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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sat, 20 November 2004 11:00
 
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I havn't had any dramas since fitting the machined type. Apparently you can buy steel ones too, but I havn't seen them.
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Sydney
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sat, 20 November 2004 15:58
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wow, that means mine's due to crack soon... 
but has anyone looked into tapping in the filter supply line yet?
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Sun, 21 November 2004 07:03
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So how much did your pipings for the intercooler cost? I may have to look into that very soon... I've found a hole in my intercooler, and after I've fixed the supporting bracket for the bonnet latch, the 1G cooler won't go back in place! 
but the good thing is, after fixing the bracket and few adjustments, my bonnets lines up perfectly like it just came out of the factory, and when I pull the bonnet release, it makes a nice click and the bonnet pops up! I haven't seen that happen for years... D
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Sun, 21 November 2004 07:34
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| 86tt wrote on Sun, 21 November 2004 18:03 |
but the good thing is, after fixing the bracket and few adjustments, my bonnets lines up perfectly like it just came out of the factory, and when I pull the bonnet release, it makes a nice click and the bonnet pops up! I haven't seen that happen for years... D
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SAME!!! haha, actually, after the thieves stole my car, something happened with the grille and latches that they kinda fixed it up and it makes a solid CLUNK!! when i pull the latch....
oh - have you got a limo in that corona diff? is it custom fabricated?
| fatmr2 wrote on Sat, 20 November 2004 07:50 |
Thats what i did with mine and it turned out nice and neat. I should get a pic and post it up?
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yes please!!!
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 21 November 2004 09:19
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Cooler plumbing costs vary greatly depending on your setup, and how many bends are incorporated into the pipework. Budget around $250 per pipe in aluminium (please dont start another argument here about intercooler materials guys, i'm happy with mine  ) for something like my car, running down through the inner guards. Plus silicone bends/reducers were another $230 on top of that 
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Sun, 21 November 2004 11:59
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| ae86slaver wrote on Sun, 21 November 2004 18:34 |
SAME!!! haha, actually, after the thieves stole my car, something happened with the grille and latches that they kinda fixed it up and it makes a solid CLUNK!! when i pull the latch....
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So ur fairly happy with what the theives done to your car?
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oh - have you got a limo in that corona diff? is it custom fabricated?
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What's a limo? LSD?
I think the old brackets were cut off with new ones welded on..
TE72_Turbo: So that's going to cost $1k including the intercooler?  Out of my budget at the moment...
I've actually went to cut up the pipings I had and got the correct angles and relocated my intercooler, I needed a 135 degree bend, but I've only got a pipe with around 160 degree (small bend) and forced the pipings to fit, so I'll see how long that will last before things starts cracking... and filled up the small hole in the intercooler with body filler, and see how long that will hold up the pressure!
I haven't tested it yet, coz today I've checked my oil and it's a bit low, I think I'm losing engine oil from the T bracket where the oil sender is so I'll have to fix that pretty soon, and I may want tap into the filter line, has anyone found any problems by doing that yet?
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Tue, 23 November 2004 09:40
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| 86tt wrote on Sun, 21 November 2004 22:59 |
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oh - have you got a limo in that corona diff? is it custom fabricated?
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What's a limo? LSD?
I think the old brackets were cut off with new ones welded on..
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yeah does it have an LSD?
hahaa bodyfiller!!! that stuff works wonders on anything aye 
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Tue, 23 November 2004 12:37
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nah, no lsd yet, having trouble locating it! only the japanese coronas TT142 have lsd and I've heard the lsd from MA60 & MA71 will fit, but not sure yet, time is another factor, as well as money!
but yeah, I'm due to test the car out tomorrow and see if the body filler works! I've just connected the remote filter today and the big filter won't clear the thermo fans! so looks like I have to move the mount a bit tomorrow, but hey! The body fillers can be very strong!
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 23 November 2004 13:07
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On the oil lines, I just did the ones on my car last week, if someone likes to drop past my place with a camera (I don't have one right now..) I can post up some pics for all.
I've moved the oil filter 3 times now, for various reasons, and settled with it mounted on the exhaust side of the engine, down low, nice and easy to get at, but sitting slightly higher than the bottom of the sump. I've got a cooler up front, and take the oil for the turbo from the filter, as there's no room near the gauge sender, and see no reason to use a clumsy T piece anyway.
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Sydney
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August 2004
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February 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 23 November 2004 22:19
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pics pics pics!!
so u guys have in theory T'ed off the filter oil lines to supply oil for the turbo?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Wed, 24 November 2004 11:50
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So you have an F series corona diff is it?
