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Cressida Fasination - What the?
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Sun, 04 May 2003 12:45
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Briefly,
What is the reason behind some of you toymodders modifiying Cressida's.
I'm in no way what so ever Knocking these cars but I've noticed alot on this site and am now qurious as to the reason behind it.
Also my brother is looking at spending about $8000 on a car and is looking for somthing "different" He is thinking silvia and I'm thinking common.
Impressed with what I've seen here. I've made him consider a Cressi (modded) as different.
His answer...
"what grandpas car get f#@ked"
my answer
"grandpas car that sh#ts on all of your mates cars...and has cup holders"
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Sun, 04 May 2003 13:10
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If he wants something different getting something old will get half the job done.
Maybe a KE10 Corolla - don't see that many of them getting around. They weigh stuff all so with a healthy 1600 they can surprise.
As for the Cressidas.....well I guess it is just like how some guys like more voluptous girls. You know built for comfort etc...though with the right engine you could get some speedy comfort...... 
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Sun, 04 May 2003 17:59
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the mx73 has one of the most comfortable interiors ever for a toyota... plus these big arse family cars do handle with the right gear and a good 1jzgte 
Comfort and power, awesome cruiser, oh and did i mention fitting 5 big blokes, and still being able to flog a commodore 
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Sun, 04 May 2003 22:46
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I love my Crowns. Same reason Can fit nice big motor in to a luxury grandpa car to make the ultimate sleeper. I'm looking at 7m or 2JZ for my crown.
But I've got to admit the cressida's look nice. They look hot when you dump them and the've got the ultimate sleeper look. The cars just look nice, not to hot and then as Luke says you just blow away anything next to you with the 1JZ.
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Sun, 04 May 2003 22:48
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And not to mention stealth, I've seen my friends with yobbodoors get pulled over all, pretty well just because they drive a commodore!
Man if I got pulled over I'd be like "I'm on the way to pick my dad up from bowls", and then they'd prbly let me go lol
Seriously tho I think one of the reasons they are popular is that there is only really 4 Toyotas that came with EFI 6's (Cressida's, Crowns and Supras, Old Soarer's == rare) which means they have the room for an easy 1JZ swap. Even easier if you get a JZX81 cut and a Cressida 
Cheers
Wilbo
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Sun, 04 May 2003 23:54
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Easy.
They are large, comfy, easily upgradeable and attract little to no attention as they aren't really known as being a "hoon's" car. The engine bays are capacious enough to accomodate a multitude of engine upgrades.
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Mon, 05 May 2003 05:57
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Better yet - it's VERY easy to buy a really good example that hasn't been thrashed as the demographic that the car was aimed at are not into thrashing cars. I bought mine from an 82 year old guy who pampered it from new.
Seriously though, where else can you get a excellent all round cruisey car with room for 5, Pwr windows, mirrors, steering, seat, Sunroof, luxurious leather trim, ABS, climate control Air con, cruise control that will never be looked at twice by the police and cost you around $15,000 - yet still produce around 250kW and net you a thereotical 12 sec sleeper
I have my budget at $18,000, but using an earlier model, and sourcing some more second hand items, you could probably do the same for about $5,000 less..
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Mon, 05 May 2003 08:10
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I'm starting to warm to the idea
What would $8000 get my brother with some mods already done.
or is he better starting from scratch
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Mon, 05 May 2003 08:50
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There have been a couple of 1jz powered cressidas in the forum for sale. I think there is one there for 9k at the moment. It would be a good buy if your bro could stretch the extra grand.
As for why i bought a cressy:- I needed a car big enough to use as the family bus without being a big, soggy, hard to park barge like my previous car was(current shape verada). It also has the added bonus of RWD which is rare in a jap car which also makes it easier and cheaper to drop a new motor in than a camry or magna. I am also prefer jap cars over the local offerings due to quality and refinement. That is a personal opinion of course but I drove a BA fairmont for 3000kms recently and was appalled at the build quality and refinement(or lack of) the thing.
On top of all that I'm surpised at its standard performance. Its no HSV but goes quite well and I know if I blow the motor up, I can always put a 1jz in it, even have the nod from the missus 
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Mon, 05 May 2003 12:16
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you can pick them up pretty cheap now - I just hope there's no TOO many of them getting conversions by the time I pull my finger out and swap the motor in mine - oh, not sure about anyone else but i don't have cupholders 
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Mon, 05 May 2003 12:25
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oh, not sure about anyone else but i don't have cupholders
"doh"
Still sounds like what I'm after... Screw my bro he can get what he wants!
