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Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Wed, 26 February 2003 10:59
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Hey all
im contemplating buying a TA23
now i know that u can go 1G-GTE's into RA23
but is it all good for the TA23's ???
Just thought id ask to make sure
cause the TA's have diff engines so i assume diff engine mounts etc ???
Thanx
Mani
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Wed, 26 February 2003 11:27
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I thinks its easier to do a 1G conversion in a TA23 because it uses a cross member to suit a front sump 
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Wed, 26 February 2003 11:30
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Yup, TA23s and RA23s are the same, chassis-wise.
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Wed, 26 February 2003 11:35
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The crossmembers are different though. yeah?
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Wed, 26 February 2003 11:52
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TA23 and RA23 are basically same car with different engines and gearboxes.
* The TA23 better as it has the crossmember you need for the big front- mount sump with the factory goodies (baffles, trapdoor, windage tray) as found on most water-to-air intercooled 1Gs.
* Its also easier to do a rack and pinion steering setup later. and;
*Its easier to get the motor back further 
Good Luck!
.oo Dave Oo.
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Wed, 26 February 2003 11:55
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Just as I thought 
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Thu, 27 February 2003 04:08
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but its only good if ya using a front sump which are pretty rare
i had to get a ra23 crossmember to put my 1g in
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Thu, 27 February 2003 06:18
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well then since my last post went to hell with major critisism ill try this one
ok so if i go buy this ra23 (lt 2000, anyone interested in a 2l enine??? $200/250) then the 1g should SHOULD with a little modification to the sump fit right in place??
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Thu, 27 February 2003 07:40
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Ahh ok. So not all 1g's have the front sump?
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Thu, 27 February 2003 08:09
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Wow
Thanx heaps for the replys guys
Ta
Mani
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Thu, 27 February 2003 11:22
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nup i believe there are 3 types of sumps
front
mid
and mid/rear
the mid/rear is most common
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Thu, 27 February 2003 11:27
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Ok thanks.
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Sun, 02 March 2003 23:41
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Hey Dave,
Good to see you on the Net again!
From what I know, front sumps came in Gen 1 1G-GTE's, 1G-GZEs, and 1G-GEs. Wasn't aware that there were different types of front sump!
The mid/rear sumps seem to be the ones found on the later model 1G-GTEs.
Soo, if you have a front sump, get a TA23 crossmember.
If you have a mid/rear, you have to modify it slightly with a big arse hammer and stick it behind an RA23 crossmember.
This applies to RA40s too. Not sure about what you'd do if you had a front sump...
My RA60 uses a front sump.
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Sun, 02 March 2003 23:56
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Hey Nark, did you have any clearance issues with the swaybar? I'm helping a friend put a 1G in an ST141 Corona, and we're not sure if a front sump is going to cause us grief. The engine is out of a GA70 so it's a mid-rear... any idea which type of sump we should be tracking down? FWIW we're using a crossmember from an RT142 (22R-E engine) so it should be much the same as an RA60 1G conversion.
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Mon, 03 March 2003 00:52
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Well, I have a front sump and I needed a new swaybar made up for it.
I've never actually looked at how the mid/rear will sit in the RA60, so I can't really help you there.
Just see if it will fit, otherwise, you may have to track down a front sump.
The front sump, as Dave said, is the best sump configuration for the 1G. It's larger, has the wings, and has better internal baffling.
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Mon, 03 March 2003 05:16
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There's one more. The Mid Rear on the gen 3 motor is different from the mid rear from the earlier motors. It is not as deep.
Craig
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Re: Question on 1G conv. for TA & RA23
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Mon, 03 March 2003 05:29
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The mid-rear sump definitely won't fit; the RT142 crossmember requires a front sump. What I meant was, after this discussion of different front-sump configurations, should I be looking for a specific model which will clear the swaybar? From your post it sounds like the swaybar will have to go, which is what I kinda suspected. 
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