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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Wed, 30 November 2005 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dam stright, he is just another drug smuggler... infact i want 500kb of my bandwidth back for having to post a replys
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Wed, 30 November 2005 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Malicia wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 22:23

Tell me who are the SCUM of society?




Stick your moral crusade up your arse dickhead.


This clown committed a crime in a country that uses capital punishment. He knew that before he started. You nor anyone else will change that with your whining and whinging.
Let the cunt swing. I hope they swing any other westerner that is stupid enough to do it. All they are doing is feeding the scurge in this country that is heroin addiction. The less of them the better.




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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Wed, 30 November 2005 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Say all you like about the 25,000 hits it would have caused, but we are talking about what DID actually happen.


So if they didn't have their attitude toward a criminal offence that DID HAPPEN, what the fuck do you think would happen?

Drugs fed to junkies in wherever. Junkie fed on heroin breaks into your car and rips off fully hektik dorifto subz and you'll post crying about it.

Get a six foot mirror, some viagra eyedrops and take a good hard look at yourself.

Not that it'll probably make a difference. And for the record I too have never taken or even tried any illegal drugs but I've straightened out a few others who have. In fact ask people about the shit I give smokers let alone junkies.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Wed, 30 November 2005 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I feel sorry for his mum and sisters. They are probably going to feel more pain from is death then himself dying. Its like knowing that something bad is going to happen and there’s nothing you can do about it.

It saddens me that people can be this cold, and I though animals only existed in zoo's.

Well I hope that people who judge him will be judged.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Wed, 30 November 2005 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WEll im not sure about the excutution, but as for the minute of sclicence what a load of crap.

I will pay 1 minute of sclience of our aussie diggers that have died for our country. To take a minute of sclience for 1 person that has comitted a crime is so desrespectiful.

This guy has comitted a crime and has to pay for it. Thats the way it is. He knew what what he was doing and the consquences and now he is being forced with them. In my opinoin he doesent diserve and sympathy whatsoever.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Wed, 30 November 2005 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no_tofu_speed wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 17:20

But though it is their right I do think it is a bit rude that so many high officials formone walk of life or another have requested leniency and they have told them to get stuffed.... I guess mainly because they want to put on a lil show to scare others.

Actually it's not rude at all. Firstly I can't stress enough but this is not a new trend that emerged in the last couple of weeks. It's been this way for a long time. He knew the consequences and he did it.
Secondly, what one of the officials (think it might've been the president/pm said was 'How are we supposed to face our own people who we have executed in the past if we do not spare them and instead spare the life of a foreigner'. It's true. What is the PM/President of Singapore supposed to do? Is he supposed to break the rules? Is he supposed to break the rules for a drug trafficker? Is he supposed to break the rules for a foreign drug trafficker?

no_tofu_speed wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 17:20


But I do think it is screwed that Indonesia wants to give foreigners life sentences or death for drugs, small or large quantities. But domestic terrorists especially the ring leader/activist they give a slap on the wrist.



Well Michelle Leslie got a few months for her small quantity so that's not a life sentence and from memory Amrosi is going to get either life or the death penalty. That's hardly a slap on the wrist.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Wed, 30 November 2005 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I just can't wait for it to be over so finally the media stops putting his face on the front page and calling it 'news' - and then they can go talk some other shit up.

I really, truly, couldn't give a crap about him. For sure if it were someone i knew, i'd be extremely disappointed, angry, fearful and sad to see them go, but i don't think i'd be protesting about it. Some things *have* to be accepted in life, and one of those things is the law, and you have to accept the risks involved when you bend the laws. It's up to his family and friends to deal and grieve with this situation.... it's (edit) not (/edit) up to the whole country to do so.

I think that any form of punishment is kinda stupid (capital, corporal or just plain old incarceration) because it's all just a shitty band-aid solution. All the jail, maiming and killing hasn't stopped more criminals from filling the void, and it's about time better and more future-proof solutions were found.

