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mods to a camry?
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Sun, 23 June 2002 07:07
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hi,
this is probably a long shot, but has anyone done any mods to a generation 3 camry?
i have one myself and want to know if anyone has done mods and what have they achieved.
thanks
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Sun, 23 June 2002 08:30
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I haven't seen anybody on the board with a modded camry of that vintage but the usual performance upgrades would work. I'd start with a cold air intake. Don't buy a pod filter, make an intake yourself. Make sure that the intake point won't suck hot air and you'll be on the right track. You could also put on an exhaust but I like the cold air intake better as it costs $bugger all$...
(it won't make your car go like a wrx though - just a *little* faster)
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Brisbane, QLD, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Sun, 23 June 2002 09:10
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Don't bother with a CAI. Just get a k&n replacement panel. As you can see on the intake we already have, by definition, (draw in air away from the engine from behind the headlights), we already have a factory fitted CAI anyway.
That I have done.
What I plan for the future is a proper 4-2-1 exhaust system (don't do a cat-back until you get the start of it right or you just end up with rice). And I plan on a transmission oil cooler. I'm also going to check out boring out the throttle body to see if it's feasible compared to $$$. I may also do something about the air pipe from the box to the throttle body.
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melbourne, australia
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June 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Sun, 23 June 2002 10:29
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hey apollo, do you have a genration 3?
mines the Vienta V6 model...
so far ive got the K&N replacement filter for the box, thats it so far, ive got some heat wrap and wrapped it around that air tube to the engine...
but with that CAI i see it draws air from behind the headlights but it dosent seem like it gets alot of air since its very cramped in the engine bay and theres not much vent bars to it? am i wrong in thinking this?
what i want to know is if it is possible to get extractors for the car? and get the cat opened up abit? without going all out on thsoe ricey hot dog pipes  i dun want the car to have that pipe sticking out of its ass just the standard twin exit pipes
any help?
thanks so far guys
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Brisbane, QLD, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Sun, 23 June 2002 10:39
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I guess I have a gen3. Mines (obviously) an apollo slx (5sfe) with a different grill on the front from the usual toyota one. Still a widebody camry under the holden grills and badges.
You can get extractors on just about anything. Being a v6 yours will be expensive to do since you need twice as many.
Cramped engine bay? Yours may be because of the larger engine. In mine I have a buttload of space. Especially at the front of the engine bay itself.
Don't forget you have a bottom 'spoiler' as well with airways.
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melbourne, australia
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Sun, 23 June 2002 12:02
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Jeebus thats cramped! I've basically got from the battery in your pic to the left free. Tons of room for a turbo.
Not to mention lots of air space below the air pipe there too.
As for exhaust, go to any exhaust shop.
For 'work' on it, any engineer that is worth a grain of salt should do any work you basically want. But it's knowing what you want first before going to these guys because they don't know what you want.
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 02:41
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The intake pipe from behind the headlight to the airbox probably isn't as free flowing as it could be (It certainly wasn't on my corolla. The headlight is actually quite close to the inlet which would restrict flow somewhat I imagine. I think there would be worthwhile gains to be had by redirecting the intake down into the front guard (where there may be a resonator (which you could remove)). As an example - on my car I used the intake piping from a 3.8L commodore motor as the basis for my intake. Its nice and big in diameter and smooth on the inside. It also collects air from outside the engine bay which should be cooler..
I also modified the airbox by getting rid of plastic flashing that intruded into the airflow path. A small detail but every little bit counts.
Overall the changes made a small difference to power and a slight difference to intake noise. I'm pretty happy with it.
cheers
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 02:55
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yeah i want work done on the exaust just dont really know all the tech stuff... apollo what have u done to your exaust? i was jsut thinking as what u said start at the start, so maybe extractors and do some work on teh cat... but i need to know what can be done to it? what adjsutments can be made to the cat? or extractors for that matter?
anyone have any info?
thanks
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 04:24
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I havn't done anything to the exhaust. Yet. Let me stress yet. $$$ lack of currently.
But I'm definatly going for a 4-2-1 seperate plumb job (cat-front). I'm not too interested in cat-back ATM.
