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Mon, 24 March 2003 08:45
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Well, after 9 or so months of headaches, shitfights and near bankruptcy many times, the old girl has been bought back to life....so to speak.
After a couple of small problems with the distributer and Motec software, it hit the rollers on Thursday.
1st run = 196.5rwhp @ 8 psi
2nd run = 227rwhp @ 12psi
3rd run = 240.8rwhp @ 14psi
4th run = 250.4rwhp @ 14.5psi (spent a bit more time tuning at this boost level as this is what i am currently running)
5th run (on Friday arvo) = 307rwhp @ 18psi
Problem with this is the turbos are pushing way too much air for the motor to swallow (ie, compresor surge big time!), and it gets worse with more boost. Hence the reason its on 14psi now. Next mod is either a Ford 65mm throttle body, or Commo 75mm, and 5 litre intake plenum. Unfortunately, this wont be done before the nationals 
It is now fucking awsome to drive, turns the tires in the 1st 3 gears very easily  .
I have 3 or 4 of the graphs on a disc, but i cant open them due to me not having the program to do it  .
Hopefully before the nationals it will see 270-280hp with a few more "fiddlings".
Huge thanks go to "Dyno" Dave Flood and Dave Loftus from Redline Motorsport (Dyno Daves tuning is second to none), James at Grooverider Fabrications (his work is on display in the engine bay, does awsome job), Aaron at AWA Automotive for the bodywork.........
There are heaps of other people to thank, but these come to mind straight away.....many thanks to everyone else that helped out.....
....especially my girlfriend for puting up with my shit, always there with words of encouragement every time i was ready to put a match to the f@%#ing thing...... 
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Mon, 24 March 2003 08:52
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yay!
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Mon, 24 March 2003 11:08
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Good stuff Phil, glad to hear you came up with a good result
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Mon, 24 March 2003 11:08
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Here Here for Dyno Dave, the man's legend - I still owe him many cans of Beam and cola for all the saturday night tuneups !!!!
Dave if your reading - start another business and bring some cred back to the sydney dyno tuning scene !
Great effort Phil, cant wait to see it in person.
Matt
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Mon, 24 March 2003 11:23
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Very impressive. Good to hear you got the bugs sorted with the Motec.
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Mon, 24 March 2003 11:32
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went for a ride in this car yesterday and FAR OUT! .. it pulls hard. Bout time it was backj onthe road and as long as this baby doesn't feel attracted to short term real estate, it should be a weapon of choice for years to come.
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Mon, 24 March 2003 11:47
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Woohoo! Sounds awesome dude!!! 
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Mon, 24 March 2003 11:48
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Sounds awesome...
Wouldnt mind a geeze oneday 
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Mon, 24 March 2003 19:41
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Good shit man! I've been waiting to hear the rusults, and they're fucking impressive! Now I wanna see the thing.
So, hear about the cruise this saturday? 
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Mon, 24 March 2003 21:29
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WHOOAA Sounds crazy! But what car is that in?? (Sorry, Im new)
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Mon, 24 March 2003 23:12
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1G-GTE RA23.
Great work Phill!! Can't wait to see it at Dubbo!
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Tue, 25 March 2003 00:19
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DAMMMNN!!!! 1G make that much power??? Crazy!!!
Dubbo? when is that? Ive never been. The supra club considered going, but realised its like 5 hours from Sydney!
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Tue, 25 March 2003 00:41
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congrats phil!
hopefully this will mean we'll see you around more
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Tue, 25 March 2003 00:54
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Tue, 25 March 2003 11:19 |
DAMMMNN!!!! 1G make that much power??? Crazy!!!
Dubbo? when is that? Ive never been. The supra club considered going, but realised its like 5 hours from Sydney!
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i am no austrlian geographical buff... but i think dubbo is quiet a lot more than 5 hours from syd...
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Tue, 25 March 2003 01:09
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U bunch of pussies ... dubbo is 5 hours max away if u drive at the speed limit. Thats not far, tell the supra club to pull their fingers out and come for a little drive! haha.
its 414km's from the centre of sydney to dubbo, trust me i used to live there.
Best time, 2am-5:30am in my sprinter 4agze. Mind u i know the roads damn well and u make all the time up if u can get from castle hill to lithgow in an hour.
Anyhow... when we leave for dubbo as a group.. i'm gonna be doing the speed limit all the way, and not below, last time we went to dubbo it took way to friggen long. If u wanna go slow , eg 70 in a 100 zone, u can form your own groups. Phill and i will be up the front not holding up the traffic!
Luke
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Tue, 25 March 2003 01:14
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yay! phil ya gunna be there on saturday?
