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Muriel
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Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Mon, 19 May 2003 11:55 Go to next message
I'm thinking of putting on of these motors into my EH but dont know which one to choose can you help my decide which one to get as they are the same price..
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Mon, 19 May 2003 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i would say the 308gzte would be the best option

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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Mon, 19 May 2003 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd pick the 1ggte - slightly more power I believe, and easier to get more power out of - and you are going to need it in an EH wagon..
Have you thought about the 1J? - more expensive, but 500 extra cc's to play with and a more power ..
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Mon, 19 May 2003 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how much does the EH weigh?, the torque of a 1JZ-GTE or 7M-GTE would suit the car much better than a 1G
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Mon, 19 May 2003 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes i agree, one of my mates has an eh sedan with a 7mgte & goes quite well
personally id go 1j Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Tue, 20 May 2003 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I am told there is an HR running around with a 1G-GTE in it, I am told it runs really well. It is used as a tow car for a tarted up torana.

The old EH is probably a similar weight to a GA70 supra anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it was lighter.

The original EH only had a single carby fed 2.5L motor in it anyway. The 1G will be a huge improvement in both torque and power.
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Tue, 20 May 2003 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
An EH weighs about the same as an RA28 and probably lighter after the transplant. Sounds like a great swap to me.
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Tue, 20 May 2003 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EH's are a great classic cruiser, lightweight, and built like a paperclip... A 1G would probably be a good choice though, turbo being the easiest to find more power in, although the supercharged motors can sometimes be had even cheaper than the turbo ones, and it does occasionally confuse people.

And PLEASE do something with the EH brakes, steering and suspension. Please! HR 'balljoint' front end is the easy option, although it's hardly gonna set dynamic records unless played with further...
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Tue, 20 May 2003 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mrshin wrote on Tue, 20 May 2003 15:41

EH's are a great classic cruiser, lightweight, and built like a paperclip... A 1G would probably be a good choice though, turbo being the easiest to find more power in, although the supercharged motors can sometimes be had even cheaper than the turbo ones, and it does occasionally confuse people.

And PLEASE do something with the EH brakes, steering and suspension. Please! HR 'balljoint' front end is the easy option, although it's hardly gonna set dynamic records unless played with further...


i dont think it would be able to get engineered with stock EH running gear Confused

didnt they have a drum brake front and rear end?
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Tue, 20 May 2003 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's TARE weight is 1132Kg.. Also all ready has a HR front end and a SUPRA gearbox.. Going to talk to an Engineer to find out what else I need to do to make this Legal..
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Tue, 20 May 2003 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you're going to the trouble of a conversion, I'd be tempted by the 7m or the 1j... the half-cut will only cost you a bit more (in the grand scheme of engine conversion costs) and will give you uber power.

but if you dont think you'll be wanting that sort of monstrous power, the 1g is a cheaper option
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Wed, 21 May 2003 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think the 1G supra box is different to the M series supras. Not sure if the bell housing will bolt on.

The 1G would be fine for an EH, but if the 7M or 1J bolts in ok, why not. Best to check with the local authorities as to what engine capacity you can get away with for that weight.
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Wed, 21 May 2003 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1132KG * 2.5 = 2830cc

so, you could go 1jz but not 7m. If the budget permits, i would go 1jz. It is a little longer though so better check dimensions.
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Wed, 21 May 2003 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1g supra box is a w58
which I just happen to have sitting behind my 1jz Smile
it requires a 2jz-ge bellhousing, but taht's about it
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Wed, 21 May 2003 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7M DOES FIT AS I SAID, AND IT IS ENGINEERED Very Happy Very Happy

the car also has a mitsubishi L300 front end, power steering & a vl commonhore disc brake rear end.

at 15psi the car runs ok, but a 1j or 2j would be the go Very Happy Very Happy
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Thu, 22 May 2003 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ive decided what motor and things to to..
1.202 Red Motor with 12 Port YellaTerra Head Stage 4 or 5 Cam with triple SUs and dyno tuned.. Power Output between 200 - 300Hp(268 - 402Kw)..Just a little bit more than the Festiva Very Happy Very Happy ..
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Thu, 22 May 2003 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nah muriel - you seriously want that 1JZ-GTE DUDE!! you saw how fast they are in a cressida!
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Thu, 22 May 2003 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
402kw from a holden six ? unless you either have your HP's and KW's aropund the wrong way thats sorta well - yeah .... Rolling Eyes
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Thu, 22 May 2003 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
300hp is a bit optimistic, but 400kW is laughable! Laughing

A 300hp 202 will be an absolute pig to drive. A 300hp 1G will be much, much nicer to live with, not to mention more reliable and use a fraction of the fuel. But if a 202 is what you want, go ahead!
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Fri, 23 May 2003 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just do the 2JZGE thing. 220 hp straight out of the box with plenty of potential, and they are the ugly duckling of the JZ series so they're nice and cheap.
It'd make for an interesting conversion rather than another run of the mill 202.
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Fri, 23 May 2003 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I told you before Muriel, just go the 1JZGTE...
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Fri, 23 May 2003 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ben, can you tell me why you call this young man Muriel? I asked Karl, but he didn't really know the story behind it.

So what happened to the Festiva? Written off in an acco?
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Re: Thinking of putting a 1GGTE or 1GGZE into EH Wagon Fri, 23 May 2003 23:59 Go to previous message
2JZ-GE

my mates dad put one of these into a old 1920's vauxhaul. I'll try and get him to bring it to the dyno day

and it hauls ass.
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