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I supported Toymods
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Wed, 02 April 2003 09:11
 
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very nice, what are all the spikes in power from?
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Wed, 02 April 2003 09:19
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spikes are from the HARD shifts.This jolts the dyno plus giving a VERY high reading.
this is how g tech meters also give a very high reading .but they cannot be filtered out on a gtech
for a true power run we normally do them in a single gear run but if you ignore the spikes .the power figures Are VERY accurate the quoted figure is a HOLD power figure
the power reading would be a little high in comparison to the toymods dyno day results .as it was damn cold with about a 4 klm cooling run before power runs
as a matter of fact tempersture compensation can be added .so with temps like those in the dyno shed on the day this figure would be more like 135 kw @ wheels
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Wed, 02 April 2003 22:41
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Am I reading it correctly to get 170rwkw? Have not seen a dyno like this one before 
A friend ran a bit over 205rwhp and ran 14.2@9x at the drags on a stock auto. Not sure what mine had but I ran 13.7@100 with the auto (3" exhaust and a bleed valve) and later after a bit more fine tuning and a manual conversion (also added K&N filter) I ran 13.7@103mph
I would have to estimate that I'd have more like 210-220rwhp based on those results... somewhere in that region anyway. Seems pretty similar to what Supraman has. Maybe some tuning issues... what mods are done?
Oh, and the 205rwhp was dyno'd by Dom Rigoli, as far as I know they're quite genuine with their power figures.
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Wed, 02 April 2003 23:49
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what kind of dyno is this?
im gussing its some kind of gtec device?
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 00:39
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7M-Brisbane I think you'll find its the 1 in 500 3000GT car with a few extra features over the standard 7mgte from the factory. Im led to beleive this car was stock when landed, correct me if im wrong.
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 04:11
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Kristian dropped in last night to pick up a part.
Must admit Black is sexy! Not sure about the TRD stickers, but whatever floats your boat.
Didn't noticed the front guards were pumped. Will have to have a closer look. Has same front bar and intercooler as my '91 GT (havn't taken out intercooler yet, I wanna use it!)
7M with a MAP sensor is fucking awesome! Be able to switch it to all the big computers.
Kristian was impressed with my new exhaust note 
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 06:05
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Let me tell you guys, celicamad knows his stuff. If anyone wants to know how to get more power out of their engine, talk to this guy. He knows more about 1JZGTE engines than most people, and doesnt talk shit. He owns two cars with 1JZ transplants, and POWER is his best friend. He knows how to make it, and runs his 1J's efficiently, performing SMART modifications, which produce BIG power, whilst still preserving the life of the engine. This guy does his homework, and celicamad will be helping me transform the Turbo-A into a leathal road weapon. Yes, ist int a 1J, but it'll be one damn good 7MGTE 
celicamad----> thanks for your time and help with the dyno and all the information you threw at me. My brain is still trying to remember it all !!!
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 06:20
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So lets make this clear, it is a standard Turbo-A 7MGTE with NO aftermarket modifications. All the other stuff, like ecu, larger turbo and different head gasket, map sensor and other stuff are Toyota factory Turbo-A stuff. . The exhaust is even 2.5 inch, down into 2 inch. ALOT of improvement needed there. New 3 inch exhaust being fitted next week.
BlackSupra---> Yes, you are right. Stock as a rock, and there was only 500 of them ever made by Toyota Japan.
celicamad---> installed boost guage, she runs between 5 to 6psi boost. Lets see what power we get when she hits 14psi !!
rvrolla----> I took 90% of the stickers off that were on it last week. Only two turd  TRD stickers left, plus a few www.japanperformancedirect.com.au as well.
HKSPete----> WHY cant my exhaust sound like yours !!! I WANT I WANT
7M-Brisbane--->this converted to 217rwHP, with no mods. I'm happy !!
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 07:16
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| SUPRA MAN wrote on Thu, 03 April 2003 16:20 |
rvrolla----> I took 90% of the stickers off that were on it last week. Only two turd TRD stickers left, plus a few www.japanperformancedirect.com.au as well.
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Look better now? Not as cluttered? Ya need to show off that Turbo A sticker dude!!
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 07:22
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yeah, definatly looks better.
I have realised graphics have to be done by a professional, other wise they can look shite.
Yes, mine looked shite  !!
Alot better now.
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 08:48
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this engine is definatley NO 1j
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Love that comment!