I have an F series MX13 (MK2) corona diff in my AE71, fitted with a toyota 2 pinion LSD, presumably from an RA45GT. I was lucky enough to find it hanging on the wall of my local diff shop The guy didn't know what it had come from, but it was rebuilt with new clutch packs.
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Wed, 24 November 2004 22:27
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yeah, in theory it should be a F series diff...
but based on this website, a Corona 14# can be a T series, as well as an E series but it doesn't mention it as a F series? so I'm pretty confused...
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/stepho/di ff.htm
so you just went and got the LSD without knowing if it will fit?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Thu, 25 November 2004 02:49
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so you just went and got the LSD without knowing if it will fit?
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Nah, we measured it up next to a standard F series hemisphere
Have you had the axles/centre out of your diff? How many splines were there on the axles?
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Thu, 25 November 2004 13:08
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I haven't had it taken out yet, in theory it should be 23 I think, I'll need to take it apart soon if I have time to find a replacement diff center/gear sets, coz it's make clunk noises esp when raining, and I noticed it gotten worst today even though it wasn't raining, why u ask?
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Fri, 26 November 2004 08:43
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Just trying to work out if it actually is an F series. They should be 27 spline.
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Fri, 26 November 2004 10:29
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oh, is yours 27 spline? Coz I never took them apart yet...
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Fri, 26 November 2004 13:18
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Yep. 27 spline, 28.1mm diameter
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Fri, 26 November 2004 14:06
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oh, I must have got some information wrong then, coz I typed this in my notepad somewhere...
ST141/RT141? Corona Diff
23 Spline
BW68/70?
23 must be the ae86 original spline?
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Canberra
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Sat, 27 November 2004 00:35
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So you've got a borg warner diff from a corona then?
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo
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Sat, 27 November 2004 03:03
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could be, is there more than 1 type of corona avante diff?
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February 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 06:08
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bumpity....need to keep the 4AGTE discussion alive!
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Turramurra, Sydney.
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 06:48
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So, how many 4AGTEs are coming to the drags on the 16th?
It'd be good to see a few others there & it would allow everyone to compare notes & setups.
It'd also be a good chance to compare timeslips!
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Location:
Hornsby, N.S.W
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September 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 06:56
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i could well be there if the new ecu is here by then!!! look out PIMP MOBILE, the APPRENTICE is coming Through!!!
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February 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 10:06
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i wish i could have mine ready 
all parts sitting on my bedroom floor awaiting the drop in 
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 10:09
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I'll be there 
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July 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 10:54
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pimp boy will be there!! i'm even going to go and get a spare diff centre JUST IN CASE.
i think i probably have the most povo 4agte out there. 10psi, shagged as a $2 whore stock motor, emanage piggback on AE92 map gze ecu and RB25det turbo.
It still goes well though. If i didnt have 2 other cars there is a few things i would be doing to it right now, but alas she must be sold.
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 12:28
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i'll be passing through sydney in the feral, but unfortunatly a few weeks late for the meet you guys are having.
hope you all have a great time thrashing your 4agte's and dont break anything.
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2004
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Tue, 01 February 2005 23:24
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Ok, little update on how my 4agte build is going...
I've collected pretty much all the major parts I need. The list so far is:
series II 4agze (pretty bare atm, all stripped but I think I'm going to leave the engine itself intact and not touch the internals, does anyone strongly recommend otherwise?)
rb20 turbo (also planning to leave intact)
450x300x76mm intercooler
w58 gearbox (i think this is it, i don't know how to tell for certain, this is what i was told it was)
blacktop 20v flywheel
front wheel drive 100kw manifold (yet to be shut and cut)
jap-spec 4age starter motor
bosch 070 fuel pump (vl turbo)
ea falcon fuel pump (throttle body model)
hks ssqv blow off valve (rice!)
a'pexi black face boost gauge (sort off rice!)
And this is what I need:
r31 skyline borg warner lsd rear end (hopefully buying off a forum member as I type)
custom bellhousing (paid for, coming from overseas)
clutch (not too sure what I'll use yet - probably just a daiken single plate 5-puck design)
BELLHOUSING BOLTS
CLUTCH FORK
Once the bellhousing arrives and I find some bolts to install the engine, bellhousing and gearbox in my dummy car, along with the starter, it can be sent off to get the turbo manifold and exhaust fabricated.
Wish me luck, part hunting is not as fun as I thought...
