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Location: Canada
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Sat, 22 February 2003 08:34
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Hey guys;
I was just checking to see how many people have done the 2j Conversions on the Supra MK2.
I am starting this project and wanted to see if its true what they say " Misery does love Company".
All joking aside, Just wanted to discuss a few things.
Cheers
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Sat, 22 February 2003 08:54
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Norbie is using an Aristo 2J (Front sump) halfcut ATM.
Norbie's Site
Cheers
Wilbo
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I supported Toymods
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Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Sat, 22 February 2003 22:22
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Talk to Norbie, a frequent flyer around here, and also some guy on www.supraforums.com called JZA60. He's in the US and has actually finished his, although Norbie's just a wiring session away now.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Sun, 23 February 2003 13:23
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Yeah there's me, and that dude from California, and Paul Pyyvaara from the Gold Coast, but he doesn't frequent these forums. Those are the only ones I'm aware of.
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Location: cronulla
Registered: September 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 24 February 2003 10:13
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Well i finished my 1j conversion ages ago................
he he, no its definately true though misery does love company when it comes to a JZ\MA 61 conversion, if you want pm me, i have all the conversion info written down, the mounts to make it a srait bolt in and i can get the JZ to w58 bellhousing ect.
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 24 February 2003 21:51
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errrr... its a whole differnt ballpark putting a 2jz into a ma61 dude.
1jz is a relative piece of piss
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Location: gold coast
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Tue, 25 February 2003 11:28
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Sooo ED enlighten us.
We mocked up Norbies engine/Box in his engine bay using his old auto and a 1J block i had kicking around.
What makes the 2J that much harder..... All you need is 23mm more clear space between the throttlebody/camcover/oil filler and the bonnet and you are home free.
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Location: cronulla
Registered: September 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Tue, 25 February 2003 12:50
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cheers,
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 00:46
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I've recently been involved in a 1JZ conversion, and I gotta say the wiring side of things is a completely different kettle of fish. I reckon I could have wired up a 1JZ myself, but there is no way I'd even think of tackling the 2JZ wiring without some professional help!
Ed: I don't want to hear about W58's being ripped into 3 pieces. Instead I'm going to assume that W58's are the strongest box in the world and will never break. OK?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 00:54
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Norbie, I couldn't think of anything stronger....reassuring?
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 00:58
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Norbie wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 11:46 |
Instead I'm going to assume that W58's are the strongest box in the world and will never break. OK?
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Did you spot those V160s for sale?
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 01:03
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What? Where? And how much?
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I supported Toymods
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 01:08
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Haha, and you thought an R154 would be hard to fit
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 02:17
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JAZE wrote on Tue, 25 February 2003 23:50 | cheers,
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and so, with the above comments from compadres - yes youre 'so' right jaze hahaha ... you can stick that 'cheers' up your ass...
ed
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 02:22
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oh, btw norbie, not trying to put the fear of god up you!! the fact youre one of a handful of people world wide even game enough to give it a real crack is testament enough to what a heavy job youve taken on, and im sure itll pay off ...
everyone knows youll not be driving it in a silly way
lol!
ed
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 03:04
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No no, I promise to drive it sensibly, always. Trust me.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 03:25
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Haha, no "skids" ey Norbie?
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 03:30
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justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 14:25 | Haha, no "skids" ey Norbie?
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No skids?!?!?!?! Pigs' arse!
I believe the 'first drive' sequence of events should go something like this:
- start car,
- drive sedately on to street, and
- let rip with the most humungus linelocker ever seen, launching visciously towards the nearest T intersection where Norbie skilfully breaks into a filthy fat doughie.
Of course, this is all caught on digicam and put on the net, for the education and wonderment of all.
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 03:35
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[quote title=gianttomato wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 14:30]justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 14:25 |
- start car,
- drive sedately on to street, and
- let rip with the most humungus linelocker ever seen, launching visciously towards the nearest T intersection where Norbie skilfully breaks into a filthy fat doughie.
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heheheee!!
with the w58 going... "Common!! gimme more, BITCH!"
lol!
ed
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 04:14
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gianttomato wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 13:30 | Of course, this is all caught on digicam and put on the net, for the education and wonderment of all.
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<Mr Burns>
I like the cut of your jib!
</Mr Burns>
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 05:11
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ed... wish you'd let up on the criticism
like, I had nothing to do with the wiring of the car.. I bought it as is, and am 3/4 of the way through working out the wiring for an ltx12 I'm putting in.
the w58 should hold up well norbie, assuming you're not going to mod your 2jz too much (lets just ignore that beautiful intercooler you've got in there shall we? )
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 05:26
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draven wrote on Wed, 26 February 2003 16:11 |
like, I had nothing to do with the wiring of the car.. I bought it as is
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oh, mate, sorry, didnt mean you, meant dabbid...
my wrong, no malice towards you intended at all
ill just go back and edit my post and correct that error
cheers
ed
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 05:29
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no worries.
I mean, I know nothing about car wiring myself (which is why I'm getting help from paul) but if I do it I'm going to make sure it's all working.
the ecu is actually wired up correctly, just it's the wrong ecu, and a couple of other issues
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Location: North Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 11:42
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We're going to have a wiring day in March shortly and get it all sorted.
