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KOPDIS
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icon9.gif  4AC simple Mods? please l'm new to this!! LOL! Fri, 14 June 2002 12:16 Go to next message
hey all l'm sure this has been asked 1,000,000 times before but l'll ask it again as l have no idea! l just wanted to know what simple mods the 4AC responds well too, eg cat back exhaust? full exhaust? bigger carb/webber? diff? etc etc l dont wanna put another engine in and only wanna spend a small amount of $$ l have a rear muffler to go on from a previous car so what diameter zaust should l get 2" or 2.25?

Please spare me the 4AC jokes etc. l know it aint the greatest engine but hey l gotta work with what l got, and l wanna atleast make it faster than a stocker, thanks in advance peoples, eventually l want a 20v but hey thats atleast 12momnths away at the moment.

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Re: 4AC simple Mods? please l'm new to this!! LOL! Fri, 14 June 2002 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Im sorry buddy but your dead right when you say that the 4A-C aint the greatest engine in the world. In all seriousness save your cash and do a complete conversion when you can.

But if you absolutely must modify it....

(1) remove engine from bay
(2) smash the bastard with a sledge hammer.

Sorry about that, but i always wanted to say it. But modifying the the 4A-C, the sheer futility of such an endevour will make you kick yourself at the end.

That muffler on the other hand will atleast make it sound faster.

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Re: 4AC simple Mods? please l'm new to this!! LOL! Fri, 14 June 2002 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nah it's not such a silly question - see this thread in the old forums:
http://www.toymods.org.au/forums/viewthread.php?FI D=4&TID=4390

If you do a search in the old forums on "4AC" you might pick up some other info as well.

It may not be the greatest but it aint the worst either, and responds well to a few simple mods.

Good luck!

rgrds
sam

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Re: 4AC simple Mods? please l'm new to this!! LOL! Fri, 14 June 2002 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yep fergo's goes reasonably well for a 4ac.
Pulled alot harder than my 4ac did put it that way Laughing

From memory main things are, exhaust, new air filter and get rid of the polution crap.

But as has been said get rid of it as soon as u got the momeny Smiley $$
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Re: 4AC simple Mods? please l'm new to this!! LOL! Sat, 15 June 2002 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
advance the timing... more ... then a little more... and a bit more... umm... then install a 4agze.

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Re: 4AC simple Mods? please l'm new to this!! LOL! Sat, 15 June 2002 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes,the 4AC is nothing to get excited about,we all know this.
you'll be lucky to break 45kw atw from a tweaked 4AC in a sprinter.
power isn't everything however.

a few simple mods as asked for:
*open aircleaner. the std housing is utter garbage. something designed for a stromberg on an old holden will virtually bolt straight on,and will make a world of difference to the thing's breathing. you'll actually be able to use the top 1500rpm of the rev range. a round 8 or 9" chrome disc style unit is ideal.
get some cold air to it if you can,but don't worry if that's not possible. it won't make much of a difference on this engine.

*full exhaust. I run a 2 1/2" system,with a mercedes SLK cat (you have to love freebies!)two resonators,and a straight through muffler. leave the cat out if you don't mind breathing in benzene. the two resonators are needed to keep the note somewhere near a legal level. the 4A barks quite loudly.

*grab an AE82's electronic dizzy and coil. nice improvements to driveability with one of these. better throttle response,cold starting,and economy. no real power increase,but you have a much nicer running engine with the electronic spark setup.

*remove the *ahem* performance controls. this includes the EGR,extra diaphragm beside the secondary butterfly control,and various water temp switched vacuum bleeds. all you need is the ported vacuum line to the dizzy,the line from the manifold to the brake booster,and the diaphragm for the secondaries. remove everything else.
on electrics,remove the bleeder solenoid from the O/S strut tower,but leave the choke's power and earth wires connected.

*exhaust manifold:while taking off the "performance controls",
flip the manifold heating flapper in the exhaust manifold to the fully open position(it's normally closed until the higher end of the rev range-aiming nearly all of the gas from 1 and 2 at the base of the inlet manifold). hold it in this position by reversing the spring that opens it to the opposite side of it's stop.
this will improve the flow of the manifold slightly,especially at lower RPM.


that's the virtually free stuff. do all of this,and it should rev cleanly to about 5k,and die off from then onward to the 6k redline.

if you want to spend a few hundred on it,get a reground camshaft (~$100),rejet the std carb,and do a portmatch job on the manifolds.
my inlet manifold got cleaned up quite a bit,as the std runners are tiny and shockingly made.
I've also started to port a spare head,but may not bother finishing it. I'm finding it hard to justify paying for a valve reface,reseat and head surface skim job,and in spending the time it will take me to finish the ports and chambers to a level I'd accept.
my 20V is a more sensible item to spend my money and time on.

hope this helps some,


Justin...

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KOPDIS
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Re: 4AC simple Mods? please l'm new to this!! LOL! Sat, 15 June 2002 16:21 Go to previous message
Jeez ! thanks guys l thought l get no help at all and you'd just pay out on me! Smile l'll put some of thi stheory into practice and let you know how l go. l just got a new tail gate today, a trueno one!!! original too, red in colour (same as my car) it "had" 1.5 SR on the lefy side and ''trueno" on the right side l took the 1.5 SR bit off but couldn't help but leave the trueno cause it looks cool as ! anyway later ya'll

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