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4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Mon, 17 June 2002 09:01
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Does anyone have a 4AGE bellhousing from a sprinter?
Better yet does anyone have a T50 Gearbox ffrom a sprinter..
Im also looking for a Sprinter Diff and tailshaft.
thanx Heaps...
Adam
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Mon, 17 June 2002 21:11
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I have a T50 from a 4AGE sprinter.
$250.. but i'm in melbourne..
the postage would be around the $50 mark at a guess.
if you want it i'd post it up for $250. (so it'd cost you $200 for gbox/50 for postage)
I dunno what kinda condittion it is in though.
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Mon, 17 June 2002 22:29
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i have a t50 4age bellhousing - check the 4age & 3sge parts list in the for-sale section.
T
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Sat, 22 June 2002 07:08
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Just a question but whats the difference between 4ac and 4ag bell housing, arn't they the same?
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Sat, 22 June 2002 12:16
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Matt: true 4ac and 4ag bellhousings are not the same,but either can be used behind any a series engine.
the oz-spec bellhousing is from an ae85 (look for the "3A" marking on it next time you have the box out),like the rest of the car is,where the 4AG b'housing is a little different:it runs the clutch fork out of the O/S of the gearbox,so it's away from the exhaust.
Justin...
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Sat, 22 June 2002 14:44
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thanx fergo never knew that...
ill have a look for the 3a but hopefully I won't get the opertunity again for some time hehe
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Sun, 23 June 2002 13:45
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Since when were aus spec sprinters ae85's?
I'm yet to see an ae85 on the road in Aus..
All i've seen are 4ac and 4age ae86s..
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Sun, 23 June 2002 20:56
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| fOOZ86 wrote on Sun, 23 June 2002 11:45 PM |
Since when were aus spec sprinters ae85's?
I'm yet to see an ae85 on the road in Aus..
All i've seen are 4ac and 4age ae86s..
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it's widely acknowledged that the oz-spec AE86 is in fact an AE85,with the 4AC instead of a 3AC. the 100c larger engine is the only part of our cars that differs.
the open diff,solid disc front,drum rear,interior spec,no power mirrors or windows,and the lack of climate control all are ae85 items.
the car is STAMPED AE86,but it was built as an AE85.
stamped 6 for the 1600cc lump,over the 1500 that the JDM ae85 has.
Justin...
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Mon, 24 June 2002 02:14
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I disagree.
The engine makes the car, dosen't it?
ae85 = 3A
ae86 = 4A
the spec of the brakes,interior, climate control, etc would come down to the grade, weather it be a GT or a GTAPEX. because according to toyota, if it's got a 4a, it's an ae86, if it's got a 3a, it's an ae85.
There are different grades for ae85/ae86's, the GTV, GT APEX, GT are all ae86's (with the 4age or 4ac). The GL, SR and the SE are all ae85s (with the 3au).
So Yes, the Sprinter isn't a GT APEX or GTV, but it's not an ae85 either.
Grant.
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Mon, 24 June 2002 08:24
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does any one know the size of the diff of a AE86(sprinter)??
I need it becuase i was going to buy one for my KE30 4AGE(hopefully NOS).
Thanx Adam
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Re: 4AGE Bellhousing (Sprinter)
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Mon, 24 June 2002 09:02
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Grant: you're the only person on this forum that I know of that believes that,but hey,that's your right.
I personally don't believe the car is a true ae86 unless it left the factory with a twin cam,but that is just me being picky. either way,the car is still fun.
Adam: I am pretty sure the sprinter diff is an "S" series.
the open oz-spec (ae85) diffs are 6.4",where the JDM LSDs are 6.7". both are bloody small.
if you're considering serious power in the future,and/or abusing the car,I'd be looking at getting a conversion done using something stronger,like a borg warner unit.
Justin...
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Mon, 24 June 2002 15:32
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damn! this thread needs to be moved to tech: anyway;
I have been in/friend owns an AE85 Trueno "hachi go" as I bag him. (yes from initial_D.) It is no different to AE86: it now has 4AG, and Oz diff. (But guages slightly different(no oil pressure))
Anyway, being tech and all that,
AE85 never had an option of the rear swaybar I think. AE86 has rear swaybar as standard.
More curious than any of the AE85/AE86 talk is that Oz got 'Trueno Sprinter' tail lights not the ugly IMO Levin tail lights.
Back to more AE85/AE86 difference:
Some AE85 w/ 3A have a cable clutch and K50 gearbox, or at least my friend's did. I think the US AE85 SR5 has hydraulic clutch and T50 like Oz AE86, but no rear sway bar.
Toyota Australia picked the equipment level and drivetrain to meets is price range and target market. MR2 was the death knell I feel for the AE86 Twin Cam. If they didn't release them/ have them in the planning stage, then releasing the 4AG AE86 in mass production would have matched the soon to be released N12 Pulsar and aging Cordia. Pity they never released both, but red tape on import numbers would be a likely factor. Tho I fear the price of AE86 GT Apex. LSD optional and all that and it would be reaching $16-20K I guess around 1986. Though thinking more, Toyota may have never planned to keep the AE86 in production till '87: may have been a deciding factor as well.
I think it best said that Toyota Australia had two things on its mind when deciding on what to release: Bathurst, and a small sports coupe to match Nissan's EXA/Gazelle, Mitsubishi's scorpion/cordia/starion (as in late 83/early 84).
At the $12,000 sale price, it was more expensive than some of the others (and poor equipment as standard) but rode highly on Toyota's reputation of build quality and reliability. Then they raced it at bathurt to show it was a sport's car WITH reliability. They raced the Celica's until '84 where the TRD cars raced well, but beaten buy the Bob Holden Motorsport entries (using OZ delivered AE86 built using many TRD parts). First year released and they raced it at bathurst with factory support. (There is a GOOD chance i may be wrong on this point, but it is MY opinion)
I prefer to think of the Oz Sprinter as an AE85.5. Not quite AE86, but not an AE85. (Thankfully we didn't get AE85's. We'd be needing hyraulic clutch conversion: searching for 'late' T50: needing 'F' or 'T' diffs: and a 4AG) I doubt the Sprinter would still be as popular as it is today if it really was a AE85.
Jaz
Sorry for the essay, but a few things to say.
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