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Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Tue, 18 June 2002 14:47
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I should be going to Whiteline (or one of their distributors, maybe C&V) soon, to find out about getting a strut brace for my RA-23 (a birthday present from 2 years ago owed to me by my brother).
I was wondering if any other early celica owners would be interested in getting one at the same time, maybe get a good deal. Either way, I'm not paying for it & will deffinately be getting it, so if no one's keen that's cool, but it might be a good opportunity for some of you early celica owners out there.
I imagine the 22's would have the same strut top bolt pattern, and a similar if not identicle distance between the towers, and it would deffinately fit any 23 or 28 series celica.
Going from what I have read and heard, it would prolly cost arond the $150 mark, and I've also heard they make a much bigger difference on old cars like ours, that might not have as much chassis rigidity as newer models, so I'm hoping it will make a noticable improvement with my cars handling.
Hopefully a few responses will help me get off my arse and drop in to C&V to find out the details too. Let me know what you think.
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Toymods Board Member
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 00:15
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Put me down for one Bigworm....!!!  I've heard they make a huge difference on older cars... 
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The Rainy City
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May 2002
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 03:35
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remember to keep us posted on any changes a strut brace does to your car... im watching this space closely...
Cheers
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 04:26
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I would be very interested. Chuck my name on the list also.. As long as it'll fit with the 3t-gte engine and not interfer with anything.
Joel
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Wed, 19 June 2002 04:57
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Bigworm,
Chaulk me up as interested !
If it will fit around the new engine I'd be keen. The engine Bay is already Stich welded which made a HUGE difference but I would love to get one in the bay if I can. They do help alot !
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 06:45
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Me too!
With all that chassis twisting torque i need all the help i can get.... yeah right!
I'm keen though, seriously
stew
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 10:46
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I had one on my old GT Cortina and it was the best If the funds are there I'd get one(as long as it fits)they do make a difference
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June 2002
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 10:47
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I would definitely be in it as long as the strut brace can cope with a 1ggt
Craig
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 11:00
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As far as I know, Whiteline doesn't make a strut brace for the older Celicas. You'd have to go down there and let them measure your car up so they can start making some. They're in Minto.
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Wed, 19 June 2002 11:49
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No Message Body
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 12:20
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is this farkn thing workn ????
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 19 June 2002 12:26
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sorry guys my first time on this and it stuffs up , well what i was tryingto say was that the strut tops from a ta22 and ra23 are diffrent so you cant use the same strut brace for the two , and i think the engin bay is smaller to , a mate of mine is sponcered by white line so ill ask him if he can have a word to em bout doing a deal direct form them if ppls want .
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May 2002
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 20 June 2002 00:35
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if the price is right, i'm in. 
I live a little bit further away than the rest of you, is that a problem or can them ship them off to wherever is required??
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 20 June 2002 01:22
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Now will they make 1 for a KE30?
i guess i should find out 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 20 June 2002 03:04
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willwal98 i'm moving on campus to toowooomba next semester and i'll be in sydney in july. If the timing is right i could bring then up for ya.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 20 June 2002 03:57
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that would be great if the deal goes through. What course are you taking? I'm doing IT at USQ at the mo.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 20 June 2002 04:24
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willwal98 i'm doing mech engineering atm but i wanna change to a science next semester, r you on campus i'm trying to get a spot at concannon. you going to the uni games?
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 20 June 2002 04:29
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nope, not on campus. And i've never actually heard of the UNI games. I just go my lectures/tuts/pracs/exams hand in my assigns and eat lunch in the refect ocasionally (not recommended, the food isn't that good). My mate does mechatronics which is a combination of mechanical and electrical and some other stuff aswell. I don't know anyone that does any sciency stuff though, mainly just the IT guys.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 20 June 2002 05:23
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Can you ask about a KE70 one while youre there?, otherwise Ill just make one up myself.
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Toymods Board Member
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 21 June 2002 03:20
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OK, I'm just waiting a couple days to give grim boy a chance to talk with his mate, and then it will be action stations (hopefully). By the looks of things, maybe we should organise a day where a group of us all go to whiteline, and have all the different cars measured up. RA-23/8, TA-22, KE-30, KE-70 etc
I'm sure they'd do us a good deal on that many strut braces.