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Tue, 25 March 2003 01:19
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| thunderbird1 wrote on Tue, 25 March 2003 12:09 |
Anyhow... when we leave for dubbo as a group.. i'm gonna be doing the speed limit all the way, and not below, last time we went to dubbo it took way to friggen long. If u wanna go slow , eg 70 in a 100 zone, u can form your own groups. Phill and i will be up the front not holding up the traffic!
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no worries Luke... for this reason Joel's unofficial cruise down is going to be casual and everyone will travel at their own pace (so there won't be large numbers trying to travel together)
in fact i think there are going to be a couple of leaving times so the groups should be smallish
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Tue, 25 March 2003 02:23
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What, only 300hp at the treads
Only joking, awesome effort mate. By my calculations, thats double the power of my 1G, not too shabby.
So where do I sign
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Tue, 25 March 2003 04:23
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very nice phil
I remember last time it was on the road... with your driving, that thing should be absolutely terrifying
you must have a very understanding girlfriend
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Tue, 25 March 2003 06:13
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Thanks guys, i am pleased with the results to say the least!!
i might turn up at the meeting place on saturday, but not for the cruise......got too much on my plate at the moment.....
Oh, and what is a PCX file?? Cos thats what the dyno graphs are.... 
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Tue, 25 March 2003 06:27
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a .pcx file is an image file. If you have MS imaging (installed with windows I think) it should be able to open it, if not try some of the other image programs you have, you are bound to have one.
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Tue, 25 March 2003 06:57
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Ive tried everything, but still no go....damn it!!
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Tue, 25 March 2003 07:06
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See - now this is why i want a 23/28 with a Gee in it for my future fun car
I mean the GT4 is awesome - but it doesnt have the " fark this old car shouldnt be going so fast " feel about it
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Tue, 25 March 2003 08:17
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Phill, send files to me:
giant_tomato@yahoo.com
I'll convert them to JPG or BMP for you.
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Tue, 25 March 2003 09:17
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Listen,
thanks for blowin me friggin eardrums out phillip. Car sounds aweomse.. enough to scare anyone within ear shot, (which is about 500km radius). By the way, thanks to your girlfriend, what was her name again?? hahaha
NiCK...
FLU77R...
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Tue, 25 March 2003 10:20
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congrats man, wanna see the pics of your goodness
justin
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Tue, 25 March 2003 22:56
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Phill, send the pic to me.
I'll convert it for ya.
Nick, don't mention his girlfriend man. And stop hanging around him, he might be arrested for paedophillia one day... It might reflect badly on you if you're seen with him often... 
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Wed, 26 March 2003 05:03
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Max,
The graphs are on a disc......if there is a meeting b4 nationals, i will give it to you there.
The car is up on stands again.....getting a turbo rebuilt and the diff rebuilt with new limo centre and 3.7 gears.......
im sick of spending money on cars........
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Wed, 26 March 2003 05:09
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What happened to the turbo?!?!
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Wed, 26 March 2003 07:40
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| FLU77R wrote on Tue, 25 March 2003 20:17 |
By the way, thanks to your girlfriend, what was her name again?? hahaha
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Bugger that.. I'll take his sister 
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Wed, 26 March 2003 07:42
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sister?
you must bring her along to the next meet
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Wed, 26 March 2003 08:14
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well... karina ay?? - now whos the paedophile?? hahahaah
Nark - Why do u think me and Phil get on so well? 
NiCkk...
FLU77R..
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Wed, 26 March 2003 08:18
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haha Nick you dirty bastard.
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Wed, 26 March 2003 08:29
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How much did it cost for the tune?
Was it from base maps or already partially tuned?
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Wed, 26 March 2003 10:32
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Paul,
Dyno time was $440 (includes GST). There was bout 5 hours worth in total i think. That was from starting the motor to final tune.
This may seem like alot to some people, but i was prepared to pay double that just cos dave knows what he is doing, whereas alot of other tuners rely on guess work
The turbo was burning oil, i didnt blow it up. But if i didnt get it fixed, it would have gone thru at least 10 litres over the nats weekend....it was that bad.
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Thu, 27 March 2003 05:45
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mmmmm.........nice curves
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Thu, 27 March 2003 05:46
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mmmm torque
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Thu, 27 March 2003 06:19
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Nice.......
The power curve just goes up, and up, and up! 
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Thu, 27 March 2003 08:01
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Yes nice curves!
So, can someone finally clear this up for me????
Traction is getting 1250LB of torque, what does that work out to be in Newton metres? I've been trying to find the formula for years!
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Thu, 27 March 2003 08:26
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http://www.metrication.com/
A good convertor site
Hey Nark, gettin envy yet?
Damn doods - I'd like to break 200hp ATM...
no boost yet tho ($$$)
I love that power curve! I had something like that once - when you can get the traction, you getinto a long gear, and you just get pushed back, and head for light speed!
Very soothing feeling.
