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 4AGZE rebuild questions/opinions
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Thu, 15 May 2003 01:37
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Ok,
Time has come where im at a crossroads as what to do..
Please give me your opinions etc on the following.
1: Take my series 1 GZE, rebuild it, put her back in.
2: buy a series 3 GZE ae101, rebuild it, Nevo pulley.
3: buy a series 3 GZE ae101, rebuild it, drop blower.. spend huge dollars and make manifold for t28, buy a/m computer etc.
Now i would love to do number 3, but its gonna be biiiig dollars.
I dont really wanna rebuild my current jobbie cause it doesnt have the real forgies, no oil squirters etc.. also lower comp.
My real question is.. How hard would it be the mate a cut loom of a s3 GZE to mate up with my S1 Gear, Can i just use the current loom and stick that onto the S3 motor? 
ALso does any1 have a GZE rebuild book/Pdf file? anything?
Fire away with what you think?
And no i dont wanna go for a 3s into a Aw11 Mr2.. Not my ideal car. id rather do a 4agte jobbie.
Feel free to tell me what you think.
Thanks,
Lyle
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Re: 4AGZE rebuild questions/opinions
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Thu, 15 May 2003 03:46
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im assuming you are talking about an AW11 MR-2 from your comments.
I have a few ideas that might help you here mate. My advice is as follows if you are scared of taking the No.3 route due to cost, or even No.2 route (you would end up with a spare GZE then..). I might mention the fact that your GZE would be Air Flow Meter type, whereas later model (AE101) GZE's are MAP sensored, and i think that might create a few problems in matching up running gear, if you were to do a loom swap etc...
So here's what you do:
1/ Ok. Buy the bottom end of a late AE92 100kW 4A-GE, these are the same block as the late model GZE with the oil squirters, extra ribbing etc.... just make sure it is in good condition. Or better yet, buy a shagged 100kW 4a-ge that someone is selling due to a conversion. This will give you your "series 3 block"
2/ Buy yourself the late model higer compression GZE forged pistons, complete with ceramic coating and all. Cost was $400 last time someone told me. Im not 100% about rods being the same, but i would assume that they are (between early gze and late gze)
3/ Continue your rebuild from there in the usual way, having just upgraded to the later model (series 3) GZE bottom end. Maybe do some porting/polishing, a nicer camshaft etc etc. Or maybe go the turbo route! 
Good luck mate!
<edit> bad grammer 
[Updated on: Thu, 15 May 2003 03:47]
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Re: 4AGZE rebuild questions/opinions
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Thu, 15 May 2003 04:44
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Thanks for all that man...
I thought the rods would be different to get the higher comp?
Im really avoiding it.. Im not going to be happy until i turbo a ZE.. so i think im might just have to bite the bullet..
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Re: 4AGZE rebuild questions/opinions
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Thu, 15 May 2003 06:14
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Rebuild the GZE you've got and turbo it. If you're going to rebuild the engine anyway it may as well be the one you've already bought, the compression difference is only different pistons which you'll replace anyway. I really don't see a huge need for the oil squirters, sure they're nice but I wouldn't replace one GZE with another just for squirters.
I say:
1 Rebuild the GZE with late model GZE pistons and your old NA 4AGE cams
2 Get a manifold with a T25 flange made up
3 Run a decent programmable management system, and these days that means pretty much any of the current model Australian made computers
4 Get either a T28 from and S15, or a GT28 built to make whatever power level you're aiming for
5 Get a fabricated intake manifold with the throttle body in a decent location and a decent size plenum
6 bigger injectors
7 Fuel pump that will support the 180KW+ that you'll be putting to the wheels
8 Now find someone with some quality tuning skills and watch the power numbers go through the roof
9 Give me a ride in it
Ah what a simple thing it is to write, pity it's just that little bit more complex to do in the real world.
3S is where it's at for me though!
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