Anyway, just keeping everyone updated on the proceedings......
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 21 June 2002 07:29
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Joel,
I am not coming down to get my car measured!
When you get yours measured - get me one, then drop it to my house! if your lucky i may even give you the money it cost.....
Sorry mate - just had to get it out.... teching kids all day will do that to you.
Talk to ya soon
Stew
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Toymods Board Member
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 21 June 2002 15:08
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Nah, don't worry, I just meant for all the people with different cars, and anyone else that may want to come. There's no way I'd expect you to drive there from newy.
You can drive to my place to get it, and then you can pay me an extra 50 bucks for handling fees, and we should be square.
Oh, and if you want to install it in my driveway, that'll cost you an extra $20. Don't forget to bring your tools (they cost a packet to rent).  
BTW "teching kids all day will do that to you." I hope you weren't teaching them to spell!
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May 2002
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 22 June 2002 01:40
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Sounds good Joel, and i'll only charge you $60 to fit it for me....
Nah i wasn't teching them spelling.... As i tell yr.7 when they correct my spelling, "i'm a science techer, not an English techer"...
Stew
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 26 June 2002 13:39
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Im interested in a TA22 bar fellas - keep me posted on the progress also as im in desperate NEED of one to stop the flex my 2tB produces when booted
A price would be good too - im in Brisbane - soon to be Victoria though so ill have to include some shipping
Stuart
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Toymods Board Member
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Wed, 26 June 2002 13:53
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Stay tuned........
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 27 June 2002 04:54
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hay guys i talked to white line , they dont make sway bars for old celicas , its possable but one it will cost a lot , evern if we do get heaps made , plus they need tohave you car for a wile etc , i menchioned doing a groupe deal ,and they said cus its not a big thing thats gonna sell heaps after they make our fue ones it wouldnt make a diffrence , un like were if it was for a new car thay have a better chance of selling them later on , so the susgestion was to look some were eles cus some places do make em ive seen them , sorry guys ,
Dennis
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 27 June 2002 08:31
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hmms - why not get a few strut top brackets for models made up - so the basis is there for our own mass production ...
Im sure someone out there would have access to the right engineering equipment - and i know they can be made for ta22's with the right gear and for about $200 odd
Stuart
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 27 June 2002 09:52
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hay guys , i got a nother idear, the place who did my cooler could do em , i got to go there tomoro so ill ask , but to things that we have in our faviour is that there a small place so good quality for not so big price and i know em pritty well so i should be able to get it cheep , whats the best to make em out of, aluminium? , get back to us wid your thoughts
Dennis
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 27 June 2002 11:14
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Dennis,
Get 2 of them made..... 
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 27 June 2002 12:18
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Hi guys, i am going to make one for my TA22, i am going to actually make two (one for each side) from the strut tower to the firewall (where the bonnet latch is.) That way it connects the struts to the fire wall not just each other and it also gets around clearence problems with the 3TGTEU inlet manifold. Ill make one and if people want one ill make more. I wont make any money out of them (ok maybe $20 each)but they will be cheap to Toymodders!!!!! Ill even paint them the colour of your car if you give me paint codes and a little extra money.
Jamie.
P.S by the way i have a patent pending on this design for a TA22 so no copying!!!!
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 27 June 2002 22:50
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with you patenting its all good except for the fact that some one has already done it , so if i was you id do a bit of research and make sure your not going to be up for a hefty fine for coping some one with out knowing , especaly if its found out you are selling them , and goign to the fire wall is a good thery but ive seen it crack fire walls , if you build it properly goign between strut to strut is fine unless you have clearence issuse like you do , well my two cents worth
Dennis
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 28 June 2002 02:49
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Grim boy, take a joke mate!!! I was just kidding!! I know it has been done before but they used a single brace that went to the firewall where i will use 2. Mine will also be adjustable. By the way i can make and sell them because my design will be different. For example if Remus has a patent on an exhaust for a 200sx does that mean that they are the only people who can make an exhaust for that car. It only takes one minor difference and its ok. Try to take things less seriously for a change.