As for the cat, you could gut it (illegal) or try a more free flow one. But the cat isn't really the restriction anyway. Do the exhaust plumbing first. I also think you can enlarge the hole going into the cat for a larger pipe too.
Just a thought, since you have a V engine, did you consider having two cats? Dual pipe it to a large single out the rear, or even two mufflers. Something to consider if you have the $$$ and the space under the car.
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The intake pipe from behind the headlight to the airbox probably isn't as free flowing as it could be (It certainly wasn't on my corolla. The headlight is actually quite close to the inlet which would restrict flow somewhat I imagine. I think there would be worthwhile gains to be had by redirecting the intake down into the front guard (where there may be a resonator (which you could remove)). As an example - on my car I used the intake piping from a 3.8L commodore motor as the basis for my intake. Its nice and big in diameter and smooth on the inside. It also collects air from outside the engine bay which should be cooler..
I also modified the airbox by getting rid of plastic flashing that intruded into the airflow path. A small detail but every little bit counts.
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Personally I'm happy with my intake. But that plastic flashing thing got my attention. I might have to pull out the airbox to see if I can find what you mean there. Bottom half or top half?
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 07:34
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Extractors on the 3VZ-FE engine are a complete bitch to do. Due to the pipe design, the engine basically has to be removed for a new set to be installed. The rear manifold cannot be removed easily (or at all) without much effort.
When I had my Vienta (1996), I tried to get a quote for some extractors, but the guy said I'd basically have to give him my 18" wheels to cover the labour costs for the job, not including materials 
Best of luck to you though, the 3VZ-FE engine is not an easy engine to modify unfortunately.
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 09:16
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| Soarer wrote on Mon, 24 June 2002 5:34 PM |
Extractors on the 3VZ-FE engine are a complete bitch to do. Due to the pipe design, the engine basically has to be removed for a new set to be installed. The rear manifold cannot be removed easily (or at all) without much effort.
When I had my Vienta (1996), I tried to get a quote for some extractors, but the guy said I'd basically have to give him my 18" wheels to cover the labour costs for the job, not including materials
Best of luck to you though, the 3VZ-FE engine is not an easy engine to modify unfortunately.
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whoa thanks for that soarer... kinds got me thinking now, looks like i wont be doing any mods to it me thinks 
soarer when u had ur vienta did u do any mods to it? interested to know what else can be done to the 3vz
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 14:53
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I don't like being the bearer of bad news, but unfortunately it does sometimes happen.
The only engine mod I did to the Vienta was a K&N pod filter and custom bracket for the AFM.
I had a 5" 5Zigen Cannonball muffler attached where the regular muffler goes. Sounded nice and deep... not too much of a drone. Certainly turned heads.
I also got the (super soft) suspension done. 4 new springs lowered 2 inches all around, and some damn stiff sway bars. The sway bars made a huuuuuuge difference. Totally transformed the car. It was awesome to drive with them so stiff... I could take corners waaaay quicker than before.
I was quite pleased with the power of the 3VZ until the turbo bug got me, so I didn't do any other mods to the car.
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 06:18
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yeah so far ive done a replacement k and n filter for the air box, and its riding on lowered King springs atm.... was thinking about a sway bar, but was thinking would it make much diff in my car? what sway bar did u purchase and whre from? how mcuh?
what kind of stores specialise in installing sway bars?
heh my car wieghs in at 1400kg plus some equipemtn in teh boot! so its a heavy buggar!
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 12:35
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I got mine custom made at KMac in Sydney. I think they were 26mm front and 24mm rear. About 400% stiffer than stock 
I think they set me back about $500 fitted and supplied.
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 12:44
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hey dont get all uptight cos you may have to whip the engine out. you can hire an engine crane out for about 33 bucks for a whole day and to tell ya the truth it aint that hard to take an engine out. you could probably get it all done and new extracotrs installed within a day or a weekend.
but you do need to get your hands on a range of different sized sockets and spanners.
and label every single thing with masking tape and numbers as you disconnect them.
