes for about 350 bucks.
if you feel like picking up a set (or other bits) in teh japans, PM me.
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sat, 19 November 2005 05:40
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| shinybluesteel wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 13:30 |
old corrolas, a set of quads usually goes for about 350 bucks.
if you feel like picking up a set (or other bits) in teh japans, PM me.
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shit eh.... i doubt anyone on toymods would pay that much tho
have a quick squiz at:
http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/809498 38
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http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n293 42030
i was just looking for some for the screwed project
how much do they weigh? postage aint cheap 
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sat, 19 November 2005 06:48
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The actual throttles are about 1-1.5kg, not much at all. Just ditch the manifold and plenum over in Japan. Ill take a pic of the runners on the T3 units before and after i shape them today too.
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sat, 19 November 2005 07:03
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| takai wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 17:48 |
The actual throttles are about 1-1.5kg, not much at all. Just ditch the manifold and plenum over in Japan. Ill take a pic of the runners on the T3 units before and after i shape them today too.
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ahh sweet  2-3kg will be well under a hundred bucks shipping...
thanks Takai, looking forward to pics.
heh heh, i can't imagine the stock plenum will take that much boost.. or would it??
hmmmmmmmmm
so what should i make sure i get? ie any specific linkages, AE101, AE111???
apologies for threadjack i'd love to see a set of these on a K mmotor tho
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sun, 20 November 2005 01:57
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visionr.com.au
Kai Power Japan 4 throttle connection kit with 70mm funnels for ae8616v - $1350 delivered
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sun, 20 November 2005 18:29
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| shinybluesteel wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 13:30 |
old corrolas, a set of quads usually goes for about 350 bucks.
if you feel like picking up a set (or other bits) in teh japans, PM me.
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a complete 20v motor, is about $900??
quads cost 1/3 of the engine??
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Sun, 20 November 2005 21:48
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yeah.. people ask way too much for them...
i got mine for $190
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Mon, 21 November 2005 00:39
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bah, not even worth the effort of posting then
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Mon, 21 November 2005 01:09
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| takai wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 17:48 |
...after i shape them today too.
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are you fitting them to bigporthead or ae111 throttles or something?
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Adelaide
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Mon, 21 November 2005 01:52
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Nope, fitting to smallport as usual.
Just the hard edges in the plenum are crap, really need going over with a die grinder, but i have no compressed air atm and the dremel doesnt have a collet large enough.
Ive just cleaned up the edges for now, but will really take to it with the die grinder when i next take them off.
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Mon, 21 November 2005 06:25
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yeah, there is quite a large ridge inside the runners i was concerned about
i might have to smooth mine out also... :s bugger
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brisvegas
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Mon, 21 November 2005 12:28
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i found the T3 manifold looked quite sexy, and all i did was smooth with some sand paper the tapped thread where it burred into the port..i also had to open up the face of the port on the head to make sure that it didn't have a step-in, the T3 manifold is a little bigger than the standard smallport..port.. i dunno how well it will idle..no body seemed to awnser when i asked the question on a few seperate occasions, so i thought fuck it, i'll just do it and find out the hard way..
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Mon, 21 November 2005 21:20
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Idles quite well.... with 308* cams. 
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Re: Quad throttle body adapter plate
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Mon, 21 November 2005 21:51
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what setup do you run takai?
ecu?
an intake manifold?
sensors?
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