Jamie.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 28 June 2002 06:23
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joking or not , i was just pointing out the fact that it can get messy with patenting , and yes i know how they work as i have patented stuff befor , i was just point out what can happen if your stupid and blatenly coppy some one eles ,
Dennis 
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Toymods Board Member
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 28 June 2002 11:28
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Hey crostek, I'd be interested in finding out more about your bonnet clearance issue, any chance of a pic?
What shape is the bar, like does it bend up or down, or is it straight, and how high do the strut top mounts mount the bar? How close to the engine is it, & what engine is it?
Thanks mate
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 04 July 2002 10:19
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Good news! 
I went in to Whiteline today, and spoke to Wojtek about a strut brace for an RA23. He was very helpfull, and measured up my car on the spot, found some strut top rings that already fit, and made up the bar & bolted it all into place, with plenty of bonnet clearance and motor clearance.
So the good news is, Wojtek will be coming to the Dyno Day on sunday to test fit other celicas with different engines, and will prolly be able to take measurements of other cars......
As for a group discount, we can get them for $164 if we buy 10 or more, otherwise they are $179.
But a group purchase means they all have to be delivered to the same adress, and they have to be paid for all together, which could make it tricky.
So those people with TA23s, RA23s, or RA28s who are definitely keen to purchase one, let me know. If you know anyone that would be interested that might not read this, let them know, cos we have to buy more than 10 for a discount.
I'll go mention this on the Dyno Day thread too.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Thu, 04 July 2002 21:21
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Thanks Joel,
It sounds good. \always nice when someone else does the hard work...
Did you keep that one or was it just a test fit?
How does it go... what does the bar look like? Flat or round?
Cheers
Stew
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 06 July 2002 07:55
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*BUMP*
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 06 July 2002 08:05
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i know im repeating previous q's but is the ra23 strut top brace the same type fitting as the ta22 ??
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 06 July 2002 08:28
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We'll find out exactly how different they are tomorrow, and I'll let you know.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 06 July 2002 14:47
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interested.... I don't know if I can take advantage of the bulk buy though. I live so far away from everyone else. Once I pay postage it would be the same if not dearer than buying the non-discounted one.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 06 July 2002 15:26
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will i am still offering if you can get it done next week
between 9th and 15th
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 06 July 2002 22:26
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If they become available for 3TGTE TA22 Celicas I will buy one for sure.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sun, 07 July 2002 05:08
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yeah golum, that would be great. I though you had already left. If it can be organised before golum leaves I will definitly be in for it.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 09 August 2002 11:09
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Does anyone know what happened with this? as i am interested in a strut brace for my ra23 also where did u guys get your front and rear sway bars if u have them and are they much better over the standard ones and what was the cost
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Fri, 09 August 2002 11:31
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I should be going to pick up the first one made soon, will let you know how it goes.
There is another post somewhere where I explained the clearance issues with different motors installed.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 10 August 2002 03:53
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I'd recommend K-MAC swaybars for your RA23. I switched from a K-MAC rear to a Whiteline and it was a bit looser in the rear end than before.
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 10 August 2002 04:01
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I have a 24 mm kmac fromnt swaybar on mine and an 18mm whiteline on the back - both i picked up for 150 dollars - installed myself - and the cars 10 times more stable in cornering now from what it was .. front bar was 2nd hand - but with all new bushes - back bar was brand new - but reduced to clear
Now i just need the stiffer springs and a good set of front tyres
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 10 August 2002 08:47
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where do u get k-mac? is there a site on them?
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 10 August 2002 13:52
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also would like to know
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Re: Strut brace for T/RA-23s, 22s, 28s
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Sat, 10 August 2002 14:09
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I don't have their phone number on hand, but they are in Rockdale near Botany Bay, and they did a fair bit of advertising in all the older magazines, 4cyl & V8.
If you knew exactly what you wanted it would be very easy to order it all, otherwise it shouldn't be too tricky to work out over the phone what you want.
I got a package of new shocks (munroes painted orange apparently) lowered springs & thicker front swaybar & rear bar all fitted for 1 grand. It was a big improvement over standard, but I am thinking of upgrading, getting some konis & trying some different springs soon, plus working out a bit of camber adjustment & getting a proper wheel alignment (but find out what I want/need first- I've got a bit of learning to do).
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