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Tires for MA61
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Sun, 04 May 2003 02:43
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What tyres are available for standard ma61 rims?
Am i right in believing the widest size u can use are 265's (the bf goodrich radials)?
Where can u buy these big ass tyres and wat do they cost?
Thanks in advance
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Adelaide
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June 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Sun, 04 May 2003 04:37
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265? You'd really be pushing to get 265's on there. The rim is only 7" wide. Largest I'd want to go with, for the rear anyway would be a 245. Anyway, I don't see that going that wide is really necessary unless you are pushing some big hp out of it. I'm running Yoko a509 225 all round on my 7m and it's fine. And that's with about 170kw at the rears. However I don't know whether the a509s are still available. I got my set over a year ago and they were being phased out to be replaced by the a539 I think. I got mine for $140/ea if that helps at all
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Sun, 04 May 2003 06:16
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I bought A509's for my MA61 a couple of months ago. I'm really impressed with these tyres, they hook up real well considering how much power my car has now. I paid $130 which is excellent value IMO. They've been "phased out" for a while now but there is still some old stock around, especially for unusual sizes (eg MA61 size).
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Sun, 04 May 2003 09:22
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Big O Tyres at moorebank should have something
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Sun, 04 May 2003 09:28
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I've got 235s front and back.. I'll check the brand tomorrow.
but I'm *really* impressed with them.. awesome stopping in the wet, and great holding in the dry.
apparently they perish fairly quickly, but they're also really cheap.
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Sydney
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February 2003
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Sun, 04 May 2003 12:11
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draven rnt u running the sumitomos
or did michael keep them wen he sold
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Sun, 04 May 2003 19:43
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that's them
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 00:31
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Does anyone reckon that running a 225 on a 6.5" rim would be overdoing it? I've decided if I can I'm going to be keeping my Ray's rims.
I'll have 205's on the front but I have a feeling once I shove a rocket up the cars arse its going to need more traction in the rear 
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 02:33
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I've got 265's on my rears, they seem a bit of overkill. When i have to get new tyres i think i'll stop at 245's all around.
And if anyone is curious, they are on stock rims
As a side note i should have my bitch back on Friday, ableit not the way i would of liked(but somtimes sacrifices must be made to serve the better interest of your household)
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 05:05
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FWIW,
I've got 14x7s on the front and 14x8s on the back - both running Pirelli 225's. I'll probably switch back to stock rims when I find a cheap set in Perth.
Justin
JZA-61 in progress
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Brisbane
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December 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 05:11
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i recently bought Kelly charger 235s all round..they're great for $120? each...can go around corners literally on 2 wheels and they'll still stick...reccomend them strongly.
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Location:
Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 05:26
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My car came with Kelly Chargers on the back when I got it. They were bad and needed repalacing. I went for the Pirrellis (P6000, from memory??). I like the Pirrellis, though the Kellys look like they would be a good tire as well - and about $20 cheaper from memory as well. But maybe a little harder to find - local tire store near where I work didn't stock 'em.
- Justin
PS: As I mentioned above, my back wheels are 1" wider than the front - but both have 225 tires. A mate and I were arguing the other day whether the rears looked visably wider/different because the wheel was wider. I said no, he said yes. But it did get me a bit worried (WA cops LOVE yellow stickering cars with different width wheels front & back). Soemone please tell me that the difference shouldn't be visable with same sized tires. Thanks!
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Brisbane
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December 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 05:34
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ah i was gonna say all round tires in brisbane get the kelly's in...but wa is a fair cruise away...
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Location:
Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 05:54
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Thanks Cyber. I *think* I'm worrying about nothing - except my mate's bad vision. There's a heap of little stuff I'll have to fix before seeing the engineer and pits guys anyway - just getting paranoid about getting yellow stickered befor the conversion (ie: waste money fixing-up the 5ME type stuff before puting in the 1JZ (whenever it arrives - damn Toyshop!).
Sorry to be a Thread Stealer!
- Justin
JZA-61 in production
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Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 06:28
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Personally guys and gals, I wouldn't look at the kelly chargers again. I've had 215/65/14 for a year now, and although they do wear pretty well, I find that they're definitely lacking in the wet and tend to also be average in the dry. The only reason i got them in the first place was that i was cash strapped (at uni at the moment).
I must also mention that i do a fair amount of hard driving when i get onto the hilly roads near home(Great Ocean Rd and all through the otways).
Just my 2c
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 07:42
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Kelly Charger = cheapo bogan tyre. Buy 'em if you're strapped for cash, otherwise get something decent!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 08:25
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I know its not an MA61 persay, but can someone give me their thoughts on running 225's on the 6.5" rim?
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 08:33
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Frankie,
If they'll fit - they would be good (I run 225's). Am I missing something in your question?
And don't call me Persy!
I'm tired (obviously!), time to go home and sleep.
