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fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 08:15 Go to next message
unfortunately due to strut and brake modifications my simmons are up for sale. they are now a completely wrong offset for the application i need. they are in excellent condition and will sell them with or without tyres. pics are below

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How much?
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah how much?
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
make an offer guys. ive been offered 1200 for them so far. so bid from that price
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Could you let me know width and offset, and tyre size and condition, please?
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im not sure of the offset but know they are 7". can measure the offset if some1 tells me how. the are reasonable. i say reseanonalble instead of good cos the why the still have decent tread the fronts did suffer a cuts on the front as they werent rolled probably
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
turn your msn messenger on ,I'll talk you through it!
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it is on but just add goldrolla@hotmail.com instead

the rollaboy is old i should update it
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Those rims look awesome!
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the are. i wouldnt be selling them unless i needed to. the irronic thing is im selling them to fund a set the exact same but with a offset to suit my latest car. hows that for screwed Confused
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm, yes that is a bit.

And, they look to be the right offset to fit my car (I'm looking for +15 to +20 in a 7" rim), but I was originally looking for 15" rims... Plus you're in Adelaide so even if I offered $1200 and got them I'd still be looking at shipping (which is... $100?). Hmm... Just slightly out of my budget (was hoping to spend less than $1000 or just above).

What tyres are on anyway? I'd be guessing you're running 205/45R16? Or lower profile?

Maybe I should just get these and be happy Smile

*edit* nice rolla by the way Smile Go the rolla Smile I'm slowly converting my KE55 back to KE30 spec. I've got the headlights and grill on, now restoring some tail lights Smile

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Do we know what the offset is yet?
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 10 April 2003 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Heh, awhile ago a friend of mine lined up my 16" rims against the rolla, and gawd they looked awesome... Only problem was they are a +40 offset (off my GSR) so they don't quite fit...

http://images2.fotki.com/v19/photos/5/50292/211300/20030126fookscarwithmags2-vi.jpg
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ill find out the exact offset tomorrow. cant have you guys relying my dodgey measurement

i know they would fit a ke55 perfect as the suspension is all the same in the ke30/55

nice work on converting the car to ke30 spec. i reckon they are much nicer in this

tyres are federal 205/45/16
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool, awesome. How much thread is on the tyres? You mentioned that the front ones had cuts on them, what sort of cuts? To measure the offset, if you put a ruler or straight bit of wood/metal etc across the back of the rim and then measure from the flat surface (where the bolts to through) to that ruler, I can tell you what the offset is.

I'm actually running a slightly wider track on the front, I have XT130 brakes and struts. I'm hoping to run flares, hence the want for highly offset rims, but at the moment unless I go really wide rims and tyres which I don't want, it looks like I won't be running flares...
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it would be quicker and easier for me to take a pic of the tread. ill also take the pic of the cut to the front. its the worst one of the two. cant take a pic of the other cut cos the rims not here. the cut on the other rim cant be seen when on the car cos it actually on the tread and follows the tread round the tyre. this cut was caused by a seam weld on the car. wont be an issue on any other rolla unless they had a slightly bent strut like mine. but im willing to sell them without tyres.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
here you go

also found a pic of the other tyre with the cut. drew a white line alongside the cut so u can see what i mean

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ooh wow ouch. I wonder if that will compromise the strength of the tyre at all? Can't really tell how much thread there is from the photos, looks to be about 50% or so (though quite likely I'm wrong)

How much would you sell the rims without the tyres?

