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v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 10:07
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I am thinking about putting a v8 into my sa63 celica. Does anyone know how hard it would be. i know someone with one in there hilux. How hard do u reckon it would be
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I supported Toymods
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 10:25
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I recommend talking to an Engineer first to find out what you have to do as it might not be legal..
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 10:47
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I recommend hiding before a whole lot of people start giving you some shit 
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 10:51
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i recommend i stay quiet 
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 10:53
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but seriously, refer to reply #1...
no point wasting your time debating somthing if its not even legal...
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 10:55
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It all depends on what KIND of V8 as to how much abuse you'll recieve from the less well mannered that reside amongst here  Say 'chev' or 'ford', and you'd best order a bomb shelter to hide from the grenades that shall be tossed your way...
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 11:46
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if you say 1uz people will think your a legend ..
nods to point one - Check engineer first - then proceed !
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 12:43
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And in the unlikely event of you uttering the words 3UZFE, you're going to need a drool shelter 
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 22:47
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Tue, 27 May 2003 22:43 |
And in the unlikely event of you uttering the words 3UZFE, you're going to need a drool shelter
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...and a truck-load of money!
Now, if you say "1GZ-FE" you'll be my new best friend!!! 
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Tue, 27 May 2003 23:26
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i did go to the engineer to ask about V8's(among other things) into the SA63 i have.
A 1uzfe will fit. but are extremly rare to find in wrecked manual form. easy enough to fit apparently and could be done for around 6K (quote) including engineering in auto form and about 10 - 12K in manual form.
A 5 litre commodore V8 will fit and can be done for about 5K for manual.
same for a ford i would imagine but i didn't get a quote for that.
a GEN3 V8 would cause problems with the steering among other things and the engine isn't that great anyway
i've researched quite a few options and am going to put a 1ggte in my car because its been done and is a fairly straight forward process compared to other swaps.
hope this helps
mat
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 00:23
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1GZ-FE is hardly a V8 now is it?  I was thinking it though 
1UZFE is REALLY rare in manual, actually, thats non-existant, because they all came with auto's. There are numerous kits to convert them to manual though, its like $1000 worth of parts. Weighs about the same as the 1GGTE too.
Having an iron V8 over the front of your wheels I'd say would be one of the WORST things you could do for handling, only do that if you drive in straight lines.
The Gen3 is NOT a good engine until you throw some money at it. It has problems with pistons slapping against the side of the cylinders. Anything that's "normal" to use 5+ litres of oil between services is something I'd wanna avoid.
A 1GGTE would make sense bang/buck, but the 1UZ would be nice 
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 02:02
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i thaught that some soarers (2-5%) came with a manual 1UZFE setup. ahh well theyre even rarer than i thaught. the extra price i quoted was to put a celica/supra box behind the engine with a different computer as the standard computer would be for an auto or something like that.
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 02:06
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About 5% of the 1JZGTE Soarers were manual, but none of the V8's.
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 02:10
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ahh thats where i went wrong. thanks for the correction justcallmefrank.
a 1jzgte is also an option. a guy in queensland had it done.
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 02:20
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 10:23 |
1GZ-FE is hardly a V8 now is it? I was thinking it though
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*laughs* True, but I thought I'd throw it in anyway. It may surprise you to know that there isn't that much difference between the prices of the two units. (If you're thinking $30K for each you *may* get some change...)
Anyway, what's a litre and 4 cylinders between friends???
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 02:23
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You mean between the 1GZFE and the 3UZFE? Is the 3UZFE really that expensive?
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 02:42
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 12:23 |
You mean between the 1GZFE and the 3UZFE? Is the 3UZFE really that expensive?
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i would say so, the 3UZ was only released a year or two ago with the soarer (or SC430) and LS430
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 05:21
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| mrshin wrote on Tue, 27 May 2003 20:55 |
It all depends on what KIND of V8 as to how much abuse you'll recieve from the less well mannered that reside amongst here ...
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It's also polite to listen and take heed of any 'advice' proferred.
For example, some of you might remember something like this *:
Jonno MA71: I wanna put a Keith Black 350 in my MA71. I wanna run it with 1969 specs and it will put out over 600 hp.
Helpful poster 1: You might want to check the legality of that capacity engine in that vehicle with the relevant authorities in your state. You certainly won't get it engineered if it isn't meeting emissions...
Helpful poster 2: Why not an LS1? It will meet all the emissions requirements and it has an all alloy construction...just have to check with the relevant authorities regarding capacity.
Biased but helpful poster 3: LS1s are rattly, oil burning wrecks. Just drop a 1UZ in there. They rock.
Jonno MA71: Nah, piss off with all that shit. I want my 350. Will the Getrag R154 be OK or should I run a Borg Warner 4 speed from a Corona or a Top Loader? I have access to a Dana 11" truck diff. Does anyone make a kit for these? I don't want to drag race it, except when I'm drag racing, which will be every weekend....
Repeat above for about 4 or 5 pages, repeat the same theme in other inane threads and soon helpful posters 1,2 and 3 might start to post stuff about antimatter propulsion units. 'Relatives' of the original poster might 'pop up'.
Pick a light V8 that complies with your state's requirements. Good luck with your conversion.