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 10:37
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me too!
although looking at paul's power figures.. well, it shits all over my 1j
ecu and boost controller should somewhat rectify that problem tho
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 10:38
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yes the dyno plus is much like a gtech only far more accurate
power is almost identical to toymods dyno (tested)
0-100 and 1/4 mile have been varified at eastern creek as DEAD accurate
the power figure was 160kw @ wheels .Its actually printed on the bottom of the graph
Potentially this engine will make quite good power .but its all relative to how much boost the factory ecu will map and injector size etc .
the graph is wierd looking as we didnt have time to do individual power runs .the spikes are gear changes
im not sure but i seriously doubt that that 14 psi will be possible from an engine designed to run 6 psi in stock form .
im pretty sure youll find this engine runs a little higher compression ratio that a 1j so 14 psi would not be likely
if anyone has any stats on this engine(not just any 7mgte)
i would love to know them
such as injector size .map sensor range .and compression ratio
SUPRA MAN thanx for the wrap. Now all i have to do is live up to it 
you gotta admit though that little sideways launch was fun
ordered my big FMIC today 550 by 350 by 90 mm .will be ready by dubbo (thanks Joe )
he he if you thought the Cressida went well the other night wait for the big cooler and and an extra 5psi
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 10:47
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celicamad---->
How about 12psi, does that sound more realistic ?
Dude, your cressida is incredible !! Never thought they could go that well, or accelerate that fast !!
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Thu, 03 April 2003 13:31
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wihtout some hard data and dyno tuning i really cant say
this engine is quite rare
but its quite often possible to run 5 psi more so i think 12 is most likely a max figure
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Fri, 04 April 2003 06:43
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No way!! 14psi is quite capable with the 7mgte, mines runs 14psi with 100% stock internals without a prob. It's all in the tuning.
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Tue, 08 April 2003 09:22
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At last dyno tune before the first one got written off i had 300rwhp or 225Kw.
Since then I've put that cooler on which will flow a hell of alot more air and put a HKS exhaust manifold with 32mm ext wastegate which should also help flow a great deal.
That said, i haven't put it on the dyno yet, well we did but the wastegate failed to operate due to the boost controller and the engine hit boost cut at 15psi but it was spooling so fast the data logger graphed it up to 20psi from the momentum.
The lag isn't anything major cause the engine is great off boost as well due to it flowing well again.
Some nice driftage/tyre smoke on the dyno too, but thats now sorted. Now other issues, my new clutch setup is now slipping when i run 10psi so I gotta get that sorted.
I'd so love to be going to Dubbo but i'll be installing my new alarm all Easter. It's going to be lots of fun, over $1k to get it installed from Flahpoint (incl alarm) so its pretty technical especially when intefacing the turbo timer. It even has a PIR for the garage that radio's to the car alarm and sets it off.
Next year, i;m trying to get it all sorted for the dyno day in June.
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Tue, 08 April 2003 12:05
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yeah should see some big gains with the big wastegate and moreboost cooler etc.
how far can you push stock 7m internals???
i know its long way but you are welcome to come for a run up to Newcastle and put it on the dyno plus .the beauty of this is that wheelspin is not an issue and you can usually test in nice cool condition (unlike MANY dyno sheds).
You dont know what your missing at dubbo .the contacts ,ideas advice and you can see who is full of shit and who is not .
A few cars that where SUPPOSED TO make big power stopped coming when go to whoa and dyno comps and drag racing where mentioned
And some real suprises came out .i was once a non believer of the potential of certain model 3sgte's (now a convert)
ANYWAY if you change your mind i reckon i can squeeze you in be great to see your car there
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Wed, 09 April 2003 03:16
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See how i go but it's unlikely ill make it.
You've got a dyno up there in newcastle? Yours or your workshops or something?
My mate from Taree has a 3sgte in his celica with a T04e on it, she cranks along. Nails 90% of the cars in Taree and its very sedate from the outside.
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Re: supra mans 7mgte turbo -A dyno Results
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Wed, 09 April 2003 09:12
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SUPRA MAN - all bets will be settled when you head to the drags with the car. Dynos are a little bit subjective.
celicamad - "how far can you push stock 7m internals???" There's a Supra down south with over 700rwhp on stock rods. The engine has forged pistons and no doubt a metal head gasket. The pistons are apparently good for 500hp at the flywheel as long as they're well tuned, but that's more heresay than anything.
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