Hmm. Tempting.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
will want about 1400 without the tyres. i have a bit of interest so ill just need to see how i go with that price. shouldnt be too hard. let me anyway. as said before 1200 is the highest so far without tyres.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nice rims, sorry i dont have the finances or i would be bidding also.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Fri, 11 April 2003 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh wow, you want $1400 without the tyres! I previously thought it was $1200 with the tyres... I guess that puts me as a definite no then Sad

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Sat, 12 April 2003 04:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you wish you can put in a bid for 1200 without tyres as im relucant to sell to the other person as i will need to wait a month sop he can arrange finances. put a bid in anyway
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Sat, 12 April 2003 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm, I'll think about it... I was thinking if they were $1200 with tyres they'd be less without, but if $1200 without tyres I'll have to think about it...
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Sat, 12 April 2003 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so they will fit a ke30 rolla hey?
there is 4 of them right?
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Sat, 12 April 2003 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes they defenitely fit a ke30 rolla. thats what i had made for. but should also have the same specs for all earlier toyotas with the same stud patterns, old dattos, sigmas, stanzas, sss, 929 etc etc. the list goes on
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just an update the offset is approx +12. perfect for many older rwd cars
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm, I think I want to put me down again as a maybe at $1200 without tyres. I'm just waiting for a reply from somewhere else and to see how my finances etc go.

Do you have any idea how much shipping is? Cause I'm REALLY stretching my budget here, but they are very nice rims Razz

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
should be able to them to you for well under 100 i reckon. i will contact mainfreight tomorrow and see how much they charge. they are usually the cheapest. to give you some idea i have sent seats from adelaide to newscastle for about 80 but that package was fairly big. anyway ill find out tomorrow. this mags were made for a ke30/55 corolla but can also take pics of them on a ke55 if you wish. a few of the adelaide boys should be able to verify for you that this was my rolling stock

stretching the budget...you wont be disappointed.

im stretching my budget as i have to buy these things brand new again but in a fwd offset. now that hurts.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
faulksy: What exactly is the offset? Cause on PF you've quoted +25 but here you've posted +12? I need to know as it'll make a differnce whether i'll need flares or not... +25 is actually a bit less than I hoped for (was looking for +20 and less) but we'll see...

Anyways, do let me know about the offset and the freight costs, and hopefully I'll hear from these other people soon so I can actually make a decision...

Thanks Smile
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im sorry for the confusion. most of the confusion comes from misinformation and contrating info from many places i went to. i will get a tyre shop i trust tomorrow to measure them for me. i believe +12 is much closer as they seem closer to what a corolla should have. many places told me that the wheel is a negative offset to me cos its a rwd wheel. sounds like rubbish to me. to me rwd means a negative offset or a lower postive offset and not always a neg offset like a few places told me.

ill also get a pic of these wheels on a ke30. these wheels were specifically made for a corolla so they will fit. but once again ill get the real offset for you tomorrow. hopefully i wont get flocked off by these guys like all the other places have done. sorry about the confusion
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If they were made for the Corolla it is more likely a +20 or +25, as +12 will most probably stick out the guards a little (which is what I want because I want to run flares). I'm not sure, as my track is already wider than stock with my stock wheels (due to different struts and brakes).

They don't look to be a negative offset, but that's only judging from the photos. I've yet to actually find a wheel for a car with a negative offset, the only negative offset wheels I've ever seen were for trucks and the like. Even the Supra MKII rims are about a +8 offset.

If you can measure the inset for me, I can tell you what the offset is (at least by the method that I follow - which I think is the method more commonly used). To measure the inset, lie the wheel face down, take a straight ruler (or similar object) and place it over the back of the rim, across the rim so that it goes over the center. Now take another ruler (or other measuring device) and measure in mm the distance from the middle of the wheel (where it bolts onto the hub) to the ruler lying across the wheel. That is the inset. If you can supply me with this number I can let you know what the offset is.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no worries ill do it tomorrow when i get home. btw do u ever sleep. everytime i post you seem to respond back.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Here I draw dodgy picture:

http://images2.fotki.com/v21/photos/1/12090/45402/offset-vi.gif

the black thing is the rim

b is the red ruler
a is the distance you measure

*edit* i am a uni student doing honours. therefore i am not allowed to sleep Sad it also means i have no money Sad

