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MRTA22
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3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Tue, 25 June 2002 08:53 Go to next message
Hi everyone, i have finally got up to starting my car and now the barsted has no spark. I am running an INJEC computer with Ford igniters and a modified dizzy. The engine and computer was in my old Celica and ran fine and all i did was swap it all over. I have power to the coils (both - and +)when i turn the ignition on,the injectors fire when i crank it etc etc. It seems that the "pulse" from the dizzy isnt getting to the computer or the computer isnt outputting it?? I have tried everything and i cant find a thing. My mates sparkie friend had a look today and he thinks its the computer,but i havent done anything to it!!!!
So if anyone can offer any advice (other than to burn the car or toss the computer!!!) then i would really appreciate it. I am the worst person with electrics and i just get pissed off and give up. Thanks fellas in advance.

Jamie.
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Tue, 25 June 2002 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dumb question maybe but are the ignitors grounded?
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Tue, 25 June 2002 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Strutto, yes they are they are screwed to the radiator support. The dizzy must be working cause the computer uses it to pick up the rpm of the engine and it increases as the engine is wound over. The problem i think is in either the computer or the signal wire to the ignitors. The car is at my mates shop so i cant muck around with it till the weekend but i need ideas. No suggestion is stupid!!

Jamie.
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Tue, 25 June 2002 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep, by my reckoning the problem must be either in the computer or the ignitors. Have you grounded the computer?
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icon14.gif  Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Wed, 26 June 2002 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
good choice in motor mate!!!

i just installed 3T-GTE in my AE86 and had a similar problem!

i use a haltech ecu and i found that my symptoms were similar,

the problem was a bad earth to the injector,ignters and dizzy.

all are TRD items.

the problems were that the earth was on the chassis, the alternator was sending a positive pulse into the chassis which made the earth into a positive charge , therefore confused the ecu.

check ur chassis charge and make sure it isnt putting out positive reading?

this positive charge can be caused by numorous things like a fucked battery, incorrect wiring to audio equiptment, and mine was a fucked headlight re wiring job by a local (dodgy) auto electrician!!!!!(didnt know he was dodgy till that time though)

hoope this helps u out!!!

P.s where did u get them wheels from and are they a 114 mm offset as i want a set desperatly for my AE86 and no-one in tas can get any wheels like that for me.[

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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Wed, 26 June 2002 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie,
i know your not an electics person, Rolling
But did you remember to put spark plugs in the little holes in the top of the motor? Razz

Good luck mate
Stew
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Wed, 26 June 2002 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey Jamie

If the injectors are firing, then the dizzy must definately be sending a signal to the ECU.

Surely then it can only be ignitors or coils? are you still running twin spark?

Is there a way to manually trigger the coils just to see if you get a spark?

Sorry for the lame reply, its not really that helpful, but ill think about it more tonight

Cheers

Phil
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Wed, 26 June 2002 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blacksprinter,

Good to see someone put a decent engine ia an AE86 at last ! Wink

J/K would love to hear details on your ride.


Jamie,

Sorry mate electrics are not my thing and definatly not EFI. SAS bug fixed Scrotes 3TGTEU so if you get desperate try them.
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Thu, 27 June 2002 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi everyone, thanks for the replys. I have finally gone and looked at it and the dizzy is definately giving signal cause the rpm is reading on the computer. The wiring from the computer to the ignitors is correct as well. The ignitors are wired correctly as are the coils and both have power and good earth. My guess is that my mate has shorted something on the relays and sent too much amps to the computer and possibly blown a resistor. Cry
Does anyone know a good place to check out computers in Sydney???If not ill send it back to INJEC in Melbourne.

Thanks again.
Jamie.
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Thu, 27 June 2002 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie ,

Dont stuff around , get that computer on its way o'nite frieght to melbourne to be checked out !!!


Dyno day is not far away.

Eliminate the computer as a fault source.

anything else can be rectified in the days before, just get it there so they can get it back.


good luck from a 3T fan from way back .


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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Thu, 27 June 2002 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie,

Matt had to send his computer back to melbourne at least twice - with suspected shorting uot etc.
Each time they returned it - saying they didn't fix anything, but low and behold the car went again!

Hurry Up!

Stew
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Re: 3TGTEU No Spark (Aftermarket ECU) HELP!! Thu, 27 June 2002 11:24 Go to previous message
Hi guys, thanks for the advice. I will send it on monday express post.(i cant get it till the weekend)
I have sent it back once before after a mechanic shop jump started it (wankers)and they shorted something out. INJEC reckon they didnt do anything but as soon as i got it back and plugged it in the car ran fine.
Once i can afford to ill replace the computer with motec (but thats a while away)
If i get the computer back quickly and can get my car tuned ill be at the dyno day.

Thanks agin.

Jamie
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