I'm confident of some decent power gains cause the thing is running in limp home mode.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 12:32
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decent?
I would think it'd be more than that.
will also be putting some new sparks in it (I don't even want to think what they look like after how rich it's running)
on a sort-of related topic.... you mentioned earlier paul that running that rich could be... doing something to the oil (I forget, was a long time ago)
would this result in burning more oil, or.. what?
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Wed, 26 February 2003 23:58
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The extra unburnt petrol 'runs' down the bores, mixes with oil, thinning it out. This does 2 things - uses more oil, but more importantly, it reduces the lubricating quality of the oil, doing untold damage to your engine.
It's called 'limp home' for a good reason dude.
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Thu, 27 February 2003 07:31
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right
so as soon as I change the ecu I'll be doing an oil change too
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Location: Yowie Bay, Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 03 March 2003 08:11
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hey ED, any time u'd like to criticise me just give me a call- 0414916538
quite obvious that u know fuck all!!
first off tell me how the wiring was fucked up on the 1jz i did, yeh thats right i did it all myself, unlike u, i think u'd be lucky if u could even read the pictures and work out where the battery is connected u useless piece of shit
but really i'd love for u to tell me what was wrong with the wiring, probly the fact that soe new wires were used, whereas the only u would have it done is with second hand shit!!
second, u would never get someone to do it for u because that cost money, only way u could afford it would be on ya hands and knees with their dick in ur mouth the rest of ur life!!
third, who ever said the mounts that once again i made, would fit onto a 2jz?? y dont u find out some real facts b4 u go givin people shit, all u do is make yaself look like a dickhead infront of everyone!
what ppiece of shit do u drive anyway? obvious nothin too spectacular, all round retreads, a dick smith am radio,paint on tint?? c'mon i'm struggling tryin to think of really cheap pieces of shit, all i know is that u'll never own a 1jz or in that case, probly never anything with more than 2 valves per cylinder, and even if u did i bet my fucken life on it that it either doesnt work or is in pieces because of some ungodly reason
next time u wanna put shit on me mate, call me, u have my number, GO FOR IT!!!
make sure u use someone else fone though, wouldnt want it to ost anything! or try reverse charges u tight ass!
have a good day, cya
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Location: Lost in the K hole
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 03 March 2003 10:21
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whoa! feel the love ...
Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11 | first off tell me how the wiring was fucked up on the 1jz i did
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cause draven is driving it now, and its fucked. he bought it like that, remember?
Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11 | third, who ever said the mounts that once again i made, would fit onto a 2jz??
Jaze wrote | (i have) the mounts to make it a srait bolt in
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i do believe jaze is talking about your mounts here is he not ??
if you didnt design them for the 2jz, perhaps you should inform 'jaze' (love it how he changed his handle on here btw cause people caught on how full of shit he is) of this fact, before he goes around tarnishing your name fobbing off your goods for purposes that they were never intended.
Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11 | y dont u find out some real facts b4 u go givin people shit
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if anything i have just clarified above is incorrect, i apologise, and will make a full retraction
Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11 | a dick smith am radio
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damn, i dont even have a radio. got me on that one
Dabbid wrote on Mon, 03 March 2003 19:11 | next time u wanna put shit on me mate, call me, u have my number
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ok....
BUT - to clarify, i dont think i was ever having a direct shot at you, and as i dont even know you, i harly think i would. HOWEVER, 'jaze' got up my ass way back in this thread with his 1jz comments (in a 2jz thread) that were out of line. my only point was that i hardly feel that jaze can accurately pass comment on the 'ease' of a 2jz installation (and in the same breath try and sell incorrect (?) parts for such installation - funny that!) especially considering the current functional status of his ex project. that is where my comments started and ended. im sorry you got stung - but, in this situation, your association with jaze won you a mention.
ed
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Location: cronulla
Registered: September 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 03 March 2003 11:01
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i dont know why im even bothering to reply ed.
i got up your ass by posting on a 2j thread with regards to a 1J.
interesting that a crusty 5M resides under the bonnet of your supra, despite your continued talk of all sorts of conversions.
it is clear to me that you just like to get on these forums and badmouth people from afar because it gives you some sort of quirky satisfaction. you are a hypocrite and a fool, how can you give advice on a conversion which you yourself know nothing about? i on the other hand was at least trying to help which is why these forums are here. and my offer of engine mounts wasbased on the thought that the two J motors have the same block which is a fair assumption and if i am wrong there are nicer ways to tell people. i have been to queensland twice to check out norbies conersion so at least i do have some idea of the subject matter. i from this point on will cease offering advice on this forums. thank you for your helpfulness.
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 03 March 2003 11:08
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see ya!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Brisbane, QLD
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 03 March 2003 11:59
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But draven...no one on heres human therefore no mistakes are allowed!!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Toyota Supra MK2 2J Conversion
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Mon, 03 March 2003 12:00
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nah let em at it...im quite entertained. First ed puts shit on me and now its someone else's turn...go ahead.
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