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think that any form of punishment is kinda stupid (capital, corporal or just plain old incarceration) because it's all just a shitty band-aid solution. All the jail, maiming and killing hasn't stopped more criminals from filling the void, and it's about time better and more future-proof solutions were found


i agree with RWDboy,

i see it as being like training a dog. if all you ever do is hit the dog when it does something wrong, its just going to turn nasty. in order to train a well behaved dog you need to also reward it when it is good, and that is the part that is missing when it comes to preventing crime.

its the same on the roads. fining people for speeding doesnt make them better drivers, it just makes them hate the rta/cops.

sorry for getting a little OT towards the end there.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Wed, 30 November 2005 18:58

This guy tried to traffic approximately 400 grams of heroin. An average heroin dose for an average user is approximately 20 mg. That equates to roughly 20000 doses. This guy could have ruined 20000 lives, not counting relatives or victims of crime.

Die drug smuggling scum. Good riddance and get fucked. I won't shed a tear or lose a second's sleep.


DIE SCHAPELLE CORBY you evil drug smuggling bitch. why'd didnt she get the firing squad and why has noone complained that she didnt Mad Mad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
seriously though death shouldnt be a penalty.
Hi_Ace... do you believe the shit you type Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
you would encourge someone to kill one of your family members for a crime Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
iam not going to protest or anything coz its a waste of time but i still thinks its fucked up

daniel

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mynameisrodney wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 14:14

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I think that any form of punishment is kinda stupid (capital, corporal or just plain old incarceration) because it's all just a shitty band-aid solution. All the jail, maiming and killing hasn't stopped more criminals from filling the void, and it's about time better and more future-proof solutions were found


i agree with RWDboy,

i see it as being like training a dog. if all you ever do is hit the dog when it does something wrong, its just going to turn nasty. in order to train a well behaved dog you need to also reward it when it is good, and that is the part that is missing when it comes to preventing crime.

its the same on the roads. fining people for speeding doesnt make them better drivers, it just makes them hate the rta/cops.

sorry for getting a little OT towards the end there.
chris


how can you compare crime to training a dog?
no, fining speeders doesnt make them better drivers, but it usually slows them down. should we reward people that dont speed? should we reward people who dont smuggle drugs?

i wanna know something, all you guys protesting this, which part specifically do you have a problem with? is it THIS guy getting the death penalty? or is it the death penalty in general?
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
And all of you how who say shit about drug users and junkies fucking shit up... the 2 drugs that cause the most deaths and problems are cigarettes and alcohol.

daniel

EVOSTi... iam against it in general not because of this guy

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Do I smoke no, do I drink rarely Wink so I guess I am free to say what I want then Razz
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Corona RT142 wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 17:09

Do I smoke no, do I drink rarely Wink so I guess I am free to say what I want then Razz

LOL smart ass but do you take drugs...?

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 06:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corona RT142 wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 17:09

Do I smoke no, do I drink rarely Wink so I guess I am free to say what I want then Razz



No, but your naturally stupid.
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Hmmm my uni results and job tend to argue with you there, and no I don't take drugs. Wink
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SR20 trueno wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 17:07

And all of you how who say shit about drug users and junkies fucking shit up... the 2 drugs that cause the most deaths and problems are cigarettes and alcohol.

daniel

EVOSTi... iam against it in general not because of this guy


thats fair enough and i respect your opinion, but why does it take an Aussie to be hung before we care about it? everyones talking about how its wrong and inhumane but no ones complaining about all the others that are get executed every week all around the world.

in regards to cigarettes and alcohol, yes they are the biggest killers of any drug but thats cause they are LEGAL. if the same amount of heroin was used as tobacco/alcohol what do you think would be the bigger problem?

personally I'm more concerned about the number of innocent people being killed around the world each day in places like Iraq and the women being raped and killed in Africa. one man who was trying to profit from the misery of thousands of others doesn't get my sympathy.