Goodnight all,
Justin
JZA-61 in production
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 08:38
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Kelly Chargers?! ARGH!! Get them away from me!!!
Kelly Chargers suck in the dry. And they're downright dangerous in the wet!
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 08:55
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 05 May 2003 18:25 |
I know its not an MA61 persay, but can someone give me their thoughts on running 225's on the 6.5" rim?
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I wouldn't do it if you care about handling. Even on a 7" rim they squirm around a bit much for my liking. The ideal rim width for a 225 tyre is 8".
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 09:30
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This was my thinking. I reckon I'll keep the 215's on the back until I get some different rims when I've changed to 5-stud.
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 10:24
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Norbie where did you get the "ideal" rim width for a certain tyre from? Is there a guide, a rule of thumb, or is this from your experience?
BTW out of interest what are the widest rims that can fit on a MA61 (front and rear).
Cheers
Wilbo
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 11:08
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I always take down my own time, date, place, officer name, station, and get them to sign it.
I'm too pissed off when the only record of what happened is theirs, and it's wrong
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14
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I had 215s on my celica... it stuck like shit to a blanket. cost me around $140 a corner, and man was it worth it
beautiful
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 11:28
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| wilbo666 wrote on Mon, 05 May 2003 20:24 |
Norbie where did you get the "ideal" rim width for a certain tyre from? Is there a guide, a rule of thumb, or is this from your experience?
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The ideal rim width is slightly less than the tread width. If the tread is too much wider than the rim it's not supported as securely so it can move around under load.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Mon, 05 May 2003 13:42
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| ROBBO_ma61 wrote on Mon, 05 May 2003 15:11 |
i recently bought Kelly charger 235s all round..they're great for $120? each...can go around corners literally on 2 wheels and they'll still stick...reccomend them strongly.
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I used to have Kelly Charger 225 all around and i am glad to change them over to Yokohama A509. They are a far superior tyre then Kelly. All the cars in our family have Yokohama. The SA63 - A539, ZZT231 - A680 and VN Commodore - A509.
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I bought A509's for my MA61 a couple of months ago. I'm really impressed with these tyres, they hook up real well considering how much power my car has now. I paid $130 which is excellent value IMO. They've been "phased out" for a while now but there is still some old stock around, especially for unusual sizes (eg MA61 size).
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I got told the same from my tire fitters. When i enquired there were two sets left. Since I have a set fitted, now there is one in my area. It set me back $145 a corner.
As for what happened to the old Kellys. I gave it to a friend so he can use it as burnout tyres for his HQ Ute...
Cheers.
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North Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Tue, 06 May 2003 07:14
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I had 509's on mine and I found them to be crap???? 
They didn't stick at all especially in the wet.
I've now got BF Goodridge 265's on the back and they're gripping as well as could be expected.
I'd almost say if I didn't have those 509's on the back when Scott was driving the Supra there wouldn't have even been an accident. They were hopeless in the wet.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Tue, 06 May 2003 18:25
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| Celia-Sue wrote on Mon, 05 May 2003 15:05 |
FWIW,
I've got 14x7s on the front and 14x8s on the back - both running Pirelli 225's. I'll probably switch back to stock rims when I find a cheap set in Perth.
Justin
JZA-61 in progress
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WTF? the P6000 come in other sizes than 195/65 in 14".
All the tyre places I went to as well as the catalogs list the only 14" tyre in the P6000 range as 195/65. I wanter 205's for my celica but settled on 195/65 P6000's.
KoC
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Wed, 07 May 2003 00:19
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Well, I've got 235/45R17 P6000s in the back of my car......
So I guess they do make them in other sizes. 
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Wed, 07 May 2003 02:13
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Well, they are definitely 14", 225x60 Pirellis. I'll wander out at lunch and double-check the model. Maybe they're P5000s?
- Justin
JZA-61 in progress
With completely new red on black velour interior - and I will never have to dael with The Upholsterer From Hell again (thank F**K!!!) Photos to follow - when the new steering wheel arrives (Autotechnica flat-bottom red/black job).
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Wed, 07 May 2003 19:10
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| Nark wrote on Wed, 07 May 2003 10:19 |
Well, I've got 235/45R17 P6000s in the back of my car......
So I guess they do make them in other sizes.
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I said other sizes in the 14 inch range.
KoC
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Cabramatta, NSW
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 Re: Tires for MA61
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Wed, 07 May 2003 23:58
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Ah. My bad. 
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Re: Tires for MA61
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:03
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Straight from the toyo catalog in front of me.
model: 600-F5
size width
235/60 r14 6.5"-8.5"
225/60 r14 6.0"-8.0"
215/60 r14 6.0"-7.5"
FWIW, I'm running Toyo T1-S's, 225/45 r16 on the back and 205/50 r16 on the front, on 7" wide rims.
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, to actually look into it before they waste my time and somone elses when i dispute the defect notice.
