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crown/corona's INFO
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Wed, 19 February 2003 03:21
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I'm looking for good tech info on old crowns and corona's..
ANyone have any good sites or know of anyone?
I'm wanting to know which of them feature a full chassis which i can reinforce.. I know the ms55 crowns' do but they're hard to find and I'm looking for maybe a newer crown, but it HAS to have a full chassis like they chevy's do..
What about Corona Mk2 ??
any info greatly appreciated 
Scott in QLD
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Wed, 19 February 2003 03:39
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Try Classicrown like Rob suggested. A veritable cornucopia of info, pics and Crown/early Cressida/Corona Mk2 nuts.
All Crowns up to (and I think including) the 140 series have a full chassis. In other words, right from the first one in 1955 right thru to the early 90's. I think Toyota built them with the mentality that these would be the only cars to survive another atomic bomb blast.
Corona Mk2s only have a front half chassis, from which the suspension hangs and the engine is mounted.
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Wed, 19 February 2003 06:21
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yep, i've been checking out classic crown..
couldn't find much info on their chassis tho'..
but thanx heaps for the info guys..
The corona mk2 has a leaf spring rear suspension am i right?
wot about the front?
I'm considering putting my hydro's into one of these to bounce around in as i can reinforce em..
just curious, but wot about the cressida's.. when were they started? and ever with a full frame? They seem fairly similar to the crown's except they didn't get the larger engines..
still saloon style with luxury options
The 140s seem ok, might try to find one as a project for the hydros.. looking to 3 wheel it etc..
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Wed, 19 February 2003 22:37
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cool.. thanx again for the info.
I think i'll stay with the crown then with the full chassis.
So wot are the chances of finding a 140 series in OZ?
I wouldn't mind a century but they're hard to find and very expensive i'd imagine.
Luv the new shape crown they got in japan
Dont mind the older ones, wot year did they stop selling the crown in Australia anyone know? I'd like to get the newest one i can for a good price
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Wed, 19 February 2003 23:56
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Last Crowns sold here were the MS123 - that was the late 80's. The 130 and 140 series are seen around the place occasionally - as you can imagine they really didn't take off with the importers given that they could get fully loaded Soarers, and they'd be more likely to sell. Still, a horn looking car.
PS: The 140 series didn't come with a full chassis. But if you're really lucky you might find a UZS145 which came with 4WD!
Horn looking Century
Cheers Dave.
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 00:58
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yep,, seen some realy good examples of early 80s crowns for sale really cheap.. i believe they got the 5M-E engine aswell at that time? same with the ozzy supra and cressida ??
Anyway, some have got a fridge in them they say, wots the go on these .. are they a good idea? or trouble prone? and probably expensive to repair..
also the rust problems, wots the rust like for an early 80s crown?
although you'll think i'm mad, i'll probably do the celica up a little and sell it to fund the crown
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 02:38
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| gianttomato wrote on Thu, 20 February 2003 09:56 |
PS: The 140 series didn't come with a full chassis. But if you're really lucky you might find a UZS145 which came with 4WD!
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Or even better, a JZS147 (Aristo) which came with a 2JZ-GTE.
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 03:30
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| gianttomato wrote on Fri, 21 February 2003 13:06 |
I can't believe people call 80's cars old school!
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LOL! I know what you mean... I went to school in the 80's FFS! Old school my arse...
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 03:58
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Errr...Norbie, where did you get that?
Do they have other interesting stuff? Like maybe a Century Crown half-cut (mmmmm....1GZ-FE!  )
On another note, do any of the importers get damaged cars here for "parting out"? I'm after some Mark2 stuff like interior etc (See post under cars wanted etc)...
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 05:00
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heheh yes, aristo is nice,, but no frame 
I really dont mind either shape but yes the pre 80s ones usually have the chrome bumpers etc that I like. Seen some one owners around for 4 grand (1968 model) which seem ok. Can u give me some more info on the earlier crowns?
I'm dreaming of finding a century but like as if that'll happen, LOL. Actually am just about to subscribe to a magazine in QLD that's for Australia wide about japanese car restoration, sounds pretty good to me
I'm not too fussed on the engines as long as they do the job and the car is automatic, t-bar i guess they are. Also must have dual wishbone front (a-arm) and coil-spring rear so I can fit the hydraulics fairly easily. IRS and struts woz a pain in the a$$. Gonna pimp the crown out fully most probably with the wire wheels, white walls, chain steering wheel etc. Isn't to go fast, it's more likely to go slow.
Also just wondering how many ppl are going to yota nationals, and if anyone knows when the brizzy all yota day is on again?
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 05:34
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Well any Crown from RS30 right thru to MS112 will be fine. After that they have rear IRS and from 140 series onwards no full chassis.