*edit spelling Smile

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SR20 trueno wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 17:07

And all of you how who say shit about drug users and junkies fucking shit up... the 2 drugs that cause the most deaths and problems are cigarettes and alcohol.

daniel

EVOSTi... iam against it in general not because of this guy



It doesn’t matter what drugs can cause death, the people that are taking drugs are just much has fault has the people that are selling.
See heroin wont kill you if you don’t take it. Also selling drugs isn't exactly like killing someone or flying a plain to a building.

I have heard of corporate crimes of people getting away with 3 times more than that.

This reminds me a lot of the movie called "blown", even in America you don’t get death for drugs.

If he was not transporting that quantity of drugs, someone else would.

When you really really want something (that is un-ethical)you take risks without thinking of the consequences.

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EVOSTi wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 16:55

how can you compare crime to training a dog?
no, fining speeders doesnt make them better drivers, but it usually slows them down. should we reward people that dont speed? should we reward people who dont smuggle drugs?

i wanna know something, all you guys protesting this, which part specifically do you have a problem with? is it THIS guy getting the death penalty? or is it the death penalty in general?


i think we SHOULD reward good drivers as well as punishing bad ones.
my comparison is valid because even if you dont like to believe, human beings respond to punishments/rewards in much the same ways as animals.

i am now going to make an extemely broad generalisation, which while not always true, still holds a lot of the time.

take 3 kids

kid 1:
punished when bad +
not rewarded when good =
adult who is generally angry/disrespectful toards authority figures.

kid 2:
not punished when bad +
rewarded when good =
adult who thinks they can/should always get their own way.

kid 3:
punished when bad +
rewarded when good =
generally well balanced person.

i used kids as the example because generally events in childhood make more of an impact to a persons views, but the situations still hold for adults (and for training animals).

also i never said i was against the death penalty. i was just commenting on another issue raised earlier in the thread.

all those people who say "but what if it was your brother" etc.
you need to get a hold on reality. do you seriously think a justice system would work if all criminals were treated as family members? i would not what my brother killed even if he did deserve it. but that doesn't mean that it's not the right thing to do.
to make a fair and impartial decision you need to distance yourself from personal attatchments, not bring them closer.

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[quote title=mynameisrodney wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 19:16
all those people who say "but what if it was your brother" etc.
you need to get a hold on reality. do you seriously think a justice system would work if all criminals were treated as family members? i would not what my brother killed even if he did deserve it. but that doesn't mean that it's not the right thing to do.
to make a fair and impartial decision you need to distance yourself from personal attatchments, not bring them closer.[/quote]

true but would you ever think your brother deserved to die... over anything. how can killing someone ever be the right thing to do.

to make a fair and impartial decision requires a person to draw on their own personal thoughts and experiences. otherwise how do you decide whats fair and not.

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
family members opinions are most often irrelevant. If that had any bearing, how often do you think you'd hear "We know you're really a very good kid who just made one mistake/fell in with the wrong crew/love your family/etc etc etc". This is why a judge makes an impartial decision. And in Singapore the appropriate punishment for the crime happens to be death.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SR20 trueno wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 16:35


Hi_Ace... do you believe the shit you type Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
you would encourge someone to kill one of your family members for a crime Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
iam not going to protest or anything coz its a waste of time but i still thinks its fucked up

daniel

Sorry Daniel, um what part of what I type are you asking about. Just so I know what to comment on.
But, if the penalty for the crime they committed was the death penalty then I would go along with it.
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hang him twice! then piss on his lifeless body and drag it thru the streets as a sign to all the other people fucking up this world
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[quote title=Hi-Ace wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 09:33]
bathurst-91 wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 09:14

But I for one would like to see the death penalty brought in here for this crime. Yes, if it was my son/daughter or brother/sister I would still say the same thing.



thats the BS i was talking bout hi-ace

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sorry i couldnt find it when i first posted

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Upon entering a foreign country, one must respect their customs, culture and LAWS.

This is the very reason why little Johnny need not interfere and tell other countries how to run their justice systems, just because it isn't similar to the Australian ideal.

If you dislike or disagree with these countries customs and ideals, DON'T GO THERE! And you will never have a problem with the consequences.

Anyways...

