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shinybluesteel
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icon13.gif  call me an idiot, then tell me how to put my dizzy back in Sat, 19 April 2003 03:30 Go to next message
called me an idiot yet? do it now, then read on.

Lets say i was to pull the distributor out of my 4AC in my sprinter, then rotate the engine a few times at random, just for fun.

how would i go about putting my distributor back in so my car will run?

i figure i should:

turn it to TDC on piston 1 on compression/igniton stroke

stick the distributor in so the rotor is contacting the point for spark plug #1, then try to start and repeat.

I now know the right way to do this, mark the position of everything (cam pulley, rotor arm etc) but 20 20 hindsight will only get you so far.

EDIT: sorry for not putting this in technichal.

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Re: call me an idiot, then tell me how to put my dizzy back in Sat, 19 April 2003 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, there is a trick to it.

if you have a test light (if you don't, get one...)

put the #1 piston to 7 deg below tdc ( or whatever the 4ac timing is supposed to be set at) turn the car ignition on, put one end of the test ligt to the negative side of the coil pull the HT lead out of the coil, put the other end of the test light onto theend of the HT lead and then earth them both to the body of the car. with this circuit in place, turn the dizzy until the test light comes on. I think you turn the dizzy in the direction the engine spins and turn it until the light just comes on (or somewhere there anyway).

This method works but to tell you the truth, last time I tried it didn't ( on an old 186) I just got a friend to crank it and turned the dizzy while he was cranking it till it started.

Good luck.

Tim.

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icon10.gif  Re: call me an idiot, then tell me how to put my dizzy back in Sat, 19 April 2003 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
man, thats a pretty good frigging idea. i do have a test light, albeit a 2 dollar one, i will give that a go.

you have confused me with your wiring instructions, but im sure i can work it out.

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Re: call me an idiot, then tell me how to put my dizzy back in Sun, 20 April 2003 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, it is a bitch.

I don't quite understand it myself but it works. just crank the engine and turn it till it fires.
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Re: call me an idiot, then tell me how to put my dizzy back in Sun, 20 April 2003 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i understand your instructions now, as you have to run power through HT lead #1, found where TDC is today, someone has marked it with a whiteout marker, also there are two holes on the cam pulley that point "up" also, i can work it out by pulling out plug # 1, then turniong the motor over with my hands until it is easy to do (because it is trying to compress the entire atmosphere instead of what is confined in the cylinder/combustion chamber) then you just line up the TDC mark on the main pulley.

cheers again.
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Re: call me an idiot, then tell me how to put my dizzy back in Mon, 21 April 2003 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
There are TWO TDCs, not one, so using the above info you have a 50% chance of getting it right.
At the first TDC, Cyl1 will be in compression (which is what you want), at the other TDC, Cyl1 will be in its exst stroke (not what you want).
For a engine with a timing belt you can tell by where the cam wheels are. They should have a mark, or hole to align to an indicator on the head.
For a car with a timing chain, pull the cam cover... Cyl1 is at the correct TDC when the valves for that cyl are closed.
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Re: call me an idiot, then tell me how to put my dizzy back in Mon, 21 April 2003 09:39 Go to previous message
i know there are two TDCs, well there is only one, but the piston gets there twice every four stroke two revolution cycle.

thanks for the tip with the mark on the cam pulley, i would quote myself but don't know how and can't be bothered.

i have sorted this problem out, now all i need to do is put it all back together and mess around till it starts.

thanks to everyone for the help.
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