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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Sat, 22 February 2003 08:34 Go to next message
Hey guys;

I was just checking to see how many people have done the 2j Conversions on the Supra MK2.

I am starting this project and wanted to see if its true what they say " Misery does love Company".

All joking aside, Just wanted to discuss a few things.

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Sat, 22 February 2003 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie is using an Aristo 2J (Front sump) halfcut ATM. Very Happy

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Sat, 22 February 2003 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Talk to Norbie, a frequent flyer around here, and also some guy on www.supraforums.com called JZA60. He's in the US and has actually finished his, although Norbie's just a wiring session away now.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Sun, 23 February 2003 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah there's me, and that dude from California, and Paul Pyyvaara from the Gold Coast, but he doesn't frequent these forums. Those are the only ones I'm aware of.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 24 February 2003 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well i finished my 1j conversion ages ago................ Very Happy
he he, no its definately true though misery does love company when it comes to a JZ\MA 61 conversion, if you want pm me, i have all the conversion info written down, the mounts to make it a srait bolt in and i can get the JZ to w58 bellhousing ect.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 24 February 2003 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
errrr... its a whole differnt ballpark putting a 2jz into a ma61 dude.

1jz is a relative piece of piss
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Tue, 25 February 2003 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sooo ED enlighten us.

We mocked up Norbies engine/Box in his engine bay using his old auto and a 1J block i had kicking around.

What makes the 2J that much harder..... All you need is 23mm more clear space between the throttlebody/camcover/oil filler and the bonnet and you are home free.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Tue, 25 February 2003 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Very Happy cheers,
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Tue, 25 February 2003 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how about ripping the w58 into 3 pieces, torting the diff carrier out of the subframe, and breaking stub axles? on top of that, you want to stop using 258mm single piston brakes?

no brainer unmodified 1jzgte plonk in drive away - yes
2jzgte not a chance for any kind of deliberate heavy footed driving.

you want to do a thorough 2jzgte conversion, you have to address these issues.

you compared a 2jzgte loom to a 1jzgte loom? and yeah JAZE, what a tremendous job you and dabbid did of even the 1jz wiring - fucked it up and sold it.

and btw JAZE, your 1jz mounts DONT FIT a 2jzgte

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Tue, 25 February 2003 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete wrote on Tue, 25 February 2003 22:28


What makes the 2J that much harder..... All you need is 23mm more clear space between the throttlebody/camcover/oil filler and the bonnet and you are home free.


to be more succinct, all i was getting at was that theres more to a 2jz conversion than simply making it fit.

(and also that JAZE has never actually done a 2jz -have you even SEEN a 2jz dude??-, let alone done a 1jz properly, and really shouldnt grandstand about how easy a 2jz fitment is)

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've recently been involved in a 1JZ conversion, and I gotta say the wiring side of things is a completely different kettle of fish. I reckon I could have wired up a 1JZ myself, but there is no way I'd even think of tackling the 2JZ wiring without some professional help!

Ed: I don't want to hear about W58's being ripped into 3 pieces. Instead I'm going to assume that W58's are the strongest box in the world and will never break. OK? Wink
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie, I couldn't think of anything stronger....reassuring?
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 11:46


Instead I'm going to assume that W58's are the strongest box in the world and will never break. OK? Wink



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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What? Where? And how much?
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm sure the W58 is the strongest box in the world but try these on for size.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haha, and you thought an R154 would be hard to fit Razz
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JAZE wrote on Tue, 25 February 2003 23:50

Very Happy cheers,


and so, with the above comments from compadres - yes youre 'so' right jaze hahaha ... you can stick that 'cheers' up your ass...

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh, btw norbie, not trying to put the fear of god up you!! the fact youre one of a handful of people world wide even game enough to give it a real crack is testament enough to what a heavy job youve taken on, and im sure itll pay off ...

everyone knows youll not be driving it in a silly way Rolling Eyes

lol!

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No no, I promise to drive it sensibly, always. Trust me. Very Happy
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haha, no "skids" ey Norbie? Razz
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 14:25

Haha, no "skids" ey Norbie? Razz


No skids?!?!?!?! Pigs' arse!

I believe the 'first drive' sequence of events should go something like this:

  1. start car,
  2. drive sedately on to street, and
  3. let rip with the most humungus linelocker ever seen, launching visciously towards the nearest T intersection where Norbie skilfully breaks into a filthy fat doughie.


Of course, this is all caught on digicam and put on the net, for the education and wonderment of all.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
[quote title=gianttomato wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 14:30]
justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 14:25


  1. start car,
  2. drive sedately on to street, and
  3. let rip with the most humungus linelocker ever seen, launching visciously towards the nearest T intersection where Norbie skilfully breaks into a filthy fat doughie.




heheheee!!

with the w58 going... "Common!! gimme more, BITCH!"

lol!
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 03:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hahahahahahaha....meanwhile the diff is screaming..."PUSSY!!! Is that all you've got??? " Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 13:30

Of course, this is all caught on digicam and put on the net, for the education and wonderment of all.