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
from the drawing...looks like an art degree. with the measurements i will have to also have to give you a few more measurements as the tyre is still on the rim. that is ill give you the ground to the B line (the b line will be the flat object sitting on the tyre and the A measurement whicjh is the back ogf the hub to the level object sitting on the tyre (B). does that make sense? i still have the tyres on the car so the width of the rim will include the tyre and the offset measurement will also include the tyre. if i just gave you measurement A the offset wouldnt be accurate as you will basing offset on 7" while its slightly wider with the tyre on
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
art degree, hehe Smile No I'm actually doing IT. For my dodgy "1337 art skillz" I will have to thank my friend SuperJamie, he has drawn me many a dodgy picture to show me how to fix things on my Corolla Smile

It would be best obviously if you could give me the measurement of a to the height of the rim, but if that's not possible then yes, if you can give me the measurements as you describe them I can assume that the tyre overhang is equal on both sides of the rim and compensate to calculate the offset.

why are you up so late? Smile

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes i presume the tyre will overhang equal on both ends. im up late as i work at optusnet internet. being 24/7 means some1 has to be up at this time. best of luck with the degree. im still have to get off my butt and get my MCP
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Mon, 14 April 2003 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey I just realised something, you're looking for FWD offset rims! Smile Those rims that are up against my car on that photo above, they are for sale Smile And yes, they are a fair bit cheaper than yours, and even come with tyres Smile

Advanti Racing 16x7's, I think it is a +40 offset or something like that. Basically to fit a Corolla they need about 25mm spacers on the front I think, something along those lines. They've got Falken ZE326 Zeix tyres on them, about 90% thread, and I was looking for about $800 Smile

We could even work out a swap with cash adjustment deal if you're interested Smile

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok i took the tyre off the rim so i wont get anymore shonky measurements. the distance from the ground to the red ruler (B) is 202mm and the distance between the back of the hub to the red ruler (measurement A) is 114mm.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just a note on that 202mm measurement. yes i do know that is 8" but remember on each side there is a lip on the rim. so a 7" wheel is effective 8" wide. so to measure the offset do i work it out from 7" or 8"

also thanks for the offer on those rims on the rolla but they arent the sort im looking for. hoping to get another set the same after selling these ones off
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm, that is strange, I'm fairly certain my 7' wide rims are actually 7's wide. I'll go home and measure them again, I might be wrong. But anyways, with that in mind, I won't be able to use your rims as my inset (measurement A) is 110mm max. So yours being 114mm will hit my strut and so not work.

Judging from your measurements, I think you have a 16x8 rim with a +13 offset. If it is considered a 7' wide rim then it would be a 16x7 with a +25 offset.



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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
back in a sec. just get some pics for u. give me 5
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heres the measurements im talking about

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm, I must say you have me stumped but it would make sense for your rim to be a 7' wide, and therefore a +25 offset. It looks like it anyway Razz

But yes, in any case, last I checked my inset was only 110mm (as far as I can remember) and if that's the case I can't use your rims Sad Might have something to do with me using custom struts etc...


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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll measure my inset again when I get home later just to double check. And measure my rims too. Gosh my brain is so soft and gooey, must_get_more_coffee!!!
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Tue, 15 April 2003 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
measure yours when u get home and let me know. as you can see from my pics it isnt my dogdey measurements.
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Wed, 16 April 2003 22:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry for the late reply, I've been completely bogged down with uni work Sad And no I didn't think you had dodgy measurements, it was just curious... Smile

I've just measured my rims, and yes you're right! 5.5' rims are actually 6.5' once you add the bead, same with the 7' ones... Wow that really changes my requirements for offset on my rims.

Anyways, I'm going to try to figure out what sort of offset I need now...

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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Thu, 17 April 2003 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thank goodness for that. let me know once you find out
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Re: fs V90 Simmons 16'" 4x114.3 Sat, 19 April 2003 02:17 Go to previous message
Damns, they are the same style and make rims that were on my car originally. Guy had 17" x 7 front and 17" x 8" rear, but living out in the sticks like I do, I needed a higher wall height so I asked him to keeps em.

I was looking for 15" x 6 or 7" but am thinking lately that 16" would do the trick... Tempting..... *
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