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HAHA....Lame Holden ad Sun, 11 May 2003 09:31 Go to next message
Omg anyone seend the ad for that new Vectra coming out ???

Just see the ad ....im sure i dont need to say anything

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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Is that the smart thinking one???

That is lame... And the car looks quite craptastic aswell...
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That ad is one of the worst car ads atm ! It pisses me off so I switch channels when it comes on Embarassed Laughing
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
love this one

"a more powerful v6"......"good thinking" (yeah the guys a genius)......"140....even 150 KW"......(yeah and you're going to achieve that by.....)

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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Actually, the ad may be stupid, but apart from the whole FWD aspect, the Vectra is probably a better car than the Commodore Razz
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh, and they're going to achieve 140-150kW through technology Razz Something that Holden is lacking and the Opel designed Vectra has.
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 22:11

Oh, and they're going to achieve 140-150kW through technology Razz Something that Holden is lacking and the Opel designed Vectra has.


Yeah thats what im saying
If they showed HOW they're going to do it with clever, unique technnology thats fine
U dont just blurt out stuff like.....

"lets makle it handle really really good.....and powerful....and fast......and comfortable.....and good looking......and blah blah blah....."

Im sure most manufacters are trying to achieve these things

they sound like 12 yr olds...designing a car

anyone catch my drift




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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ever thought that the majority of people who buy a Vectra will be people who care more about style than the way they make the power?
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
But the whole ad is about making it handle better and go faster etc etc...its just the way they went about the ad

Im not paying out the car.....im paying out the ad
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 12 May 2003 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, I hear you, but dude, it's an ad...If they start talking about multi valves, double overhead camshaft durations, head flow rates and fuel injection maps what the hell will all the soccer mums think??

The ad isn't aimed at you that's all. It's just a shopping trolley. mind you, 150 KW will be a damn fast grocery getter!!

It'll give all the corollas something to chase!!

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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Tue, 13 May 2003 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wonder how the wheels talk...to....each....other?



"Wheel 1 this is wheel 3....over"
"Wheel 3 this is wheel 1 copy....over"
"Where are you wheel 1....i repeat....where are you situatated wheel 1...over"
"Wheel 3, current situation is as follows.....situated directly across from wheel 2...all systems green....over"
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Tue, 13 May 2003 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, it looks like a pretty shitty car. I wouldn't buy one!

Speaking of adds I found a whole heap of old Bathurst and motor mags from the 70's in the shed and some have add's in them for the TA22's and the RA23's when they were first released. It's also got a price list of all the cars that were out at the time and an article of how successful TA22 GT was in some 24 hour rally in europe.

If I had a scanner I'd post them up her.
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Tue, 13 May 2003 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
better idea - go to a library and scan them - I WANNA SEE!!!!
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Wed, 14 May 2003 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, I'll see what I can do. My friend has a scanner so I might have to go visit her.

One's in the official Bathurst mag '74 (TA22) and then there's one in the '77 Bathurst Mag.

I actually found them because my dad said that he picked up from a Toyota dealer the pamplet to a TA22 when they first came out because he wanted one. Unfortunalty I can't find it, I found one for a FJ Holden though and another for a Ford Zepher.
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Wed, 14 May 2003 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cyber-punk wrote on Tue, 13 May 2003 11:31

I wonder how the wheels talk...to....each....other?



"Wheel 1 this is wheel 3....over"
"Wheel 3 this is wheel 1 copy....over"
"Where are you wheel 1....i repeat....where are you situatated wheel 1...over"
"Wheel 3, current situation is as follows.....situated directly across from wheel 2...all systems green....over"


Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Thu, 15 May 2003 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sounds like a new Funzo thing to me actually... you know the simpsons epesode where the kids had to design there perfect toy? Rolling Eyes
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Fri, 16 May 2003 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, I know what the funzo is!
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 19 May 2003 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Did u realise that the cost of a base model vectra is 6K MORE expensive than the base model crapodore?
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Mon, 19 May 2003 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep, My mum went looking at the Vectra's about a year ago and decided that the base model wasn't worth it as it didn't come with a CD player and air con and it was more expensive than a commodore. So she settled for a CD Astra manual, quite a few gran less. ($2000 cheaper for a manual than an auto)
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Fri, 23 May 2003 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is what happens when marketing people try to get involved in automotive engineering.
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Fri, 23 May 2003 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marketing people work on a whole different level to everyone else. Freak
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Fri, 23 May 2003 03:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
'wheels talk to eachother'?

my wheels just usually scream and spin... Very Happy
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Fri, 23 May 2003 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah I have to agree with the sentiment of this post.
That add pisses me right up the wall, down the hall and around the bend. Mad
"wheels that talk to each other". Nissan did it with the passive 4 wheel steer (I think that it was called Yaw control).
Actually they're doughnuts talking to each other.