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Mon, 05 May 2003 12:34
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i'm sure if U wanted to rip out the double din radio and replace it with a single din unit you would have more than enough room for some custom extra large cupholders finally be able to put in those extra large cups - oh, as a matter of interest, cupholders are good for holding 6 inch subway subs aswell
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Mon, 05 May 2003 12:41
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As long as they hold coke buddy bottles it's all good
I'm Definately keen on one of these now 
How much do the MA83's weigh?
and what are the differences betwwen the glx, glxi and grande?
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Mon, 05 May 2003 12:51
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a fully optioned 91-92 grande would have LSD, c/locking, CD stacker, leather, abs, electric windows, mirrors, seats and sunroof....i've seen them go for between $9000ish up to $16000
i have a glx 1990 and it has grey velour, factory electric sunroof, power mirrors and windows, central locking, 6 speaker stereo (no cd), white duco (near mint) and i picked mine up for $6000...220 000km on the clock tho but the plan was for new driveline anyway, since ht ebody is near perfect it fitted the bill nicely..
sorry cant help u on the weight or the glxi though....it should be out in the net somewhere
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Mon, 05 May 2003 13:10
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89 model GLX weighs 1520 kg (on a weighbridge) with 3/4 tank .so 1550 kg fully loaded
form 90 onwards allow 1570 and a Grande a big fat 1620 kg
if you add mags(eg simmons add aboout 20 kg)
why Cressida ?????
because a 1j BOLTS in
look slow ..goes fast
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Mon, 05 May 2003 14:04
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had mine 5 years (90 glxi 7mge).this car is my wifes car.lowered,debadged,17's,moonroof,white,nobody knows what it is.handles excellent,good build quality,2 kids worth of shit for a weekend away,decent stereo (upgrade speakers),quiet and oppulent,PUT IN A DECENT FUCKING ENGINE FIRST.
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Mon, 05 May 2003 14:09
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by the way can the 1uz motor be fitted with standard ecu and still retain cruise,tacho,climate,non cupholders?or is 1jz JXZ81 KING
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Mon, 05 May 2003 22:30
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Don't know about the standard (by this I take it you mean Soarer/Crown) ECU, but there should be some way to make it work...Darren (AKA V8 Cressida) is the bloke to ask, as his 1U swap was done using the engine/ECU etc from a Crown; come to think of it, Grant should also know.
(Mine runs an Autronic ECU for the engine, in combination with the factory 7M/AT ECU for the tranny...and the cruise etc work fine!
Oh, and BTW. Mine, (an '89 GLX with 1UZ-FE), went across a weigh-bridge at 1520kgs, fully fueled!
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Tue, 06 May 2003 01:16
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Mine cost me $6,500 from Auction - I actually enquired on the reserve they had on it and offered them $250 less and they agreed to sell it prior to going to auction.
it's a one owner 1992 Grande with factory Sunroof. 194,000km, full dealer service history (timing belt done at 180,000kms). The previous owner (who I called while looking at the car) gave me the full history etc and why he sold it (traded in on an Avalon Grande)
One went at the same auction house - same year as mine, but No sunroof and with only 95,000kms for $9,650 last week.
The MX83 GLX model was built from October 1988 to December 1992
The MX83 Grande was built from November 1990 to December 1992
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Tue, 06 May 2003 03:13
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Something I noticed the other day, is that the earlier GLXs (like mine) came "better specced" than the later (post-90) ones, probably because of where they each "sat" in the respective ranges...For example, ours has (rudimentary) climate-control A/C, whereas I noticed that a later GLX I saw the other day runs standard A/C. The later ones didn't seem to have the sun-roofs as "often" as the older ones...It seems that most of the early GLXs I've seen have a sun-roof, but the later GLXs (and a few Grandes) don't seem to...
I'd have bought a Grande if a decent one had been available for a reasonable price, but:
A) There were very few around for sale and,
B) I noticed a very nice one in a dealer's yard, after we bought ours, for $12,000  (For comparison's sake, we paid $5000 for ours - with a BHG - always with the intention of ditching the 7M in favour of a 1UZ...)