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed... wish you'd let up on the criticism

like, I had nothing to do with the wiring of the car.. I bought it as is, and am 3/4 of the way through working out the wiring for an ltx12 I'm putting in.

the w58 should hold up well norbie, assuming you're not going to mod your 2jz too much (lets just ignore that beautiful intercooler you've got in there shall we? Wink)
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
draven wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 16:11


like, I had nothing to do with the wiring of the car.. I bought it as is


oh, mate, sorry, didnt mean you, meant dabbid...

my wrong, no malice towards you intended at all Shocked

ill just go back and edit my post and correct that error

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 05:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no worries.
I mean, I know nothing about car wiring myself (which is why I'm getting help from paul) but if I do it I'm going to make sure it's all working.

the ecu is actually wired up correctly, just it's the wrong ecu, and a couple of other issues
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
We're going to have a wiring day in March shortly and get it all sorted.

I'm confident of some decent power gains cause the thing is running in limp home mode.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
decent?
I would think it'd be more than that.
will also be putting some new sparks in it (I don't even want to think what they look like after how rich it's running)

on a sort-of related topic.... you mentioned earlier paul that running that rich could be... doing something to the oil (I forget, was a long time ago)
would this result in burning more oil, or.. what?
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Wed, 26 February 2003 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The extra unburnt petrol 'runs' down the bores, mixes with oil, thinning it out. This does 2 things - uses more oil, but more importantly, it reduces the lubricating quality of the oil, doing untold damage to your engine.

It's called 'limp home' for a good reason dude.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Thu, 27 February 2003 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
right
so as soon as I change the ecu I'll be doing an oil change too
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 03 March 2003 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey ED, any time u'd like to criticise me just give me a call- 0414916538
quite obvious that u know fuck all!!
first off tell me how the wiring was fucked up on the 1jz i did, yeh thats right i did it all myself, unlike u, i think u'd be lucky if u could even read the pictures and work out where the battery is connected u useless piece of shit
but really i'd love for u to tell me what was wrong with the wiring, probly the fact that soe new wires were used, whereas the only u would have it done is with second hand shit!!
second, u would never get someone to do it for u because that cost money, only way u could afford it would be on ya hands and knees with their dick in ur mouth the rest of ur life!!
third, who ever said the mounts that once again i made, would fit onto a 2jz?? y dont u find out some real facts b4 u go givin people shit, all u do is make yaself look like a dickhead infront of everyone!
what ppiece of shit do u drive anyway? obvious nothin too spectacular, all round retreads, a dick smith am radio,paint on tint?? c'mon i'm struggling tryin to think of really cheap pieces of shit, all i know is that u'll never own a 1jz or in that case, probly never anything with more than 2 valves per cylinder, and even if u did i bet my fucken life on it that it either doesnt work or is in pieces because of some ungodly reason

next time u wanna put shit on me mate, call me, u have my number, GO FOR IT!!!
make sure u use someone else fone though, wouldnt want it to ost anything! or try reverse charges u tight ass!
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 03 March 2003 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whoa! feel the love Shocked ...

Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11

first off tell me how the wiring was fucked up on the 1jz i did


cause draven is driving it now, and its fucked. he bought it like that, remember?

Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11

third, who ever said the mounts that once again i made, would fit onto a 2jz??

Jaze wrote

(i have) the mounts to make it a srait bolt in



i do believe jaze is talking about your mounts here is he not ??
if you didnt design them for the 2jz, perhaps you should inform 'jaze' (love it how he changed his handle on here btw cause people caught on how full of shit he is) of this fact, before he goes around tarnishing your name fobbing off your goods for purposes that they were never intended.

Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11

y dont u find out some real facts b4 u go givin people shit


if anything i have just clarified above is incorrect, i apologise, and will make a full retraction

Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11

a dick smith am radio


damn, i dont even have a radio. got me on that one

Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11

next time u wanna put shit on me mate, call me, u have my number


ok....

BUT - to clarify, i dont think i was ever having a direct shot at you, and as i dont even know you, i harly think i would. HOWEVER, 'jaze' got up my ass way back in this thread with his 1jz comments (in a 2jz thread) that were out of line. my only point was that i hardly feel that jaze can accurately pass comment on the 'ease' of a 2jz installation (and in the same breath try and sell incorrect (?) parts for such installation - funny that!) especially considering the current functional status of his ex project. that is where my comments started and ended. im sorry you got stung - but, in this situation, your association with jaze won you a mention.

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 03 March 2003 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i dont know why im even bothering to reply ed.
i got up your ass by posting on a 2j thread with regards to a 1J.
interesting that a crusty 5M resides under the bonnet of your supra, despite your continued talk of all sorts of conversions.
it is clear to me that you just like to get on these forums and badmouth people from afar because it gives you some sort of quirky satisfaction. you are a hypocrite and a fool, how can you give advice on a conversion which you yourself know nothing about? i on the other hand was at least trying to help which is why these forums are here. and my offer of engine mounts wasbased on the thought that the two J motors have the same block which is a fair assumption and if i am wrong there are nicer ways to tell people. i have been to queensland twice to check out norbies conersion so at least i do have some idea of the subject matter. i from this point on will cease offering advice on this forums. thank you for your helpfulness.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 03 March 2003 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 03 March 2003 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it's really disappointing when you see bitching like this. Just 'cause someone posts something that's wrong, dont have to take their head off! at least maintain a pretense of niceness on the forums, and scream at each other in private as dave suggested

and as I said, there wasn't anything wrong with the wiring
it's just wired up to the wrong ecu

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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 03 March 2003 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
But draven...no one on heres human therefore no mistakes are allowed!! Laughing
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion Mon, 03 March 2003 12:00 Go to previous message
nah let em at it...im quite entertained. First ed puts shit on me and now its someone else's turn...go ahead.
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