You'll be most likely to find an MS55 (68-71 model) or MS65 (72-75 or 76) in good nick and for a reasonable price. After that, they can be fairly rusty and I think they generally lose a bit of their old world charm - they're a bit too late model for me. My humble opinion, not a dig at anyone.
If you want something very different, what about a Crown coupe? MS51s and MS75s, although rare here, are not an infrequent occurrence in NZ. If you're really keen, you could import one.
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Gonna pimp the crown out
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Clubagreenie has a pretty low to the ground MS55.
Japanese Car Restorer is a good mag. Now that's what I call old school!
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Fri, 21 February 2003 05:47
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Steeko,
If your still looking when the Time comes Tina's MS123 Crown may well be up for sale soon. Its a 1985 model, Blue with the Blue Velour interior 5ME Auto and yes the little fridge/Cooler in the back. (There not actually A fridge ! )
All the usual Power options, Climate Control Air Con, Cruise Control, Central locking, Power steering ETC
Makes a Great Mafia Staff car  And yes it has the Full Chassis
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 05:58
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I didn't realise the MS123 has a cooler too. Well, my problem is solved!
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 21 February 2003 06:31
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yep, i been looking at the older ones, but they seem alot more $$$s than the 80s crowns.
Still haven't made my mind up, i luv how the japanese do them lowrider style with the wire rims. So i'm sure i'm gonna go the crown over a cadillac at the moment as a crown will be ALOT cheaper to restore and to run if needed to be .. (whenever i want).. Got any pics of clubagreenie's crown?
woz checking this out:
http://hirostyle.com/sagamiko/61cresta.jpg
loox hella nice
Woz hoping to find a 2 door but they're hard as hell to find, even tho' i've only been looking a few weeks, i can't seem to find any 2 doors for sale. Importing one wouldn't be so bad, i like the pillarless ones' the japs got, wonder if they got them in NZ. Would rather a local model for parts etc..
Thanks so much guys for the info, so the MS112 is the last of the frames, no worries Wot year did they stop production?
And toyman, you say the 85 has the full chassis,, r u sure?
the other guys are saying up to the 112 had the last of the full chassis.. also wot rear setup has the ms123?
Man i'd luv to have the drinks cooler,, hehe would be straight pimpin. How many K's and approx how much u lookin to sell it?
main thing is really the body in good enuff nick and the suspension is to be how i want to accept the hydro's with ease.
Do we have any 2door crowns in the club?
Might goto some car yards on the weekend to inspect their suspension setup if i can find any with crowns around brizzy..
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Sun, 23 February 2003 22:15
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Steeko,
Tinas MS123 Does have a Full Chassis.
Front Suspension is Double Wishbone, Rear is a F series Disk Brake Rear end but is IRS.
The MS112 had the last of the Solid Axle rear ends.
Tina's has done around 270,000 K's but has a new/reco engine fitted buy Toyota not al that long ago, Also had 4 new tires for rego. Oh and its Got a tow bar too ! Looking for around $4700 negotiable for it once we get Tina an alternate Daily driver.
IT looks like this (Tina's is the same colour but not this actual car !)
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Mon, 24 February 2003 02:59
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toyman75..
mmm, loox in good nick You're in Sydney right? I aint got no where near 5Gz' as I'm saving up to propose to the mrs..
BUT...
I still got my SA63 celica with 3gz worth of rims sitting in my garage.. Celica has done 255K no rebuild and is still going strong. Dno if i wanna sell her either tho', LOL..
could do a swap perhaps?
I got pics up at:
http://www.geocities.com/unitylowridercc
I'd have to take out all the welds on the upper spring mounts and put the stock suspension back in. Has a bit of reinforcement in it too. Gotta get a fully framed car for the hydraulics so I don't go twisting the hell outta a unibody car.
Got some sideskirts for the celica and yes those 16" rims.
Not sure how much i'd get for it but has had much denero spent..
Either that or sell the mrs MA61 and that aint gonna happen...
Unless you can hold onto the crown till I got enuff $$s for it.
Can only have 1 car of my own at my parents else it'll turn into a car yard (already is).. not sure if i wanna tackle IRS again, is it semi-trailing arm like my 83 celica? wots the MS123 on like for parts? and it rolls the 5-ME i suspect.
I'm still going thru classiccrown and researching as much as i can, but yeah I'd luv to look under an MS55, MS112 and MS123 to find the differences.
Anyway, have a look at the celica..
Steeko
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Re: crown/corona's INFO
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Fri, 28 February 2003 03:16
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Hey guys.. been reading up more.. I think an MS123 or MS112 series 1 with the yanky style grill
Still hardly any around for sale, specially QLD.
But i'll keep looking still gotta get the celica all ready so I can sell it, still don't know if i can bring myself to sell the little celica - it's been so good to me.
The japs do em up pretty clean i've seen, and those MS53 wagons look tight when lowered a bit
thanx for all the info ppls
c ya
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