One other thing I've noticed with the Grandes is that the laether seats don't sem to hold up so well over time...(Believe me, I've looked!) Has anyone with a Grande re-trimmed the seats? (I'd be interested to know how much that cost).
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Tue, 06 May 2003 03:37
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Southo: wow, you got a bargain!
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Tue, 06 May 2003 03:43
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tell him to buy a silvia
sounds good.
or a v8 vb yobbodore.
so my grandpa's car can give him a big asswupn
with the air conditioner going
cold coke in the cup holder
teddy bear on the back seat
whilst listen to some nice radio banter.
i will politley wave him good bye.
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Tue, 06 May 2003 07:30
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I probably paid a bit more than resale for mine, but after looking around at what else I could get that fit the bill for the same money ($10000 from a dealer), it was an easy decision. My cressy is an '89 GLX, 1 elderly owner with log books and 68,000 clicks. It had only done 6000 ks in the last three years 'cause he was too old to drive, and is absolutely immaculate. I love this car and have absolutely no regrets buying it. Even the missus likes it!!
If anyones looking for a good one, I saw a '91 model in the Sydney trading post last week with 31,000ks (not a misprint). I think they were asking 11k but you could probably knock them down a fair bit. If its in good nick it would be a great buy.
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Tue, 06 May 2003 08:49
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being a toyota engine this might be a stupid question but...
The 1j's, how reliable are they in respect to the turbos and such if the engine has say around 80,000 on it?
I'm now seriously concidering one of these. what are they like as a daily driver with a 1j and if I were to the conversion myself from the 7M to a 1j how difficult is this to a non-mechanically minded person I mean is it a weekend job or does it involve...welding ?
I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to cars (I've put an 18R-GEU into an RA28...several times) But welding or cutting is a little beyond my expertice. And most of the people I know that would help are useless. So I'd be on my own (except for the little golden book of knowledge that is this website )
I learn from my mistakes (I've learnt alot!)
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Tue, 06 May 2003 12:24
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saw the worst mx83 in the world the other day.stuffed burgundy paint,minor dent,ripped off steering damper,shot tyres,300,000kms,buggered struts,untidy interior.almost all electrics still worked,including moonroof.still drove better than a 100,000km commodore.it was only $2000
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Mmmmm.......Crown
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Tue, 06 May 2003 12:54
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Buy one old Crown....
Add one late model alloy V8....
Watch stunned faces of Crumpodore drivers from your rear view mirror as you drive away in air conditioned comfort.
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Tue, 06 May 2003 13:03
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Absolute classic
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Tue, 06 May 2003 14:14
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HELL YEAH BABY! That would be one of the few cars with more style than a VK valiant wagon!
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Tue, 06 May 2003 22:32
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Give it up for the GrandpaMobile
I've loved every minute of driving mine and would strongly recommend it!
ONE THING ----
1UZ-FE
Ultimate sleeper, can get a half-cut for $2400, cheaper than most 1JZ's atm; no intercooler hanging out the front (remains a sleeper)
...and...
ULTRA LIGHT ALLOY V8 POWER 
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Tue, 06 May 2003 22:40
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...and you might be surprised when one becomes available for sale in the relatively near future...
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Wed, 07 May 2003 12:06
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Sorry to change the subject but just a little to crowns
GiantTomato How you doing I'm spewing that you are able to get the 1UZ into the ms43's. I would love to have one in my 53 but hey the chassis had its say. And I also wanted to be the only fast crown wagon around but hey it will be good couple of quick sleepers.
Onto other matters however. How much work do you think in involved with putting the 2Jz GTE into the 53. How much work (mainly) involved in making room for that second turbo??
For every one else cressida's are the ultimate sleepers with either the 1J or the 1UZ. But you could always move up to a CROWN.
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Wed, 07 May 2003 12:08
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Sorry to change the subject but just a little to crowns
GiantTomato How you doing I'm spewing that you are able to get the 1UZ into the ms43's. I would love to have one in my 53 but hey the chassis had its say. And I also wanted to be the only fast crown wagon around but hey it will be good couple of quick sleepers.
Onto other matters however. How much work do you think in involved with putting the 2Jz GTE into the 53. How much work (mainly) involved in making room for that second turbo??
For every one else cressida's are the ultimate sleepers with either the 1J or the 1UZ. But you could always move up to a CROWN.