*The names have barely been changed so the guilty are not really protected.
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 05:27
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| gianttomato wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 15:21 |
| mrshin wrote on Tue, 27 May 2003 20:55 |
It all depends on what KIND of V8 as to how much abuse you'll recieve from the less well mannered that reside amongst here ...
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It's also polite to listen and take heed of any 'advice' proferred.
For example, some of you might remember something like this *:
Jonno MA71: I wanna put a Keith Black 350 in my MA71. I wanna run it with 1969 specs and it will put out over 600 hp.
Helpful poster 1: You might want to check the legality of that capacity engine in that vehicle with the relevant authorities in your state. You certainly won't get it engineered if it isn't meeting emissions...
Helpful poster 2: Why not an LS1? It will meet all the emissions requirements and it has an all alloy construction...just have to check with the relevant authorities regarding capacity.
Biased but helpful poster 3: LS1s are rattly, oil burning wrecks. Just drop a 1UZ in there. They rock.
Jonno MA71: Nah, piss off with all that shit. I want my 350. Will the Getrag R154 be OK or should I run a Borg Warner 4 speed from a Corona or a Top Loader? I have access to a Dana 11" truck diff. Does anyone make a kit for these? I don't want to drag race it, except when I'm drag racing, which will be every weekend....
Repeat above for about 4 or 5 pages, repeat the same theme in other inane threads and soon helpful posters 1,2 and 3 might start to post stuff about antimatter propulsion units. 'Relatives' of the original poster might 'pop up'.
Pick a light V8 that complies with your state's requirements. Good luck with your conversion.
*The names have barely been changed so the guilty are not really protected.
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ROFLMFAO....
*Note to GT - Please preface such posts in future with the words "Do not read this at work, as you will make a twat of yourself laughing on the floor..."*
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 05:31
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 12:23 |
You mean between the 1GZFE and the 3UZFE? Is the 3UZFE really that expensive?
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I confess, the only one I've ever heard of for sale was sitting on the docks in it's factory wrapping (ie. brand new) for around $25K...Now that I think of it, the 1GZ price I "came across" (in a figurative sense! ) was around $35K?? Something like that, anyway. Hell, cheap at twice the price! 
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 05:33
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The "Golden 3 Weeks" of Toymods.
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 05:48
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gold dave, gold....
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 06:40
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I agree with biased GT... although I'm lucky enough not to have any witnesses to me laughing till I choke
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 06:43
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I'd go the 1uz
if you could see the 1jz in my ma61 supra engine bay, then imagine that engine bay a few inches shorter, you'll get the idea of how difficult the jz will be into an sa63
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 08:06
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GT: gold!!
I like the idea of a 1UZ in an SA63. I can't see why it wouldn't fit, and it's not excessively heavy. They're also good value at the moment; I've seen front cuts advertised for $2200 recently.
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Wed, 28 May 2003 08:07
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It should fit, its probably if anything a tad shorter than a 1GGTE, and by all accounts its only a smidge heavier. Gotta love all-alloy construction.
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Wed, 28 May 2003 08:33
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| Norbie wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 18:06 |
GT: gold!!
I like the idea of a 1UZ in an SA63. I can't see why it wouldn't fit, and it's not excessively heavy. They're also good value at the moment; I've seen front cuts advertised for $2200 recently.
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$2200?!?!? Get me TWO!!!!
Got names/phone numbers of the guilty parties?
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Fri, 30 May 2003 02:13
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I know of a man who put a 4. something litre lexus twin turbo V8 in his 1975 celica, but spare about 20 to 30 grand for the project
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Fri, 30 May 2003 02:40
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[quote title=Nark wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 18:33]| Norbie wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 18:06 |
$2200?!?!? Get me TWO!!!!
Got names/phone numbers of the guilty parties?
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Looks like the price has gone up: $2400.
http://www.japparts.com.au/products/stock-arriving .html
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Fri, 30 May 2003 03:04
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| 'poster' wrote on Fri, 30 May 2003 12:13 |
I know of a man who put a 4. something litre lexus twin turbo V8 in his 1975 celica, but spare about 20 to 30 grand for the project
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<sarchasm>Who would hear of such a man?? Most of us toymodders are do-it-yourself cheap bastards. 20-30 grand is out of most of our price ranges.</sarchasm>
Not intended to hurt original poster, for humour purposes only.
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Fri, 30 May 2003 03:14
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Looks exactly like mine - I paid $2500. Thanks Andrew V from Central Vic Auto Parts!
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Fri, 30 May 2003 03:31
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Its even got the black plastic bit that covers the leads that switch banks. Very rare!
Looks like it says V6 but we all know what it REALY is
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Fri, 30 May 2003 06:05
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WOW Dave!! awesome photoshop job! i like how u dumped it on 10 inch steelies, chopped the top, and have the bonnet come up like that!!!
PIMPIN' BRO!
 
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Re: v8 engine into a sa63 celica
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Fri, 30 May 2003 12:24
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ahhh....the memories of what it USED to look like.
here's one from the other side after just being pulled off the trailer that you can see in the bottom of the pic.
then....after taking a few things off...
and then...the fun begins!
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