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1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 03:21 Go to next message
I am wiring my engine for a Wolf ECU, And can't quite work out the igniter wiring.

The wiring I am chasing is:
Blk/Brown I think this is 12V

Wh/Blk I think this is earth

Blk with silver spot from the small plug No idea

Rd/Yell Labelled is IGF1 on the Toyota wiring. From ECU
direct to igniter. No idea

The coil wiring is OK, and the ignition in seems ok as well. The digram I got from my previous post covered these. The ones above I think Toyota assumed it was so obvious that there was no need to mention them. I also assume that the coils are direct fed 12V on one side, and the igniter supplies earth on the other.
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If anyone's got wiring for a 2jzgte ignitor (if it is different that is), I'd love to know too!
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I can mail you the 2JZGTE ones but you know there's a tech repository with all these wiring diagrams now?
http://www.toymods.org.au/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi? mode=view&album=/TechDocs

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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so you've got your ignition wired up .. but you need the igniter wiring?!
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not quite, what I meant was that the 6 inputs to the igniter to fire it are OK, as are the 6 coil outputs. The drawings in the tech page tell me just about everything, except what the hell is the IGF wire do. It sort of looks like it has a resistive 5 volts behind it. The Wolf ECU has nothing like it. I am trying to find out if it does something important or not. It could be a part of the diagnostic system that reports a fault back to the ECU.
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
to my understanding, IGF is the ... *ruffles through the numerous wiring diagrams* ignition on the fuel pump ... I'm not 100% on that, but it sits right next to the fuel pump relay wire, so it made sense to me.

sorry, "ignition on +12" is it's technical name, but it connects to the fuel pump
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
According to http://tar.home.sprynet.com/page6.html, which I have just been looking at, IGF is ignition fail, which is an acknowledgement that ignition has occured. If the ECU doesn't see this, it stops supplying fuel to the motor. In my case, I will leave this unconnected, as the Wolf doesn't care about IGF, it just keeps pumping fuel, and assumes that the ignition event has occurred.
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Fri, 21 February 2003 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hrm
you just saved me a wiring hassle or two Smile

I was wondering about that, why a +12v connection would be labelled as anything else
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Sat, 22 February 2003 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
We shall see how it goes. I have wired everthing up as best I can. It was a lot of stuffing about to make sure that I had the Crank Sensor and Cam sensor connect with the right polarity, as the wiring used in my engine didn't line up with the various diagrams on the internet. I am just about to fire up the laptop and the ECU, and see what happens. If I see smoke you'll hear me in Sydney.
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Sat, 22 February 2003 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
would be good to hear how it goes.
I've got an ltx12 to wire up soon, so I can pump you for the polarity of the crank angle sensor Smile
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Sun, 23 February 2003 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not a problem. I will put a diagram and the base and full map on my website after the race meeting. I can't understand why Wolf don't do this for all the information they are sending to people. It would save them a lot of time and trouble I would think.
If you want to know bits an pieces before then, give me an email on jbrough@telstra.com.
I hope my car is down to the mucking around bits now. I have a week and a half to get it pumping before we have to pack up and head to the annual DLRA speedweek meeting in Sth Australia. If I can't get it done, I miss out till next year.
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Sat, 01 March 2003 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My engine is now running, so if anyones interested in using a Wolf ECU, I have a wiring plan and a base map to start with.
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Mon, 03 March 2003 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
why hasnt anyone asked ed??
apparently he knows EVERYTHING about ANYTHING!!
just ask him guys he'll tell ya!
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Mon, 03 March 2003 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What are you, like 5? If you aren't going to contribute the forums, then why the hell are you wasting bandwidth?
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Mon, 03 March 2003 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:19

why hasnt anyone asked ed??
apparently he knows EVERYTHING about ANYTHING!!
just ask him guys he'll tell ya!


well, ok, yes, its true, Everything about anything Rolling Eyes
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Re: 1JZ GTE Igniter wiring Mon, 03 March 2003 12:12 Go to previous message
The crank sensor is wired so that it curves negative, then has a sharp rise to positive, then curves back to zero. The yellow is the one that I fed into the computer, and the red was connected to the earth in the ignition loom. On the other side of the connector, red becomes BL/Green, and Yellow becomes Bl/Yell. I don't know why this would be, maybe I am not using the right connector. On the TPS, I used Brown, Yell and Bl/Red. The red I left disconnected. It seems to be a position switch that is used to detect a position for some reason. For some reason I didn't write down the cam sensor polarity. I will sort that out tomorrow, perhaps.
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