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Wed, 07 May 2003 12:50
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Stitt, to be honest I actually haven't started yet. I have some finishing touches on the Corona and then full steam ahead on the Crown.
Rod, Struan, Steve Shipway and Secoh have all got me a taddle worried about it....I hear the 1UZ rests on the chassis rails/top wishbone with the 50 series. I'm really hoping this isn't the case with the 40 series - initial measurements suggest this won't be the case. I have seen a 4V in an old MS45 which suggests it should work. If push comes to shove, I will lift the body off the chassis by an extra inch to give me some extra clearance (the beauty of a full chassis!). It looks very much like it will need a rack and pinion conversion too.
Did anyone notice all the Iraqis driving Crowns in the Gulf War?
Edit: Not sure what might be involved with fitting a 1/2JZGTE to the Crown. The rear turbo might be an issue (when I fitted the 2JZGE, the rear manifold fouled on the steering box, which is why I'd be a little woried about the rear turbo), so the cure would be a big single or a rack and pinion conversion. Both require extra funds unfortunately, although I think the R&P steering would be the cheaper option. Id imagine you'd get someone to make a Xmember from one chassis rail to the other, attached via the bolt holes for the steering box and idler arm, and then hang the rack off the new Xmember. Another option altogether might be to use a Sigma steering box and bolt it to the outside of the chassis rail. I think the R&P would provide the best result.
Of course, there's the other crap....engine mounts, gearbox crossmember, wiring, tailshaft, fuel system, blah, blah, blah...but Norbie would have some of the low down there.
[Updated on: Wed, 07 May 2003 23:27]
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Wed, 07 May 2003 14:12
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I sure as hell took good notice of the Crowns in every newspaper picture from Iraq!
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Wed, 07 May 2003 15:50
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u gotta remember the 1J will crap all over the V8.
V8 = sleeper
1J = weapon
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Thu, 08 May 2003 01:04
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Ouch, Ouch, Ouch! Stop twisting my arm, You're all hurting me!
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Thu, 08 May 2003 01:36
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be an inovator
put a 1j in a camira
cressida's have been done to before
tub it
rear wheel drive
parachute
it will pull 7'z
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Thu, 08 May 2003 04:46
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And yet people will still laugh.
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Thu, 08 May 2003 11:00
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Mmmm.......Crown.
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Fri, 09 May 2003 08:00
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wanna be different.. go a 1j mightyboy
with a little work, youve got an 800 kilo 208 kw scud!
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Fri, 09 May 2003 08:42
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Love your new avatar Stitt ( :
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Fri, 09 May 2003 23:02
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Suzuki Cappucino... Looks like a normal car, until you stand next to it Plus it's rear drive to start with. Still, buggered if I know HOW anyone'll EVER fit anything with more than 3 cylinders under that bonnet! (Motorbike engine? Jet ski?)
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Tue, 24 June 2003 23:40
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Cressida:
Standard = damn good
Modified = Lots Better
(just don't tell anyone eh?)
We have 2 '92 Grande's in the driveway, My white one and my wifes light blue one.
Now as most of you already know, I have had the website up and running for some time now. It's now time to do a revamp of the site and I'm setting up a section for owners cars. If you have any photos of your ride and would like to email me with some info, I would be more than happy to include these on the site.
steve@reanimotion.com
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Wed, 25 June 2003 11:44
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cool website steve
will send you some photo's soon
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Thu, 26 June 2003 01:21
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I love my turbo crown
It's great fun blowing away Falcadores
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Thu, 26 June 2003 07:06
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Has anyone put a 1JZ into an old Groaner Mark II coupe? I've only seen a couple of these cars (bog standard), but geez they look sweet. Late 60s ones are even better!
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Thu, 26 June 2003 07:30
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Not aware of a 1JZ, but I am aware of a 2JZGE in a coupe.
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Thu, 26 June 2003 23:32
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Showoff.
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Thu, 26 June 2003 23:39
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/wipes tear from eye...
That's beautiful GT!!!
Drooooooooooooooolllllllllllll
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Fri, 27 June 2003 12:28
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Just think of the cressida as a 4 door supra simple.
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Sun, 29 June 2003 09:24
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GT, that Mark II looks bloody awesome... The engine bay looks mad aswell with the trumpets...
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Sun, 29 June 2003 09:50
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how about doing a conversion on this pimpish rt81 corona 
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