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Wed, 02 February 2005 15:04
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beware: the daiken/exedy/pbr pressure plates do not have sufficient clamp, even with a button clutch plate, to hold down over 150kw at the wheels
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Wed, 02 February 2005 15:12
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Is anyone else running a td05h? Mine is quite on the lagggy side, and im not sure if it is my setup or just the size of the turbo.
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Brisbane
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May 2004
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Wed, 02 February 2005 23:57
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| TE72_Turbo wrote on Thu, 03 February 2005 01:04 |
beware: the daiken/exedy/pbr pressure plates do not have sufficient clamp, even with a button clutch plate, to hold down over 150kw at the wheels
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That's what I've heard, what alternatives/solutions are there?
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May 2002
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 06 February 2005 12:23
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| BigWorm wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 17:48 |
So, how many 4AGTEs are coming to the drags on the 16th?
It'd be good to see a few others there & it would allow everyone to compare notes & setups.
It'd also be a good chance to compare timeslips!
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I will be there, unfortunatly without the bigger exhaust needed to run more boost
and my diffs making noises so that will probably blow on hte night
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 07:49
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What engine oils are you guys using ?
I using mobil 1 5w50 its sucks, noisey as lifters
im trying Motul Turbolight 10w40 tomorrow and seeing if that helps
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 08:05
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im not running a 4agte but in my gze i run fuchs 10w30 and seems to like it.
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 08:52
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Penrite HPR15 does the job for my 4agte. i would prefer to use a thinner oil, (HPR10 probably) but my turbo is a bit used and abused.
used to run HPR5 in the 4agze.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 11:54
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RollaGTi: are your lifters noisy when cold, hot, or both?
Don't worry about issues at the track on the night, just go to have fun  I'm just gonna pretend that my car's problems don't exist on the night (except for the 6500rpm rev limit), and go for gold!
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 14:12
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The lifters are always noisy but only since the Mobil 1 has gone in and been used a little (2000ks) so im trying out the Motul Turbolight 10w40 tomorrow and will see how i go
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 07 February 2005 15:50
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I use hpr15 in mine too, no problems.
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Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 03 July 2005 11:51
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| fatmr2 wrote on Sat, 20 November 2004 07:50 |
Your not supossed to put the t piece in the block? Everyone knows that it will crack. Too much wieght hanging off it. The idea is to come off the block with one line and then mount the t piece somewhere else.
Thats what i did with mine and it turned out nice and neat. I should get a pic and post it up?
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Bumpity bump bump.
Yes that pic would be very handy
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 03 July 2005 12:35
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not my set-up, but this is basicaly what i did (i mounted my tee peice and oil pressure sender to the side under the fan).
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Batemans Bay, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sat, 26 November 2005 13:12
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digging up an old post here.......... just read thru it all...... got me so keen for my planed GTE... in time. 
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 27 November 2005 00:49
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into it dude, it' not that hard.
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Batemans Bay, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 27 November 2005 02:04
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when the money allows its done... thats all it comes down to... 
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Location:
nsw
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May 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 27 November 2005 03:43
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ROLLA GTI:
i have also tried mobil 1 5w50 and found it made my engine heaps noisy as well. i guess it is too thin. i have tried the motul and it was so much better.
Also the new nulon oil is awesome
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Sun, 27 November 2005 13:02
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and how many k's has your engine have?
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nsw
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May 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 28 November 2005 01:37
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My engine had 65,000km on the clock.
I have now gone turbo and decided to rebuild just so i know its a fresh motor.
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sydney
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November 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 28 November 2005 05:38
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That thing still not finished tim?
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 28 November 2005 06:19
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guys... you have to remember that 4A's are an 80's series engine, designed in the late 70s to early 80s with technologies of the times and thus a 4age really doesnt have the tolerances of your modern day 1UZ-FE or similar..... you just have to use a thicker oil!!
I've always run Gulf Western Proteca 15W-50 in any 4ag** i've touched..... or something thicker
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nsw
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May 2003
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Re: Who has a 4agte?
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Mon, 28 November 2005 11:45
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yeh i agree witzl, the engine was designed to run an "SG" or so oil in its time, the newer oils have additives in them suited for newer cars and can cause problems in older cars.
I sell oils every day, but was told by a "Performance shop" to run mobil 1, and i hated it!
FATMR2:
Yeh still not finnished, i have been spending all my free time on FLYNSX, installing AV for him. I'll be putting in the hard yards on mine shortly, and be proud that some of your parts are in it!
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