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Registered: June 2002
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Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 02:55
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have seen this conversion but does anyone know what is involved, i.e. what disc, caliper mounting etc?
Thank you
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 06:13

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dont bother with the S4 setup, do the hilux 4 piston upgrade. i got my photos developed and the article will be available in the next few days.
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 07:49

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I'm using Mazda 4 potters on mine, I can find/send you some photos later tonight if you like. Personally I'd use the Mazda ones over Hilux ones to save weight - if you want more braking capacity, use Nissan 4 potters.
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Location: Perth
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 09:43

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mrshin,
what rotors are you using??
and what modifications (ie machining) did you have to do to make them fit??
cheers
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 10:16

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I think I did a post on this a while ago... I'll add the pictures and write something about it later tonight.
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:13

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i have no doubt the mazda one would be better, but only if you got the money i am a mad tight ass so the hilux ones were the go.
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:28

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I only used the Mazda ones because I got them at a near giveaway price And I also scored several sets of Nissan ones at an even less credible price, and yes they're well claimed!
Ahh crap, HOW does one attach pictures to their messages?
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:29

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You need to have the hosted somewhere first of all! If you cant do this just email them to me!
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Mon, 12 May 2003 23:51

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Yeah, I'll send it to you tonight, my FTP doesn't want to be nice and do what I want it to!
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Location: eastern suburbs, Melb
Registered: April 2003
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Location: Perth
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 14 May 2003 01:34

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sorry to be a pain but could i get those pictures also mrshin??
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Welly, NZ
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 14 May 2003 05:09

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Looks good
What discs are you using?
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 14 May 2003 14:17

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Rotors are V8 Crown (UZS13x)
Struts are xA6x celica, because they were already on the car and have a fatter stub axle - could PROBABLY work with AE86 ones, haven't had a chance to check. The celica ones bugger up the camber, (MA61 ones would be even worse), using strut tops the best I've got so far is zero camber, need to play with lower arms more to get proper neg camber
Hubs are machined several MM off on the back to accomodate the offset of the rotors
Rotors have had the holes filled and new ones drilled to suit the 4 studs instead of 5
Calipers are RX7 4 potters, attached with a piece of 5/8" plate drilled and tapped (look at the picture)
Tryna think what else needs to be mentioned!
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Registered: June 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 14 May 2003 20:18

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Looks good.
What Dia are those discs? I guess they are 22mm thick to go with the calipers.
What are the spacers under the strut for?
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 14 May 2003 22:42

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Discs are 280mm - not huge, but big enough for most purposes. I'm using them 24mm thick, the most the calipers will put up with.
Spacers under the strut are roll centre adjusters - to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced of their greatness, must experiment a bit more to see I spose!
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 27 August 2003 02:48

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Anyone know how hard it would be to fit these calipers onto a XT130 strut, or RA28 strut?
I'm looking at scrapping the hilux calipers for a more light weight setup such as the mazda calipers.
Cheers
Joel
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Location: Perth
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 27 August 2003 03:41

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what upgrade could i do on a corona mark2 would them V8 crown ones fit?
I want some cross drilled rotors and good looking/working calipers.
any suggestions?
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Registered: June 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 27 August 2003 03:47

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mr shin cna you measure the bolt spacing i think the hilux ones are 90mm
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Wed, 27 August 2003 04:05

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Yeah hilux are 90mm.
I remember awhile ago someone on here put up the diagrams and everything for the plates but I cannot find anywhere!
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Location: Rosanna, Melb
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Mazda 4 piston brakes on AE86?
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Fri, 29 August 2003 08:12
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You can get the RX7 calipers onto an AE86 using an adaptor plate and 180SX rotors. I have written about this before.
Apparently RA40 strut legs are identical to AE86s, apart from the stub axle which is fatter and has a better caliper mounting arrangement, and the spring platform, which can be turned off and replaced with the sprinter one. Inserts will allegedly swap straight over and height/camber is not a problem.
So using RA40 strut leg, AE86 spring and upper, custom adaptor plate, RX7 calipers and finding a suitable disc from the DBA catalog seems to me like a good plan. Not cheap, but good.
Hen
RX7 caliper mount spacing is 158 mm centre to centre
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