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Looking for a new car to mod?
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Mon, 17 June 2002 22:05
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Those who are after some cheap performance should take note of this...
I was driving home the other night when I happened to stop at the lights beside a new Toyota Echo, still adapting to the new clutch and flywheel I am having to give it a few revs off the standing start so as not to stall the car now that the brass button is in. 
Anyway the guy in the Echo must have thought that I was wanting to race so he started to give it a caneing, doing my usual trick I let him go a bit holding the engine at 4500rpm waiting for him to change before I floored it past him......
but he just kept reving so I put the boot right in, it was a very close thing through all the gears and it was only after breaking the speed limit a couple of times over that I finally pulled him back and got in front. Im sure the bloke was having a good laugh because he very nearly pipped me, which would have been a little embarassing had I not had Rod in the car with me...we just looked at each other not believing how much power these little cars had. 
So in the near future I can see a whole lot of these cheap little cars getting a few minor upgrades and being quite competitive in the class range, they are definately not something to dismiss quickly from a traffic light drag 
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Mon, 17 June 2002 22:16
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Haven't investigated this closely, but I believe there's already a few performance upgrades available for the Echos. hmmmm... Quad Throttles 
(Not that I'd admit it if i was beaten by one!!)
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Sydney, NSW
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Tue, 18 June 2002 00:04
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I'll give an echo a run anyday... It all depends on the driver and most of us won't have to be sitting at the lights on a few revs... Can the Echo win???  ... hehehe...
A few mates and myself tried bagging an echo up but it didn't work... We sat it on about 5000rpm and dumped it and it died in the arse end... That was only a stocker though...
Michael, was it a sportivo model that u raced??? They usually go a LITTLE bit harder...
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Brisbane, QLD, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Tue, 18 June 2002 01:13
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Good ol' vvti.
Yes, those echo's can go hard.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Tue, 18 June 2002 03:46
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Note to self: Add another car to list not to race..... 
Urgh the list gets bigger and bigger every day!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Eastern Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Tue, 18 June 2002 08:50
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there's something wrong with your sprinter if an echo kept up Mike.
I drive the little rattle tins daily,they're nothing to get excited about.
Justin...
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Tue, 18 June 2002 10:44
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The Sportivo ones with the "big-block" 1.5 in the three door body may be alright...
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I supported Toymods
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Perth WA
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May 2002
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Tue, 18 June 2002 10:46
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Didn't TOP SECRET turbo one to do 14's?
The ultimate "Q" car. It would really piss off the standard Falcodore brigade.
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Myrtleford Victoria
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June 2002
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Tue, 18 June 2002 11:58
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Sportivo.... Weighs next to nothin, 85kw = fast for a economical lil bEAST!
I gave a guy a run in a hONDA (accliam??) around some very twistie curly stuff, he nearly lost it... came up to have a big look later
and said What is that thing !!!???? Looks like a shopping trolly! ( I think his missus is stil in shock) We run 17" chromies+low profile and very little other than a 2.5" straight thru from the resonator box...
very kick arse small & Tall 
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Myrtleford Victoria
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June 2002
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Tue, 18 June 2002 12:04
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They aint cheap !!! Our Echo Sportivo was $21k+
VVTI 4 Valves per pot, efi 2" system air yadda yadda
they are rare, and kick arse : )
Cheers
Darryl
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Sydney, NSW
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Tue, 18 June 2002 13:25
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Thats right!!! Echo's weigh jack shit compared to Rolla's or Sprinter's or whatever... Yeah, I think Top Secret did run close to those times... But WHY??? I'm not knocking the echo's, but comparing it to the other projects that Top Secret have... If you look at the Supra, Skyline and the other per4mance cars, you'd prob think the same...
It probably would have been a Honda Accord... An Acclaim is a Commodore model...
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Club President
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Wed, 19 June 2002 05:32
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What do you mean you caught up.... You got flogged !!
Nah Just Kidding
Not sure what model Echo it was but It did surprise me ! It was Black with vvti on the back if that helps. And the Guy driving it was really skinny so he had a weight advantage 
Definatly went for what I was expecting to be a gutless buzz box !
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 05:37
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Got flogged!!!??? If i didnt have to carry your fat arse ( as well as my own) Id have been way out in front 
Next time I wont be waiting for him to change gear and maybe ill have the launch sorted
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Club President
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 05:43
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Hey its not my arse thats fat thanks very much its a short ways up from there on the other side lol ! If my Gut gets any bigger I think I'll name it !
And alright you may have suffered from excessive wheelspin on take off I still got to read the back tailgate on the Echo tho  (Or was that as we pulled up to the red light ??? )
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 06:12
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Im not sure when you saw the badge but if it was from behind I did a pretty good job hauling him back in dont you think
I though you allready named your belly.....isnt that why everyone calls you bitch or do they call you that for your late night conversion antics 
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Club President
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 06:18
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Hey last Conversion I went to you were the one on your back 
Besides how did you really damage your knee ?
I suppose for a 4AGE it did do a good job to catch up. Mind you if you'd had a 2TG in that thing you would have flogged it
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 06:25
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Im always on my back, you guys just think im working under there when really Im sleeping ( it was early in the morning ) youll see when Scrote drives down the road and the gear selector drops off
Dont know why youre asking about my knee??? you were kneeling in front of me when it happened
My 4AGE still goes faster than your 2TG in the car shown in your avatar
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Club President
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Sydney
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 06:40
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My engine bay may be empty but to be fair I'll borrow Tina's car. A girls car verses a Girls car ! hahahaha
And as for kneeling... If you had of come out from under the car before opening your mouth I wouldn't have had to 
But anyway... How about those Echo's ! 
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Wed, 19 June 2002 06:49
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Ok so youve deteriorated this thread to its lowest level, well im not going to lower myself down to you mainly because i cant get up off my knees anymore , but more so because its beneath me to tease people who drive hairdressers cars....or worse...someone who has to borrow a hair dressers car because there own hairdressers car lost its blow factor
Im gona scan that zoom article now and post it up
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Club President
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Sydney
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 07:01
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Who deteriorated the thread ???
Oh and my level is about 5'8" not waist high like yours
Hairdressers cars....At least its not a Shopping Trolley ! Besides who needs blow factor with you around  BTW he's not really yawning...Just doing hi exercises !
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 07:26
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Maybe you guys should get a room.... one with padded walls would be good.
Alex
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NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Looking for a new car to mod?
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Wed, 19 June 2002 07:40
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BTW....I saw a red Echo this arvo with an intercooler in the front of it.....it had those new European style plates and a nice set of wheels......was heading south on Silverwater road
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