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icon5.gif  UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Wed, 14 May 2003 11:51 Go to next message
http://members.optusnet.com.au/christopha/

I am studying HSC Design and Tech
For my major project i have decided to design and build a new front bar for my MA61 Supra.
The link is to a page with design sketches on it, take a look.
Can ppl please help me by giving design suggestions, any opinions, likes, dislikes, technical advice etc.
Thanks very much in advance.
This will be a big help. Smile
And also if you do help can u please give your name so i can acknowledge you in my resource references.
Thanks again

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Re: Take a Look at This Wed, 14 May 2003 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Take a Look at This Wed, 14 May 2003 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
8 & 2 , the ones that also have the inlets on either side look best I reckon,the flare on the bottom of 8 would also go nicely with the flares around the wheels, but you'll find that everyone will have a differnt opion Very Happy Cant help you with tech advice but name is Nathan Smile
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Re: Take a Look at This Wed, 14 May 2003 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i like 2, 8
dont like 5
photoshop might interperet your ideas better.
which road are you taking? function or form?
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Re: Take a Look at This Wed, 14 May 2003 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks guys so far

yeh i guess its mostly form..
im only runnin a basic 5me..
and i dont think any engine upgrades are in the works for a long time ($$$$)
so yeh its basically for show

the sketches by the way are just a preliminary research thing
the proper plans will recieve treatment from freehandMX or mayb autoCAD. Smile
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Re: Take a Look at This Wed, 14 May 2003 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah I liked 2,4, and 8. I peffered to have the side grills on the bar. Also with those side grills i liked them square to match the rest of the car. However the trianglar ones on number 2 still did look great.

Luke the Stitt

If you need a hand one of mates just finished Design and tech for the HSC 2 years ago, and now he fiberglasses for a living. He and I for a while there were looking at doing this kind of thing in our spare time on the weekends.
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2.
Why? Because, as I am a "Function over form" man, it appeals to me as being the best of the shown designs to actually aid cooling of:
A) The radiator and
B) the brakes (achieved via ducts behind the side inlets).

A basic design rule would/should be, "if it doesn't improve one or more of the vehicles systems, it should be discarded".

(Hence my distaste for useless "Rice" add-ons!)
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well i guess funtcion is an issue
coz i hav been looking into the areas that require cooling and taking photo and video of where brake ducts could go and where the radiator needs airflow.
but the aesthetics are also important

thanks again 4 ur help ppl
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think 2 is pretty good. It makes it look meaner
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
8 is my pick. You can't have any curves on a MA61 supra. Having the square vents to the brake ducts would be great.

I like the way that 7 looks like its an extension of the wheel flare instead of something else added on.
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
8 & 2 baby
mainly 8... I agree that the supra needs angles, not curves
what's the chances of you finding a fibreglasser to make me up one in the batch? Smile
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Number 2 looks best.

Have you tried photo shopping it? To get a more realistic look
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I like number 8 the best...
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Re: Take a Look at This Thu, 15 May 2003 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i like number 2

but i think its cause its drawn a little better than some of the others, and the skirt blends in better.

seriously, you could do with photoshop!! save the effort of drawing the same thing over and over again. plus you can blend stuff much more accurately, and get a better idea as to how it will REALLY look.

CAD etc is better for knocking it up once you have the style down. way too much effort for brainstoming ideas

that said, make a mould and sell the things... ill buy one!
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Re: Take a Look at This Fri, 16 May 2003 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeh i think the square lines look better too

thatd be cool, if the project is a success mayb i cud put them on the market! Very Happy

thanks again guys for the input
and i might redo one or two designs on the computer as a formality so i might post them up later

once again thanks as this is a great help 2 my project Very Happy
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Re: Take a Look at This Fri, 16 May 2003 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You do realise that now you've told us about it you've gotta keep us up to speed on how its going and the marks you get for it!
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Re: Take a Look at This Fri, 16 May 2003 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, I'm going for 2 mainly, aand 8. Definetly let us know how it goes though!
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Re: Take a Look at This Fri, 16 May 2003 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2 and 8

If you get one made up anytime soon ill possibly buy one too!

I seem to think 8 is the stock front bar with a lower lip extention thou.
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Re: Take a Look at This Fri, 16 May 2003 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm big on not messing with the original lines of a car and for this reason I'm going to have to say I like number 7.

I think it would look the closest to a factory item rather than an aftermarket addon which is a plus in my book. Others might prefer people to know that you have a custom bodykit just by looking though.
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Re: Take a Look at This Sat, 17 May 2003 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yay i spent all day making new drawings with fireworks4
enuff effort, they look so much betta than shitty handdrawings
take another look.... Smile
they look betta
some of hte kits dont look so bad anymore...
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Re: UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Sat, 17 May 2003 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mate, your very talented with fireworks! Those drawings are great! I have to say looking now, that I'm more a fan of 3 and 4. I'm not sure why I said 2 before, maybe the numbers have changed, or maybe my opion has changed Razz But that smiley face look just doesn't do the MA61 justice, its got a very square feel to it, and I dont feel that should be messed with. If its gonna have any roundness its gotta be like the flares around the wheels, so the lip at the front on 3 and 4 I like. Good stuff! Hopefully by the time your finished I'll be a proud owner of a MA61 and might buy one off you Smile

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Re: UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Sun, 18 May 2003 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well with the new drawings I seem to like number 6 the best, but the centre air dam would look better if the corners were rounded... They look odd as they're perfectly square...
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Re: UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Mon, 19 May 2003 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I like number 4.
My choice changed with the new cad designs.
Man your great with these drawings. Just keep the square look going with the car. It will always look good. Just don't put a curvey kit on it.
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Re: UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Mon, 19 May 2003 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They all look pretty good.

One thing that you need to consider which I have noticed with yout drawings. You will notice that the original one tapers back as it drops, while yours seem to be more blunt. Not bad if thats the style you are after, but makes your front overhang a bit longer and if you are dropping the lip a bit further it will be easily damaged on driveways and speedhumps.

My suggestion is to give it a cranked taper similar to the standard bar, but styled like your No.8 design. Maybe even go for a 1-1.5 inch chamfer on the cut-outs.

That bug centre cutout is just begging for a big polished intercooler to fill it.

Cheers

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Re: UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Mon, 19 May 2003 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Number 2 makes the car look tough and aggressive! i also liked 3 and 8 but i would deffinatly stick with the ideas in 2. Good work and keep it up...let us know the end results Smile
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Re: UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Wed, 21 May 2003 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mel, you got 19 posts already... You're moving up fast in the world Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ...

Welcome to the club anywayz...
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Re: UPDATED---->Take a Look at This PLZ:) Thu, 22 May 2003 07:25 Go to previous message
once again
thanks heaps to everyone who helped.
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