Another one "I am a clumsy geek, so I want some cup holders!" Laughing

They talk about technology, and nothing that they mention hasn't already been done - 10+ years ago.

And they are supposed to be aussies designing something from scratch - The best idea that they had was they started with somebody else design - namely Opel. Aah such is the GM marketing strategy. Laughing
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Fri, 23 May 2003 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I can understand seeing it from the general publics point of view.....but even most ppl would realise that everything they said is already trying to be achieved by other manufacturers...

ie: more powerful V6.....im sure most companies are trying to do better too
cupholders....speaks for itself

the only thing "clever" from a general publics point of view would be the "wheels talking with each other".....and thats called traction control right ???
been done

yes being repetitive rocks
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Tue, 27 May 2003 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toycelica77 wrote on Fri, 23 May 2003 13:31

'wheels talk to eachother'?

my wheels just usually scream and spin... Very Happy



Haha! the way tyres are meant to be used! hahaha! Pity Traction Control & ABS takes away my fun. Smile

[Updated on: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:28]

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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Tue, 27 May 2003 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The new ad for the Astra Turbo is cool though... Maybe Holden have seen this thread and thought, "hmmm, we really need to re think our advertisements..."

And to the clumsy fruitcake, "your fired and take your cup!!!" Laughing Laughing Laughing ...
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Wed, 28 May 2003 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And to the clumsy fruitcake, "your fired and take your cup!!!" ...


HA HA HA, nice one ben Very Happy

But the SRi add is a good one... least HOlden decided to use a dog instead of a chicken! Seriously Toyota, come up with something better! Thank god they dont use it anymore, and if they do, very rarely... bloody Camrys! Razz
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Wed, 28 May 2003 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thug_immortal wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 16:16

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And to the clumsy fruitcake, "your fired and take your cup!!!" ...


HA HA HA, nice one ben Very Happy

But the SRi add is a good one... least HOlden decided to use a dog instead of a chicken! Seriously Toyota, come up with something better! Thank god they dont use it anymore, and if they do, very rarely... bloody Camrys! Razz


Didn't help daewoo. A dog selling a dog of a car. But really, a DOG selling a car has to send some sort of alarm off.

But two chickens under the rocker cover is much better than a dog pretending to be a GPS guidence system.

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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Wed, 28 May 2003 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Freak i like the look of the Astra..
anyone know the specs of the new turbo one? nice blue in the add too.. Smile
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feral4mr2 wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 21:52

Freak i like the look of the Astra..
anyone know the specs of the new turbo one? nice blue in the add too.. Smile



147kW, 250Nm.... the full details are already up on the Holden web site.
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Wed, 28 May 2003 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
feral4mr2 wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 21:52

Freak i like the look of the Astra..
anyone know the specs of the new turbo one? nice blue in the add too.. Smile


Hey dude. Smile

147KW of blistering POWA!

Straight from the source:

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modelov erview?modelid=2006

I think it's more targetted towards the "nice ride" exective/yuppie, because it's really poor power from a 2 litre turbo.

Heh, read the specs on the website I linked above though. I love the term they use for fartcan:

"Polished stainless steel exhaust extension"
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Wed, 28 May 2003 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its not bad for a low boost turbo application. Don't forget that the 200SX only had 147kW and was well liked by pretty much every performance magazine.
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Tue, 03 June 2003 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 22:48

Its not bad for a low boost turbo application. Don't forget that the 200SX only had 147kW and was well liked by pretty much every performance magazine.


though the 200sx's were also rear wheel drive,and coupes. good looking ones at that.

the turbo astra is a step forward for gmh. the vectra ad is absolute rubbish,I agree - from a car nut's point of view.
However, the thing is though,you remember it don't you? score a point for the advertisers. their job is to get you to know about the advertised product. you now know the car has a v6 with decent power,and some gadgets. job done as far as they're concerned.


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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Tue, 03 June 2003 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Obviously it won't be in the same league popularity wise to the S15, but its a step in the right direction.

One other thing though, everyone I've spoken to agrees with me too. Does the Astra Turbo sound like a blender or what?
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Sun, 08 June 2003 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i hate all holdens
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Re: HAHA....Lame Holden ad Sun, 08 June 2003 11:19 Go to previous message
[quote title=Apollo wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 22:26]
feral4mr2 wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 21:52

"Polished stainless steel exhaust extension"



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