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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
In my opinion every high school child in Australia should be made to watch the execution (probably a long shot no need to be too graphic) snd discuss it afterwards
Personally I hate cricket, but if it shows some kind of disrespect for this wasted life form then ill watch all day.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Thu, 01 December 2005 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Build a bridge and get over it. Monday morning something else will be news.
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[quote title=SR20 trueno wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 22:55]
Hi-Ace wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 09:33

bathurst-91 wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 09:14

But I for one would like to see the death penalty brought in here for this crime. Yes, if it was my son/daughter or brother/sister I would still say the same thing.



thats the BS i was talking bout hi-ace

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sorry i couldnt find it when i first posted

Sorry Danniel, but I did say "You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone, and I respect that." earlier.
And I am entitled to mine, therefore I stand by my earlier statment.
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clubagreenie wrote on Fri, 02 December 2005 00:04

Build a bridge and get over it. Monday morning something else will be news.


I agree.
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Update: Swings in 5

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hi-ace i think if it were your family member
you would be complaining... unless you dont like your
family. either way he will be hanged. i just disagree
with the death penalty. it doesnt matter what nationality
you are i dont belive anyone should be put to death
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in a place thats over populated with mainly poor people, illigal dealing would be pretty high (get rich quick)... so the death penalty is nothing... maybe in australia its a big deal but they dont have it as good as we do
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I don't necessarily agree with the death penalty either but the fact remians, it is a well publicised fact especially with the recent media coverage that ASIA has zero tolerance on drug traffickers.

To even contemplate it to me just seems beyond idiotic. Sure he wanted to clear his brothers gambling debts, but why wasn't the brother doing anything to save himself.

And as EVOSTI had mentioned, Van Nyugen isn't as innocent as he sounds for starters who has connections to know someone to organise a drug trafficking expedition. I sure as hell know I wouldn't have the first idea.

Sure its sad he's young etc etc, but fuck he made the chioce to do it, full well knowing the consequences of what may happen (anyone that claims ingnorance is either/both fucking stupid or really pulling at straw to try and get sympathy).

If it was my family member that was involved sure I'd be sad but if they were that fucking stupid to do it I'd let the law take it cause.

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EXACTLY amen
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well he's finally dead. there'll be a HUGE sob story about it on tonight's news, then tomorrow we may finally stop being over-exposed to this.

Until those 2 dudes in vietnam go to stand in front of the firing squad (more idiots trafficking heroin in countries with a death penalty)
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Can't wait till the Bali Nine fuck Rolling Eyes, Van Nyugen is the first since 1993 when some guy in Malaysia was executed.

Potential to have a few more on our hands in the next 12 months ain't the news gonna be great.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Fri, 02 December 2005 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OK the poor bastard is dead.
Juts leave it alone FFS.
What a pethetic waste of space thread. Mad
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Got this from Wikipedia:

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Throughout his trial, Nguyen claimed that he was only carrying the drugs in a bid to pay off debts owed by his twin brother, Khoa (a former heroin addict), who had borrowed around AU$25,000 to help defend himself against drugs and violent offences charges three years previously.



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OWNED
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Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

haha nice , cant wait to hear some jokes about this
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Tats,Dec 2 2005, 11:50 AM


My workmate's sense of humour at 9:20am AEDT...... "He'd be a chandelier by now wouldn't he?"
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ainzmac,Dec 2 2005, 12:05 PM


I got a text message Last night "Hi mum, won't be home for Xmas, hanging around Singapore love Van Nguyen"

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I don't agree with making jokes about it but anyway Rolling Eyes
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yeah i heard that hanging around one like 4 times here today at work already
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SR20 trueno wrote on Fri, 02 December 2005 10:17

hi-ace i think if it were your family member
you would be complaining... unless you dont like your
family.

Danniel, If you have read all my post on this topic you would not say that. It's that, that gives me my thoughts on this matter.


And just as a side note, I don't believe in making jokes about it.
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Re: The Cricket or Van Nygen Execution???? Fri, 02 December 2005 09:52 Go to previous message
yes OK we all had a Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad now is over....
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