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chrishulbert
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Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Thu, 27 March 2003 07:43 Go to next message
I was thinking for my next car, of buying a v8 or v6 or v6 turbo soarer/sc400. They're soooo cheap!!!
Whats the catch?? Can you guys pls tell me about them, about the 3 engine choices, and why they're so cheap???

'Cause they look pretty sweet!

[Updated on: Thu, 27 March 2003 08:35]

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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Thu, 27 March 2003 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
As I got told when thinking about getting one....drive the V8....drive the 3 litre......drive the Twin Turbo and buy the twin turbo

You will be as impressed as me.

Damn fine car. Everything is fantastic in them and get lots for your $'s but there are lots to go wrong too. But with forums like this and a local Toyota dealer things aren't as bad as it seems. Lots of helpers out there.

I live in the middle of nowhere and my only problem so far is getting premium fuel. Sad
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Fri, 28 March 2003 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the only problem is that they are a little over weight. I've heard that all 3 engines are spectacular and the non turbo 6 is very impressive with out a charger i hear. but you can't go past the turbo 6.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Fri, 28 March 2003 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah they are porkers. Mine is only 1400kg's....or so they put on my rego to get cheaper rego. But I was still in the bracket of the dear rego anyway so didn't make any difference.

Mine was 1690 with a full tank of petrol on the weigh bridge. It was a problem of getting the thing passed by the RTA due to being so different and the RTA never seeing one before. Took 4 hours to find the engine number and finally asked a question on here and got the answer straight away...thanks to that person.

I had to go get it weighed and all. The best thing though was the mechanic that did the pink slip was more impressed by it and had never seen one or heard of one before he just passed it cause I was talking to him for 2 hours about it and he ran out of time to actually check anything....ha ha ha

But yeah a greAt car. Glad I got it now.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Sat, 29 March 2003 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
theres no v6s in the lineup.

theres the 4L V8(1UZ-FE, lexus LS400), 3L NA inline6(2JZ-GE, NA Supra) and the 2.5L inline6 turbo(1JZ-GTE, Chaser).

All are fine engines... and fine cars. And all with different equipment options.

depends wat are ur needs...
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chrishulbert
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Sat, 29 March 2003 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
All i want is something nice - not too fast, just around as powerful as a commodore - something that can handle the highways nicely.

The n/a 3L 6 sounds about right (?)
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Sat, 29 March 2003 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well here's a breakdown of the xZZ3x Soarers to help you choose...

If you want an economical Soarer, get the JZZ31 Soarer 3.0GT (or UZZ30 Soarer 4.0GT)...

If you want a luxury car with all the fruit (eg. to increase pimp points) get a UZZ31 Soarer 4.0GT-L...

If you want a Soarer that's quick and handles beautifully, get a JZZ30 Soarer 2.5GT! Smile Very Happy

... actually, if you wanna increase pimp points, just stick on Lexus badges to any of the above hahahhaha... Laughing
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Sat, 29 March 2003 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
they are a great car, have had no major problems with mine. And the lexus badges make all the difference Very Happy
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Sun, 30 March 2003 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pimp is VERY important
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Sun, 30 March 2003 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the twin turbos definantly are the pick of the lot - followed in my oppinion by the V8 ..

the doors on them weigh a tonne - and they wouldnt out handle a similarly modified Supra - BUT they can be made into a veryvery capable grand tourer with a lot more comfy goodness inside

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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Sun, 30 March 2003 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
[quote BUT they can be made into a veryvery capable grand tourer with a lot more comfy goodness inside

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the whole reasion why i got one
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chrishulbert
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Mon, 31 March 2003 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Can they be made to handle very nicely? I'm not interested in lowering for looks, i mean more like springs & bushes & swaybars

Could you, say, make one take the corners like a rex? What sort of upgrades are necessary? Coz i want luxury, but i don't want to drive a barge!!!
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Mon, 31 March 2003 03:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
go to http://www.planetsoarer.com and read some of the articles about the active suspension soarers.

[Updated on: Mon, 31 March 2003 03:08]

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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Mon, 31 March 2003 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
u can also check the forums of ALSC for more info.

www.lexus.australia.as
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Mon, 31 March 2003 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you can make them handle NICELY but they will never outhandle a rex - your comparing a heavier rear wheel drive luxury tourer , to a All wheel drive Handling set up grip machine ..

with firmer springs/shockers and bigger swaybars/bushes etc you could make it cruise thru the bends with a lot more control - but it will never match AWD for handling or traction - sorry dude
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Mon, 31 March 2003 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Give me a few days and I'll tell you how well I can get a Soarer to handle. My TT suspension is going to be virtually all replaced by the weekend.

Front & rear swaybars including urethane bushes.
New lower control arm bushes.
New steering rack bushes.
New KYB coil-over shock absorbers.
APEXi lowering springs.

Shouldn't handle too bad after all of that Very Happy
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Mon, 31 March 2003 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Soarer,

Keep us posted on how the suspension makeover's like when it's done aye! I'm thinking about replacing the TEMS struts and bushes out of mine to fit a set of nice coilovers (haven't chosen which ones yet) and... well new bushes!
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Tue, 01 April 2003 00:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No worries Soarin.

