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KiRK
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1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Sun, 11 May 2003 23:39 Go to next message

Just wondering if anyone knows first hand if this is a legal
modification in Queensland?

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Sun, 11 May 2003 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, a 2 litre turbo engine can be legally fitted to any RWD Celica in Queensland.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its something like no more than 50% displacement increase and 100 hp increase...

something like that, dont quote me on that

dept of transport have brochures and stuff on this exact thing, they're free too Confused
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for the reply guys... I'll look into it further... just wanted to know roughly if it was legal...

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It works like this for engine conversions (sub 1300kg car):
- vehicle weight (kg) x 3.0 = maximum engine cc (naturally aspirated).
- vehicle weight (kg) x 2.5 = maximum engine cc (forced induction).

As you can see, a 2 litre turbo engine won't be a problem for any Celica.

Don't bother talking to Qld Transport, they wouldn't know a turbo from a grande latte. Speak to a certified engineer - they understand the rules and what they mean. I can provide contact details if you like.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message

That would be a huge help Norbie, any information would be greatly appreciated....

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Has anyone in Brisbane / Queensland done a conversion like this in a early model celica?

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i ahve seen ti done in a early 80's corolla.. but that had nsw plates Very Happy
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Is legal, tho you'll need a blue-plate and certification from an engineer if you want legit rego.

i've bought Helmann's 1979 RA with 1G-GTE (auto) installed in it. Blue-plate had three codes (LA3 & two others) noted on it. (sorry - too dark to go wandering outside to peer under the bonnet to check)

ta,
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scary thing is because it is 2l and the old engine is 2l, you don't actually have to upgrade the brakes or anything else.
That's right. Bolt her in. Get the blue plate and drive away.
On a similar note. If the 1jz-gte was 54cc smaller in capacity it would be legal to fit in an ra40 in qld.
(07) 3253 4851 this is the number for qld transport modification section. I sugest u call them for further info.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Helmann wrote on Tue, 13 May 2003 02:44

the scary thing is because it is 2l and the old engine is 2l, you don't actually have to upgrade the brakes or anything else.
That's right. Bolt her in. Get the blue plate and drive away.
Brett.



So if you do a swap into an RA65 2.4L you don't have to touch the brakes?

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I thought the brake upgrade had to do with the engine power output no its capacity?
If it was just on capacity, what would you do then if you put in a larger capacity engine that was not as powerful as the last??
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Mon, 12 May 2003 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for all the info guys... I'll be giving the transport dept. a ring for the low down... will fill you in on the details...

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Tue, 13 May 2003 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I discussed brake upgrades with an engineer when I started my 2JZ project. Apparently if your vehicle has a certain ADR (can't remember which one) which was introduced in 1977, you don't have to upgrade your brakes. For pre-77 vehicles it's a different story; I didn't ask about that though since my car is an 84 model. So get yourself a post-77 RA23/28/40 and you're laughing!
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Tue, 13 May 2003 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok just got off the phone with a gentleman called John Keen, he's a mobile engineer. He told me to do the 1ggte upgrade into a 1977 ra28 the following is required:

- Run all emission gear
- Install a cat
- Install a unleaded fuel restrictor

No brake upgrade is required, though it will be done.

Got a price from All Jap on a late model 1ggte (just engine) for $1250. Anybody think this is reasonable?

I wonder how much insurance will end up being?
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Tue, 13 May 2003 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I paid $700 full comp for mine with just cars.
best 700 i ever spent seeing as i only had it finished 2 months when i crashed her.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Tue, 13 May 2003 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wow... 700$ full comp thats a far cry from my $2800 on a r32 skyline... Sad Looking forward to this swap.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Tue, 13 May 2003 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$1250 is a good price these days. Just make sure it's working right.

I pay $750 for full comp with Shannons.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Wed, 14 May 2003 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What toyota does the gen 3 1ggte come from... is it the ma70
supra?

sorry... ga70 supra?

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Wed, 14 May 2003 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message

Well... I'm now the proud owner of a 1ggte gen 3 (the one with the pale green injectors) Hopefully it will all be in the car and running smoothly over the next few months Very Happy
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Wed, 14 May 2003 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 11:49

It works like this for engine conversions (sub 1300kg car):




U sure its not Sub 1100 kg's ???

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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Wed, 14 May 2003 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep, I'm sure.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Fri, 16 May 2003 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey

I have an TA23 with a gen 1 1GGTE in int, unfinished up North (Darwin) and will be bringing it down at the end of the year.

Would love to see any guys/girls? with 1ggte in anything, and to see what it will be like.

I also plan on doing a CT26 high flow single turbo conversion at a later stage, as I have the turbo, ready for a high flow........


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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Fri, 16 May 2003 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nilezy, ru the nilez that took my RA23 shell? How is it coming along?
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Sun, 23 October 2005 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey Will.

(damn this is a really late reply!!)

unfortunately, thats sillycar has gone to a better place in the sillycar sky.

Cheers Nilezy
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Sun, 23 October 2005 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
great to see you dug up an old thread. but at least it was a good read none the less.
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Re: 1ggte - is it legal in a raX in Queensland? Sun, 23 October 2005 11:05 Go to previous message
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