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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Thu, 20 March 2003 00:35
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Can someone confirm that it's a bad rumour?
Have emissions laws killed the SR20DET (and, therefore, the 200SX).
Please say it ain't so!!
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 00:50
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Yes it's true. This is old news, I remember this being discussed on performanceforums months ago!
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 01:04
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NoooOOOooooo!!!!
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 01:38
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Dude, if they can revive the Z car, they can revive the Silvia 
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne.victoria.austra...
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June 2002
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 08:46
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so, what do the new emissions standards do to screw the 20v and the sr/rb series?
besides, it's about time nissan came out with another motor (although admittedly, the sr20 and rb26 are amazing engines)
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Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 12:20
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Well what motor is running their sexy new Z then?
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 13:46
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VQ35, 206kW/216kW Naturally Aspirated 3.5l Quad-Cam 24v V6
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne.victoria.austra...
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June 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 21:10
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draven, something along the lines of cold start emissions - have to be within a certain level after a set amount of time, the 4age 20v runs way rich on startup which it would fail these emissions.
dunno why they didn't lean it at startup, or, get the CAT hotter quicker?
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June 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 22:21
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Ok,
So what are elphin, westfield, PBR and more importantly what am I going to put in my Locost that I might build 
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Sun, 23 March 2003 01:17
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| Nark wrote on Thu, 20 March 2003 12:04 |
NoooOOOooooo!!!!
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They've also killed the RB series engines too I think.. hence the R35 Skylines
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GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Sun, 23 March 2003 01:52
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WTF hey I knew the SR-20 and RB's were on their way out due to emissions about 12 months ago, but does this mean the ceasation of NEW cars being produced with these engines and/or the transplanting of these engines into cars ie. engine conversions with one of these engines here in Australia will not be able to be approved???? Me very very worried now!!! 
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Sun, 23 March 2003 02:20
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as per the current regulations on engine emissions..
the engine you put in the car must meet the emissions standards for the year of production of the car. so there will be no problems using them for transplants, as they have already passed emissions (as they were an aus-delivered engine).
the RB26 might be a different matter ... as I'm not sure if GTRs were aus-delivered.
if not, one they're in the car they have to pass an emissions test (which can be challengine with ecu, turbo, exhaust mods)
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GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Sun, 23 March 2003 05:38
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Didn't the R32 GTR's make it to Aust????? Or at least a small number of them??
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Sun, 23 March 2003 06:49
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as I said, dont know
if they did, you could probably sneak a later model rb26 through engineering by saying it was out of an r32
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Location:
Eskilstuna, Sweden
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Sun, 23 March 2003 14:05
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| draven wrote on Sun, 23 March 2003 13:20 |
as per the current regulations on engine emissions..
the engine you put in the car must meet the emissions standards for the year of production of the car.
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Just like to clear this up slightly, I believe draven is saying year of production of the donor car. So if you put a 1994 20v in your 1983 Sprinter you will have to meet 1994 emissions standards.
Just another little step to add to your project. Unless of course your car is from pre 1971!
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Location:
Launceston, Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Sun, 23 March 2003 22:43
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there were 100 R32's released in austrlaia
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June 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Tue, 25 March 2003 07:30
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Supra 1JZ and 2JZ as well as 13BT are also being stoppped.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Tue, 25 March 2003 11:02
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supra 2jz is dead anyhows. Stopped production ... 1999?
I'm hoping toyota come out with a new supra, and a new rwd celica would be nice (ir at least, "mid priced rwd sprots car")
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GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Tue, 25 March 2003 13:54
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Funny you should mention that dude.... apparently Toyota has developed an all new engine and it is supposed to be for use on RWD drive configuration.... it is however N/A and the figures below look like it is a SCREAMER engine.. well that's what I call engines that you have to thrash the SHIZNIT out of to get them moving.
2362cc 210ps@7000rpm and 221Nm@4000rpm
The size of the engine would point to a smallish Celica sized car.. hopefully a coupe and RWD.... could we be seeing the comeback of RWD??? Lets hope so!
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Tue, 25 March 2003 15:13
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Where did you find that Speedcore? Judging by the capacity its probably a version of the 2AZ-FE in the new Camry.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Tue, 25 March 2003 18:37
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now all it needs is a roller bearing turbo hanging off the side
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June 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Tue, 25 March 2003 22:12
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IS2000/Altezza is their "small RWD" chassis. Most likely will go in that car. 220ps is not so good when the 350z makes 280ps.
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GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Wed, 26 March 2003 02:47
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itsnotagsr: Seriously man the 350Z is a 3.5L V6 is it not????
We are talking about a four pot 2.4L Toyota engine... that by the loks of it will end up in a NEW designed sports coupe, and I think the focus of this car will be on handling rather than outright power... but yeah... BB turbo on the side 
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Location:
Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 27 March 2003 10:45
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since the sr20's will be slowing down in importation volume in a few years every datto 1600 will be getting a conversion before that time.
the skylines are to be getting a 3.5 v6
they will no longer be called a R3X skyline GTR
the next is to be a R35 GTR, thats it.
still make the 206kw but not sure on aspiration
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Location:
Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Thu, 27 March 2003 11:18
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2.4 ? Dont tell me they are bringing back a fully riced 22r!!
that would be fully siiiic
! * joking *
Id heard rumours of this new celica too - i think its aimed at the Teggy type R - still FWD though as far as im lead to believe
Caldina wagons are coming out with a GT 4 version - so lets hope to CHRIST they actually bring back a Celica Gt4 and go WRX hunting
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At work :(
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June 2002
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Re: RIP 200SX?
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Fri, 28 March 2003 03:22
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I think Toyota will struggle if the bring out the GT4 again. IN the early nineties, the Celica was a pretty big seller, plus they had the rally heritage. Now they arent very inspiring, nor have any sporting attachment. The 205 sold at 80K! Bit out of WRX league.
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