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icon4.gif  AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 02:04 Go to next message
well, after some serious hunting about, the throttle body dilemma for project 7m has been solved!!!!!!!

http://mysticcobra.net/GRAPHICS/throttle.jpg

TWIN 57mm throttle plate assembly off a 4.6L V8 Cobra

cut and shut the 7m (or eve a 2jz) Y pipe and this puppy will fit straight in Smile

thats all.. 'im excited!'

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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Looks mad ! Razz Shame you wont see it when its all together hehe
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Thu, 13 March 2003 13:32

Big!



http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_cf3a54c022ef652372cb633fcedff9d1/i-1.JPGhttp://

nahhh...you think.. ?? Razz

ill ty and get a cammed throttle cable adapter to run it eh?!!

ed

edit: 80% increase in surface area... minus the cross sectional area of the plate and shaft at WOT (cause you have 2). basically the same as an 80mm throttle body, but youll get higher port velocities, and better flow control at smaller throttle deflections.

should be interesting

[Updated on: Thu, 13 March 2003 03:39]

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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oooh, that nice Smile
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
another sexy image :

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/0302MM_Interchange104zoom.jpg
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So, mill back Y piece, weld on mounting plate for Ford TB, match port and off you go?
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
exactly.

just got home and measured it all up... fits PERFECTLY. almost made for it.

the Y pipe runner internal dia is 51mm (but when i mill a face on the Y section, they will be cut slightly oblique, so they will be an elipse of 51mm (high) by about 54mm (wide).

the spacing between the t/b butterflies and the section of Y pipe where ill cut it down too is damn near perfect, and the overall dimensions fit up well, seeminglyno fouling of other members such as rocker covers etc...

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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i should add...

did a quick bit of maths on the fractional opening SA of the throttle plates to look at how much of a difference there is at low angles and WOT etc etc...

basically, at low angles of throttle, the twin 57mm has 70% more open surface area than the original single 60mm. compare this to an 80mm single throttle body which has 90% more open SA at low angles compared to stock 60mm.

HOWEVER, at WOT, the twin 57mm setup has 80% greater open SA compared to stock single, and this is actually the SAME as a single 80mm.

so, basically, it'll still be a mild bitch for normal street driving, but nowhere near as bad as a single 80mm t/b, but at WOT it should flow number VERY similar to an 80mm - best of both worlds really. then theres the advantages of higher port speeds etc which im yet to look at too hard...

i really have to look harder into adapting a cammed throttle cable onto it i think Razz

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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So what sort of inlet pipe do you need to connect to that Confused
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pretty awesome.

Makes me sad i gave up on the twin TB path Sad

You shall report all findings.

Now did that cost you a pretty penny being off the 'cobra' or is itoff the run of the mill mustang (falcon).
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glen - its a bonafide Cobra Mach 1 4.6L V8 (305hp?) throttle body. 2001 model.

i managed to find one on EBay nice and cheap, so is pretty good all 'round.

Shane - NFI is the answer, ill figure out the piping once ie got it together. i suspect some homemade fibreglass and some custom tubing will be involved.

but i suspect its going to be worth it Very Happy

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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah from my recent trip to the states you could say

mustang = falcon (common as hell)
cobra = GT Falcon (pretty uncommon)
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Re: AHaaa!!! throttle body found!!! Thu, 13 March 2003 13:30 Go to previous message
Good for you, mate! That's one of my "down the track" things...A twin throttle-body setup on the 1UZ...and your numbers make some kind of sense to even the mathematical "never-weres" among us! Smile

(I guess for that you should read: Sound engineering has it's roots more in common-sense, than in pure numbers, and that isn't a dig...)
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