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 Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 09:52
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I've been thinking, I heard about somebody binning their S13 Silvia over here into a wall.
My XX currently has no spare wheel, and I'm trying to keep its weight down, so I don't really want a full sized spare.
How much you reckon one of these is worth?
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 10:51
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Just get tyre foam, so you only need the can in your car and is fine for repairing tyres with puntures just to get home, although pointless in a blow out,
some Merc's come with it instead of a spare tyre or space saver so it must be legal to have it in your car and not have a spair.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 10:53
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Well, considering the XX came with a spare wheel from the factory, I don't reckon that I'd get away with not having a spare at all, thats why my idea of the space saver from a Silvia would fit in. Going to buy it for $40.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 10:55
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Just remember that if you do get a flat and use the can of foam, a tire place will charge you about $500 to fix! That foam shit sticks to the rim and makes a fuckin mess.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 10:58
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Thanks, you guys are making my decision to use the space saver seem better and better 
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:01
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 20:58 |
Thanks, you guys are making my decision to use the space saver seem better and better
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:02
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Mate why dont you try and get the narrowest steel wheel possible and get a real narrow tire fitted! Or even a wheelbarrow tire 
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:03
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Cos a decent sized wheel barrow wheel in 4x114.3 PCD isn't as easy to find Whereas a space saver wheel from a binned Silvia is a piece of cake
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:08
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I didnt mean the whole wheel barrow wheel, I just meant the tire!
Also just to note, some space savers have a solid rubber "tire".
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:09
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I'll check it out when i get it, should be all good.
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:10
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Sorry to point out the obvious but the rolling diameter needs toi be the same right ?
How are u gonna find a tyre to fit a wheel arrow wheel with a big enough profile ?
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:12
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Forget the damm wheel barrow wheel! I was just talking about the tire Those things come in some really big sizes!
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:15
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Really big sizes ???
Dude the wheels are tiny.....its usually the tyres that come huge
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:19
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Go down to your local tractor shop, you'll see what I mean by really big sizes 
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:52
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Mani, read Shane's posts properly dude... He was talking about the tyre all along dude...
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:54
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Space saver wheels are crap.....there`s no way i`d want to be driving my car with 1 on.....Don`t you have any respect for your vehicle franky??...How much weight are you going to be saving anyway??....FARK ALL!!!!!!!.........your sounding as bad as nark(weight issues)
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:56
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I'm not going to save a huge amount, its not the whole reason I'm doing it, by that token I wouldn't have power steering or AC either!
Theres nothing wrong with a space saver wheel if you are using them for the purpose they were designed for, theres no other reason that pretty much all new cars come with one.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:57
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Ummm, whats wrong with a space saver? Its only going to get used if you get a flat and then you will/should be driving as slow as possible! Its not like someone would put them on and drive around town 
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:57
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Thankyou Cool1, my point exactly.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 11:58
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| Rolla Boy wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 21:52 |
Mani, read Shane's posts properly dude... He was talking about the tyre all along dude...
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He edited it
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:00
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| manipulate wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 21:58 |
| Rolla Boy wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 21:52 |
Mani, read Shane's posts properly dude... He was talking about the tyre all along dude...
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He edited it
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Huh?
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:03
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U netcoder
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:03
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/me scratches his head
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:05
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Heh
"is he being serious"
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:06
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| manipulate wrote on Mon, 12 May 2003 22:05 |
Heh
"is he being serious"
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I think I should get some sleep 
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:07
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Nah just lick the frog again.....youl;l be up again for another few hours
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:08
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Ahhhh the frog. Froggy loves me 
Welp this thread has turned to shit
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Mon, 12 May 2003 12:09
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At least I got a valid comments out of it, thanks guys
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 01:53
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Another point is that a normal sized spare, sitting in the tyre well of your boot, increases rear impact safety.
If your hit from behind, a full sized spare can help absorb the impact, whereas if there is a "can" or "space saver" i can't imagine them doing much.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 01:56
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I can't imagine the spare having anything to do with impact absorption in any case. Wheels by their structural nature are not given to controlled crumpling.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 08:38
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Well that is interesting, I still don't buy yet. Have you seen cars that are converted to gas and they use the space the spare wheel once used for the gas cylinders etc?
The spare is then moved to another location, I guess that they must rely on the gas cylinders impact absorption qualities.....
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 08:40
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Well that is interesting, I still don't buy yet. Have you seen cars that are converted to gas and they use the space the spare wheel once used for the gas cylinders etc?
The spare is then moved to another location, I guess that they must rely on the gas cylinders impact absorption qualities.....
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 09:31
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if you get hit hard enough in the arse to have your spare have an effect, then your crumpling is going to be the least of your worries.
the cracked vertebrae and compacion of the rest of the car will be much more pressing issues.
besides, that's what my tow-bar is for... discouraging rear-end collisions
so frank.. silvia rims are same offset and stud pattern, or just stud pattern?
I'm assuming the offset is wildly different, otherwise all us supra owners would have easy to come by silvia mags on our cars
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 09:42
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I think the offset on space savers is 0!
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 21:46
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| rdraginrolla wrote on Tue, 13 May 2003 11:53 |
Another point is that a normal sized spare, sitting in the tyre well of your boot, increases rear impact safety.
If your hit from behind, a full sized spare can help absorb the impact, whereas if there is a "can" or "space saver" i can't imagine them doing much.
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Maybe he can hang some off his rear bumper like a barge lol
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 22:09
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One thing to watch with the space saver is to make sure that it is flat on the inside edge. You don't want the rim to foul on your calipars.
I'm also looking into one for the wagon. Need to save some space so i can fit the cd stacker with ppl knowing it is there
Also without pointing fingers can people PLEASE stop filling these forums with crap. This one is chock a block with it just decent comments please.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Tue, 13 May 2003 22:19
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| TheStitt wrote on Wed, 14 May 2003 08:09 |
Also without pointing fingers can people PLEASE stop filling these forums with crap. This one is chock a block with it just decent comments please.
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Why? There has been no insults and the orignal thread starter isn't complaining
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Wed, 14 May 2003 00:27
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Silvia rims are the same PCD as the Supra rims, but they are a bigger offset. I think thats what the rims on my car atm. The problem is once you get towards 7"+ they are sitting really far in and right up against the strut. Also, it looks funny on the Supra because of the flares.
I figured that the Silvia Space saver should be fine, considering they have the same size factory tyre as what I do, and the SR20DET versions have 280mm discs, so I hopefully wouldn't have a problem if I get stuck.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Wed, 14 May 2003 09:50
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Wow, didn't realise there had been 38 replies to this thread!
I bought it, its not really any lighter than the spare in the Celica (14x5.5" celica alloy with 195/60R14 tyre). It is exactly the same diamater as the other one so thats good.
I test fitted it to my Celica wheel well, and unlike the Celica wheel, it actually fits flush or just below the sides. That way I can mount an amp or something under the false floor in the XX no probs.
Anyways, thats all, thought I'd just relay it to those that helped me.
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Thu, 15 May 2003 02:51
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Is this one of those yellow looking thin space saver wheels?
Because if it is there was this TV show (not sure which one) but yeah they went on about how they are unsafe and you can only travel 80 km on it and that only at 80 km/p.
Also it is illegal to put these tires on the front (the obvious reasons). So if one of the fronts go you are up for twice as much work.
Later
Ross
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Re: Space Saver Wheel
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Thu, 15 May 2003 07:42
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Yeah, I know, but thats all they're designed for. All I want is something as a just in case.
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