Most of them are installed already, just waiting on delivery of the coil-overs and they'll be installed on Saturday hopefully.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think mine needs new something in the suspension department. It is getting a little noisy on rough roads and when I go up my little lip in the garage it bangs even at 5ks. I looked at the bushes and they look rooted. WHere should I go to get it all looked at and possibly replaced? I don't want any flash rock hard race suspension or anything too exotic. I had enough of my last car with super low Kings springs to never want a lowered car again (but they do look sexy).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 06:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
u shud contact andrew vlamos for the new bushes.
guaranteed quality. restores the ride quality.

he's contactable in the ASLC forum.
check him out.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks a lot mate. Do you know where he lives? THe closest capital city to me is Melbourne and will be there on the Easter holidays for car related stuff.

I also have a bodgy CD player too. It didn't work at all and I bought a CD player cleaner and it works a bit now but one guy I talked to said CD players...especially older ones have a lifespan and can wear out the laser. I really like the idea of having the standard head unit as most Double DIN units have too many lights and look cheap...what I call it "wank factor".

I read in todays Herald Sun that lasers can cost $150 or more Confused Seems too expensive to me. And how about fequency converters. Are they easy to install? I hate not being able to pick up many stations (I can get the 2nd JJJ station that isn't as clear that is not too bad) especially with such a great sound with the sub woofer and no CD player.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
actually all your answers can be easily found on the forum boards of the ASLC.

www.lexus.australia.as

register as a member and the bushes will cost only $370 plus shipping.

contact andrew via email(get the email from the site) and when you get the bushes, jus go down to any suspension place and get the thing put on.

andrew also manufactures steering rack bushes... may want to get that if your steering is wobbly or no up to standard.

with these 2 upgrades, your soarer would regain its original handling.

about the cd player, you can get laser replacements but I am not very sure.

However, i am sure that the topic has been addressed in the forum, i have seen it somewhere.

Gd luck.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
viagra_cressida,

Your queries have been answered at the ALSC, including how to rectify the CD changer skipping/not working problem. Apparently it's a piece of foam under the CD changer to make it essentially 'float'.

Check out the ALSC, many people have the answers for you there! Smile
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Actually, while on the topic, what is the differences between the sc300 and sc400?

jzz30? jzz31?

All these models seem to combine with each other.

I'm interested in finding out what is the best 92-95ish model TT 6 to look for.

Thanks.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
u can find all the info about the car at the ASLC website.

basically, there are 3 versions of the car.

1)the V8 4Litre aka SC400 Toyota Soarer. available in 3 variety.
the UZZ30, UZZ31 & UZZ32. uses the 1UZ-FE.

2)the NA inline6 3litre aka SC300 Soarer. the JZZ31. uses the 2JZ-GE.

3)the twin turbo inline6 2.5litre Soarer that was never badged as a Lexus. the JZZ30. uses the 1JZ-GTE.

equipment varies with each version, with the v8 with the works and the 2.5TT as a barebone.

however there are 'limited' versions of the 2.5TT known as the GT-TL which still has electric lumbar, wood trim, etc.

hope that satisfies some curiosity... juz my 2c.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Soarin, I have looked up heaps of places on Soarer web sites about CD skipping but they are all for CD Changers. Mine is a single CD in dash.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
freakysoarer wrote on Wed, 02 April 2003 19:48

u can find all the info about the car at the ASLC website.

basically, there are 3 versions of the car.

1)the V8 4Litre aka SC400 Toyota Soarer. available in 3 variety.
the UZZ30, UZZ31 & UZZ32. uses the 1UZ-FE.

2)the NA inline6 3litre aka SC300 Soarer. the JZZ31. uses the 2JZ-GE.

3)the twin turbo inline6 2.5litre Soarer that was never badged as a Lexus. the JZZ30. uses the 1JZ-GTE.

equipment varies with each version, with the v8 with the works and the 2.5TT as a barebone.

however there are 'limited' versions of the 2.5TT known as the GT-TL which still has electric lumbar, wood trim, etc.

hope that satisfies some curiosity... juz my 2c.


Ok, Looks like I'll be looking at a JZZ30. I take it they were badged toyota?

They are '92-'95 models?

Also, what is a good list of features to look for? I'm not after one fully loaded, but, what would be a good selection to look for? Like, ABS, LSD, etc, or are those standard?

Thanks.
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Re: Are Soarers / Sc400s any good? Wed, 02 April 2003 12:43 Go to previous message
Apollo wrote on Wed, 02 April 2003 22:24

freakysoarer wrote on Wed, 02 April 2003 19:48

u can find all the info about the car at the ASLC website.

basically, there are 3 versions of the car.

1)the V8 4Litre aka SC400 Toyota Soarer. available in 3 variety.
the UZZ30, UZZ31 & UZZ32. uses the 1UZ-FE.

2)the NA inline6 3litre aka SC300 Soarer. the JZZ31. uses the 2JZ-GE.

3)the twin turbo inline6 2.5litre Soarer that was never badged as a Lexus. the JZZ30. uses the 1JZ-GTE.

equipment varies with each version, with the v8 with the works and the 2.5TT as a barebone.

however there are 'limited' versions of the 2.5TT known as the GT-TL which still has electric lumbar, wood trim, etc.

hope that satisfies some curiosity... juz my 2c.


Ok, Looks like I'll be looking at a JZZ30. I take it they were badged toyota?

They are '92-'95 models?

Also, what is a good list of features to look for? I'm not after one fully loaded, but, what would be a good selection to look for? Like, ABS, LSD, etc, or are those standard?

Thanks.


the jzz30 is available frm 1991 through 2000.
the later having the vvti conversion and minor exterior changes.

LSD is oni available on manual(rare) versions of the TT.
ABS and other goodies are available on the GT-TL(limited version).

the price range from 15000 all the way to 50000+ for good condition cars.
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