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 Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Wed, 07 May 2003 23:52
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Is it possible to put a gt4 engine (that being the 2.2L Turbo) into a AE86 Sprinter? I have heard of this, but is it possible and has it been done?
cheers
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Wed, 07 May 2003 23:57
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Your talking about the 3SGTE arn't you....Isn't that a 2Litre??
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:00
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I think its 2.2L
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:03
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No, its 2l. The 5SFE is 2.2l and thats not turbocharged or in a GT4.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:06
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Yep it's possible - ANYTHINGs possible. No it aint the cheapest thing to no, and it's 2 litres 
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:08
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oh alright then, I mean the 2L turbo one, would that fit into a AE86 sprinter? has anyone done it? does it work?
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:12
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yeah i know like anything is possible, but like within reason, so like all the engine mounts n stuff dont have to be changed. Like will it fit in so that not all the mounts n bolts have to be changed?
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:17
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No, they will not fit bolt in, it will require custom mounts, manifolds etc. Do a search in the forums, RWD 3SGTE has been covered over and over.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Thu, 08 May 2003 00:21
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ok will do
cheers
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Thu, 08 May 2003 14:04
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Apparently, it's the ultimate conversion (with cylinders) for an AE86.
Check out one of the older issues of 'Rice4's'  and you'll find a guy in SA that has done this - and my word has he DONE this!! His name is John Roberts, if i remember correctly, and that ride is totally insane.
quote: "There's enough acceleration in this sprinter to shame a Ferarri - Oh what a feeling!" 
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 03:18
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| Audioslaver wrote on Fri, 09 May 2003 00:04 |
Apparently, it's the ultimate conversion (with cylinders) for an AE86.
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Hmmmmm YES and NO
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Fri, 09 May 2003 03:47
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Sounds fukn insane!
Im think of doin that, like as a project car, but instead with a 1JZ-GTE or a 2JZ-GTE if it fits?
It seems on the engine swap guide a 1JZ-GTE fits but not sure about 2JZ-GTE, i think it should because its twin turbo instead of single so wouldnt that just mean like a bit more piping? so surely that could fit in aswell?
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 03:52
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Don't take the engine swap guide for gospel. Its basically just a match up with RWD engines with RWD cars, FWD engines with FWD cars, and ones that people have successfully turned around.
1JZGTE would make a Sprinter a lead tipped arrow as they are quite heavy. It also would have great trouble fitting. It also comes with single turbo and twin turbo models. I'd say why its left off the list is that its just bloody huge, its just as long as the 1JZGTE but taller again.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 03:59
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oh ok so basically the 1JZ-GTE and 2JZ-GTE would be too heavy and prolly wouldnt fit in, even if u like customised the mounts and all that shitt? If the front was too heavy what would that do to the car? like accelerating cornering handling etc? in the end it wouldnt be worth it?
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 04:01
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Basically, you could MAKE it fit. But the engine bay is not designed for a big engine like that. It'd go like a shower of shit in a straight line, but would handle like absolute shite cos the weight balance would be royally screwed. Waste of an AE86 if you ask me.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 04:18
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oh ok
cheers
does the one with the gt4 engine handle well?
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 04:20
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From what I've read, there isn't a lot of difference in weight between the 3S and 4A engines. I couldn't forsee it being greatly affected in a bad way.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 04:53
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| tronske wrote on Fri, 09 May 2003 13:47 |
Sounds fukn insane!
Im think of doin that, like as a project car, but instead with a 1JZ-GTE or a 2JZ-GTE if it fits?
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Dude I have seen a 2JZ-GTE into a AE86, lots of welding, lots of cage bars, LOTS OF BAGS OF BLUE METAL in the back in an attempt to keep weight over the rear wheels, engine pushed right back into the firewall....... errrrrr correction what firewall!!
I seriously do not recommend it unless it is a trailer car....
To the drags and back!!!
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Fri, 09 May 2003 08:11
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The 3S in an AE86 isnt a great big deal, Its basicly the same as what i'm doing in my 22.
Also the 3S is a fairly light engine, I will be weighing mine for future reference as soon as I pull the engine from the halfcut and find a set of scales!
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Sat, 10 May 2003 12:56
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Anyone seen HPI volume5 on video? AE85 with a 900hp 2JZ , the engine sits so far bak the gearstick is doglegged so the driver can reach it!!! MAD car though 
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Sun, 11 May 2003 01:56
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from what i thought the 2jz-gte would not be a legal engine swap in NSW cos of the engine limit placed on cars...
I thinks it something like 2.5 time the weight of the car and thats the max engine displacement that can be put in the car...
so with a sprinter weighing 950kgs (i think...feel free to prove me wrong )
the max engine displace ment would be around 2375cc, or a 2.4l
for more info check out this link...
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/v si06.pdf
on page 3 is the limits on engine stuff.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Sun, 11 May 2003 06:24
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I dont think they are talking being legal 
though a 2jz-gte sprinter is as legal as my car.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Sun, 11 May 2003 08:21
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I think this is in a AE86.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Sun, 11 May 2003 08:32
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I've seen that picture before. Is that distributer meant to be on the front? 
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Sun, 11 May 2003 23:44
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its ok, i have realised now that im not ganna put a 2jz-gte into a sprinter, Im still considering 3S though as it is lighter, but will there be a problem with rwd because isnt the 3S east west engine?
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 Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 01:37
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| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 11 May 2003 18:32 |
I've seen that picture before. Is that distributer meant to be on the front?
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Well, it can't be where the firewall is.....
That's one way to get around the dizzy problem...
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 01:52
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| tronske wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 09:44 |
will there be a problem with rwd because isnt the 3S east west engine?
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Yes, but there are ways around it. Do a search, this topic has been covered many times over.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 02:05
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just a quick thought/question
is it dependant on the gearing or is a dizzy always in 1:1 with the cam, by that i mean, if were to bolt the dizzy to the front of a 3s or 20v (admittedly there would be a little bit of tinkering involved) would it run still, or is it a 1:4 or some weird ratio like 2.43:5.23232323
norbie,
did you receive my email regarding the brake setup on you celica?
C.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 09:58
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you put the dizzy directly on the front of the cam it would turn the wrong way! This would cause problems?
Just a thought, I actually dont know what i'm talking about on this one
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 19:10
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| Cool1 wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 19:58 |
Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you put the dizzy directly on the front of the cam it would turn the wrong way! This would cause problems?
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Umm swap the leads around?
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Just a thought, I actually dont know what i'm talking about on this one
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ditto 
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Tue, 13 May 2003 02:19
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From what I know of the mod, you ad in some gears to make it spin back the right way around.
I don't really know what I'm talking about either...
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Tue, 13 May 2003 04:32
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is there any difference in the Toyota MR2 Generation 1 3SGTE than to the gt4? if so what are the differences? wouldnt that be better because the mr2 is rwd? or is there a problem because the engine is in the back?
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Tue, 13 May 2003 04:38
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The MR2 engine is basically the same as the GT4 engine. The MR2 has bascially a FWD drivetrain turned around.
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Re: Engine conversion AE86 with gt4 engine?
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Tue, 13 May 2003 04:55
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is it still an east west engine? meaning would u still have problems, but nothin that cant be overcomed?
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