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Thu, 27 March 2003 09:02
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Guys,
Torque will ALWAYS increase at the wheels, not decrease! This is due to the ratio of the diff gears (in my case 3.9:1).
1250lb/3.9 = 320lb @ flywheel (in theory, and only with what i think it should be)
Now, 320foot/lb = ~ 433nm @ flywheel.....which seems to be about right.
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Thu, 27 March 2003 09:57
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| TRACTION_ISSUES wrote on Thu, 27 March 2003 20:02 |
Guys,
Torque will ALWAYS increase at the wheels, not decrease! This is due to the ratio of the diff gears (in my case 3.9:1).
1250lb/3.9 = 320lb @ flywheel (in theory, and only with what i think it should be)
Now, 320foot/lb = ~ 433nm @ flywheel.....which seems to be about right.
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.....provided the run was done in fourth (1:1) gear. Any other (lower) gear will also result in multiplication of torque.
Impressive nonetheless.
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Thu, 27 March 2003 10:34
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yeah, twas all done in 4th
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Thu, 27 March 2003 14:52
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excellent point
can see how well my mind is working tonight
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Fri, 28 March 2003 01:27
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Wooohooo! I'm getting 520Nm of torque then!
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Fri, 28 March 2003 07:31
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Things just keep getting better.............NOT!!!
Picked up the turbo from garrett today, all nice and rebuilt looking pretty......the bastards sandblasted the ceramic coating off the exhaust housing !!!! Needless to say im PISSED!!! Which means that it wont be back on the road until at least next saturday/sunday.......gawd, why do i bother?!
Oh, and the diff is completely shagged......theres another $900 to get it built......
Bloody hell.......
Paul...
thats PHAT torque!!.....wish i had an extra 1000cc to play with
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Fri, 28 March 2003 10:57
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Damn man, you know how inspiring that is for me?
That sounds fucking awesome, I would kill to see the car.
Can you give me a run down of the specs of the car - Motor, turbos, ignition system, fuel system, gearbox, brakes, clutch driveshaft and diff?
Would be most apprecaited.
and check your pm's there dude, I've got a message for ya
Keep it up man.
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Fri, 28 March 2003 21:03
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Strad,
Thanks mate!!
Motor - bone stock internals 1GGTE (with 170,000km!)
Turbos - R33 GTR T28's with steel exhaust wheels (as i bought them)
Ignition - Bosch 008 ignition module running single Bosch coil, 1GGE distributer (M48 Motec ECU)
Fuel - 7MGTE injectors, 3/8" fuel lines, Malapassi rising rate regulater, 600hp Bosch pressure pump, Facet (crap) lift pump, 2 x high flow 3/8" filters, 2.3 litre surge tank
G/box - standard W58, with short shifter
Clutch - 5 puck solid brass button, 630kg pressure plate
Brakes - Hilux/ Corona setup at front, Hilux drums at back
Driveshaft - 3" single piece
Diff - shortened Hilux, 3.7 gears, LSD
I will find out the alternater wiring today for you....
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Fri, 28 March 2003 22:16
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Damn man, your making me envious
I thought I was gonna be the one with the biggest turbo on the 1g, but maybe not, given your two maybe larger than my one!
what intercooler?
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Sat, 29 March 2003 04:58
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Intecooler is garrett bar and plate core, 450x300x90mm
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Sat, 29 March 2003 06:51
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Can i interest you in a mint condition 93 GTi?.
Has half the power, but also half the headaches
Hey Nark, i like little girls
NiCK...
FLU77R...
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Sat, 29 March 2003 07:12
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Try a quarter of the power
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Sun, 30 March 2003 01:33
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try a quarter of your mum
NiCk..
FLU77R
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Wed, 02 April 2003 07:06
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Turbo is back on (arsehole of a job!), dump pipe on, etc, etc
Just waiting on the diff.......gears had to come from WA!
SHOULD be on the road by Saturday arvo.....
Oh, and some nice adjustable cam gears are on too.....going back on the dyno next week some time
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Wed, 02 April 2003 22:48
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How are my injectors treating you? How close are they to the right size? 6x440's should be good for about 520hp... assuming a 25% driveline loss, you should hav a fair bit left in them (390rwhp). Sounds like they're spot on, should give fairly good economy too.
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Wed, 02 April 2003 22:51
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Hey why do you need to run a 1GGE dizzy?
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Thu, 03 April 2003 09:10
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Lee,
The injectors are great, currently running at about 53% duty cycle.......fuck all really .
Actually, the whole fuel system is a bit on the large size....but anyway..
The 1GGE dizzy is a garden variety electronic dizzy, whereas the GTE one has a double ended rotor button, that houses 2 diodes.....and will only ever fire the 1st 3 cylinders when used with an aftermarket ECU
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