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Shotgun
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4age dying after 3-5 seconds Fri, 16 May 2003 12:02 Go to next message
I am just completing the conversion of my JDM ae85 to full ae86 spec. Ok, the 4age is in car now and it is starting well then dying after a consistent 3-5 seconds. If you open the throttle even slightly it dies also. Thought the fuel pump wasn't going 100% so I hard wired that and no change. It's getting good spark, injectors are fine and no apparent vacuum leaks. I can't think of anything that would produce such a consistently timed problem. Having water or air bubbles in the fuel system wouldn't cause this would it? Coil and igniter are fine.

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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Sat, 17 May 2003 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TPS? I think others have had the same problems b4, searched?

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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Sat, 17 May 2003 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
check the fuel pressure relief valve on the end of the fuel rail..is the vacume line connected?, is it maintaining a min 40Psi?
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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Sat, 17 May 2003 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, I've unplugged the 4 main injectors and it runs exactly the same. So the cold start injector is fueling for the 3-5 seconds and turning off - no fuel. So it'd be safe to say that the fuel system itself is ok because there's enough pressure for the cold start to do it's thing. So this means my injectors aren't doing their job. Any idea what kind of voltages it should be receiving?
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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Sat, 17 May 2003 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have discussed this prob with a few people who have said it sounds like a faulty resistor pack... Going off info in tech reference I should have 1 ohm injectors (it's a 4age from an '83 JDM ae86) which require a resistor pack. Correct? If so, I can't locate mine. Where should it be located in the loom (if infact I should have one)?

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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Sat, 17 May 2003 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
have you checked that the earth for the injectors is good?? and that there is a signal leaving the ecu to power them??
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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Sat, 17 May 2003 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The way injectors work is when the key is turned on there is continuous power supply to the injectors . The ECU operates the injectors by switching them to earth , Unplug all the injectors and with a multi meter check if there is power at the injector plugs , one terminal in each plug should have power .

Trevor

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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Mon, 19 May 2003 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if it has an airflow meter it all smells much like that not connected properly to me... I could be wrong but worth a check..
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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Mon, 19 May 2003 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I had the same problem on my 3tgte, turned out to be the fuel pressure regulator. Try clamping the fuel return line and see if it runs
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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Mon, 19 May 2003 02:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Out of interest, what fuel pump are you using?

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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Tue, 20 May 2003 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Using complete JDM ae86 tank, loom and lines.
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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Tue, 20 May 2003 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
check to see if yr ignitor is earthed or is sendin a signal to ecu

the ignitor sends a return signal to ecu sayin everything is ok
after that signal the ecu will pulse the injectors

if the ignitor body aint earthed it wont send a return signal
make sure u havnt bolted ignitor on paint or even just let it hang

can u get a multimeter with a digital tacho


check if u have rpm at ingitor black wire or ig- on diagnostic box
then check if u have rpm on black/yellow trace wire on ignitor

check to see if u have 12 yolts on black/orange trace wire on ingniotr/coil/injectors wehn ignition is on

theres lots to check but its either rpm or 12 volts

[Updated on: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:53]

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Re: 4age dying after 3-5 seconds Thu, 22 May 2003 10:42 Go to previous message
Sorted. Relay problem. Thanks for the input gents.
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