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RO11LR
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TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 03:27 Go to next message
Hey all , i've seen some info on the net about removing the TVIS
valves from tha plate between manifolds , does anybody recommend doing this or should i not touch these at all , any ideas ?
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you want to get rid of all that pesky bottom end torque, go for it.
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeh, those bottom end torque thingies are a nuisance Evil or Very Mad
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HA HA , yeah everyones a funny guy !!! Rolling Eyes
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wtf is a jabber? a punch line?
Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
leave it unless u got turbo or something?
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks for the advice peoples
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RO11LR wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 15:25

HA HA , yeah everyones a funny guy !!! Rolling Eyes


leave it on unlss you HAVE A REASON for taking it off Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes simple Wink
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Seriously, the sharp cutoff after the T-VIS plate causes far more restriction than the butterflys would.

If you were serious about it, you'd need to remove the butterflys and the shaft, mount the plate against the manifold, then grab a die grinder and smooth the exit (you'll probably have to go into the manifold to get it right). Once you've done this, you would need to weld up the holes in the plate.

This would flow better than the factory setup, but will still probably produce less power below about 6000 or so.

It would be an interesting experiment, but, it would take a lot of work....

[Updated on: Wed, 16 November 2005 04:49]

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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey guys

just woundering, can u fit a tvis system on a small port 4age, wats the advantages and disadvantages if possible?
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
All this shit has been covered about 50 billion times.....if you search for "tvis 4age" you will get 194 pages of hits.....

ffs ppl search!!!
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Wed, 16 November 2005 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if its all so boring to you silverghost , how come you read it and took all that time write about it
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Thu, 17 November 2005 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
We need that Toymods wiki thing.

Bill Sherwood said something about TVIS.

http://www.billzilla.org/4agmods.htm

If you have cams larger than 260 deg, he sais that you'll see a benifit from removing TVIS. That's for around a 150-160hp or 111-119kw engine.

Keep in mind that TVIS is nothing like a turbo. You can't just bolt it on and get more power. N/A engines are all about balance to get the highest revs and best torque across your power band. The 100kw 4A-GE has much smaller ports than the TVIS 'bigport' engines. The reason the bigport has the tvis is to create more velocity into the chamber, creating better torque low end. The 100kw 4A-GE does this automaticaly by having smaller port sizes. So no, putting TVIS on your 100kw 4A-GE will not see any advantages at all, and will cost you a lot and end up losing you power.
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Thu, 17 November 2005 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i never said its boring...but some idiot taking up space in tech & conv. and taking up other peoples time when a 30 second search would have saved everyone time and effort and would have answered all your questions....its frustrating for people who have answered the same shit over and over again....
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Thu, 17 November 2005 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you wasted a good 10 mins on this thread so far , your time must be so "important"
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Thu, 17 November 2005 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
definitely more important than you.....

you keep reaching for the low hangin fruit my friend and see how ur life turns out....
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Thu, 17 November 2005 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thankyou shraka , your a well informed person , at least you don't go round wasting your time replying on threads without actually posting any info , hey silverghost dosen't that piss you off
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Thu, 17 November 2005 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wasn't even interested in finding any information about removal of tvis, but here i am reading a thread cos someones asked a question that has already been answered. And I think I have benefitted from hearing everyones opinion on something I already had my own about.

Good on you for starting a new thread and I hope your questions (and others) have been answered. and what was that about the low hanging fruit? isn't slagging a thread cos it's been covered a bit like that?

[Updated on: Thu, 17 November 2005 06:43]

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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Sun, 20 November 2005 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SilverGhost wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 12:11

....its frustrating for people who have answered the same shit over and over again....

i concur Razz
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Sun, 20 November 2005 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
devolutio wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:43

I wasn't even interested in finding any information about removal of tvis, but here i am reading a thread cos someones asked a question that has already been answered. And I think I have benefitted from hearing everyones opinion on something I already had my own about.

Good on you for starting a new thread and I hope your questions (and others) have been answered. and what was that about the low hanging fruit? isn't slagging a thread cos it's been covered a bit like that?


if you search on toymods using the notoriously shit search engine...

you STILL get 14 pages of threads....

actually.. 823 threads on toymods that mention TVIS from the toymods search engine...

AND YOU COULDN'T FIND ONE fuggen WHOOOOSH!!!!!!!
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Sun, 20 November 2005 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
why would i be bothered to go search when i could start up another thread and get the info i wanted anyway , get over it people your not that important !!!!!!!!
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Sun, 20 November 2005 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oldcorollas wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 05:37

devolutio wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:43

I wasn't even interested in finding any information about removal of tvis, but here i am reading a thread cos someones asked a question that has already been answered. And I think I have benefitted from hearing everyones opinion on something I already had my own about.

Good on you for starting a new thread and I hope your questions (and others) have been answered. and what was that about the low hanging fruit? isn't slagging a thread cos it's been covered a bit like that?


if you search on toymods using the notoriously shit search engine...

you STILL get 14 pages of threads....

actually.. 823 threads on toymods that mention TVIS from the toymods search engine...

AND YOU COULDN'T FIND ONE fuggen WHOOOOSH!!!!!!!


did i say i couldn't find one? read my post before you quote it Rolling Eyes
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Re: TVIS ON 4AGE Mon, 21 November 2005 00:22 Go to previous message
RO11LR wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 08:34

why would i be bothered to go search when i could start up another thread and get the info i wanted anyway , get over it people your not that important !!!!!!!!




you are the weakest link.


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