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Taree, 4h nth of syd
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 12:53
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hey there all, the v6 is a very good motor, not much u can do to them, but there is a nice little mod that will make it go alot faster but it cost some $$$ they cam standard in Nz and can buy the kits here from TRD, and it is a nice supercharger   as far as i know it sits between the heads and runs off the timing belt, the bolt holes r already there and ready for it, hehe i will find out the price of the kit for u at work tomorrow (wend) i work for toyota so i will try and get a better price as well for u, i'll also try and find a pic of it for u
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Taree, 4h nth of syd
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Brisbane, QLD, Australia
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 22:44
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By the look of it, I don't think those superchargers would fit.
97 model onwards, I guess you need a 1mz-fe engine and not a 3vz-fe.
Plus those are the exact same price as the turbo kit for the 5sfe.
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Wed, 26 June 2002 02:03
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Apollo, you are correct. They only fit the 1MZ-FE, and do not fit onto a 3VZ-FE.
Someone in the group here tried to make one fit I think, but some non-removable engine components get in the way and prevent it being installed on a 3VZ.
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Wed, 26 June 2002 02:40
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So what are the pros and cons of stiffer swaybars?
Do you actually mean stabilizer bar?
If so, I have my manual open in front of me, I see the rear one they have in a picture, but all they have for the front is something called a stabilizer bar link. Is that just a placeholder for one to be fitted to the front and there is none at the front?
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melbourne, australia
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June 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Wed, 26 June 2002 12:36
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ahh damnit i hate my car!!!!  farking hand me down! 
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Thu, 27 June 2002 02:28
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Sway bars reduce the amount of roll when turning corners. The stiffer they are, the less roll you will experience.
Pros: taking corners a bit faster. You also remove that wonderful stock Camry feel of the car handling like a boat due to the extra stiffness.
Cons: no idea really. I didn't notice any for the year or so that I had mine. You can get bars that are too stiff though, but I don't know what problems they would introduce.
Sway bars are installed underneath the car, and not to be confused with strut tower braces which are installed under the bonnet (obviously across the strut towers).
Apollo, your car should have one at the front and rear.
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June 2002
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Thu, 27 June 2002 02:52
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can u tell me the differences between a strut bar and sway bars do?
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Thu, 27 June 2002 04:51
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| Soarer wrote on Thu, 27 June 2002 12:28 PM |
Sway bars reduce the amount of roll when turning corners. The stiffer they are, the less roll you will experience.
Pros: taking corners a bit faster. You also remove that wonderful stock Camry feel of the car handling like a boat due to the extra stiffness.
Cons: no idea really. I didn't notice any for the year or so that I had mine. You can get bars that are too stiff though, but I don't know what problems they would introduce.
Sway bars are installed underneath the car, and not to be confused with strut tower braces which are installed under the bonnet (obviously across the strut towers).
Apollo, your car should have one at the front and rear.
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I want to know, is the sway bar what they discribe as the stabilizer bar in the manual I have?
The rear one is under the car, and at the front is a little thing that is labelled Stabilizer bar link and it's on the main control arm both sides by the look of the picture.
Am I looking at the right parts? Because there is nothing about sway bars.
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Thu, 27 June 2002 07:24
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Sway bars, anti-roll bars, stabiliser bars are all the same thing. They reduce body roll by changing the pressure on the inner spring during cornering.
Strut tower bars, braces and beams are all the same thing too. These just act to increase the rigidity of hte car by keeping the suspension towers apart. You can have them on both the front and rear suspension towers though the front is more common. The ae92 SX corolla comes with one standard.
HTH.
Monty
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Thu, 27 June 2002 11:08
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Cool, thanks. I'm looking at the right thing then.
I read a bit more, there is actually a stabilizer bar at the front. It seems to be a two part job like the rear seems to be as well.
Would it gain the same effect if I put a stiffer stabilizer on the rear and a strut brace on the front under the bonnet?
Would that do the same as stiffer stabilizers front and rear?
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Re: mods to a camry?
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:17
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AHHHHH!!!! I have a cracked manifold on my 94 Vienta, does anyone know where i can get extractors for the damn car????
No one seems to make them.... I live in queensland, so anyone who supplys them around here would be nicer
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