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sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 02:50
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hey guys
my sump is still leeking  , ive tried to fix the problem a few times its leeking from where it joins to the block, if i try to do up the little bolts they just keep snaping, feels like they should be alot tighter!.
I used "silastic" between the sandwich plate and the sump, ( i didint use much so that could be the problem) also could it be firing it out above the sandwich plate?
ive had enough! its driving me around the bend! whats the best way to stop it?
this is what i was thinking
*buy stronger bolts so when i tighten them they dont snap!
cheers
Craig
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 03:50
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if there is no gasket (silicone cork or whatever) between the sump and the block it will still leak no matter how tight the bolts are, so how tight you do the bolts is irrelevant.
so either get a gasket from toyota or do a proper job with the silicone.
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 03:55
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I just took the sump off my 1GGTEU, it had a nice sealing layer of silicon between the block and the baffle, and another layer between the baffle and the sump. Make sure it goes around the whole way and seals off properly before you tighten all the bolts.
Don't go overboard, but don't be afraid to put a little bit more to make sure you have it done right. After the pain in the arse it was to remove the silastic to get my sump off, I realise this is the way Toyota thought too 
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 03:56
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yeah get some locktite and pull the sump right off and make a good goo gasket.
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 04:56
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so is there a gasket ? rob i did have silicon on there but dont think i had enuff?
frank are u saying put silicon between the copper sandwichplate and block as well as between sandwichplate and sump?
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 05:25
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copper sandwitch plate?
do u mean u have a copper sandwitch plate going round the length of the block skirt?
ive seen a few 1G-GTE blocks and cannot recall ever seeing a copper sandwitchplate between the sump and block, how thick is it?
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 05:28
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im pretty sure its copper
ill take a pic of it when i pull my sump off
actually i might have one
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do u mean u have a copper sandwitch plate going round the length of the block skirt?
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yes i think thats it
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 05:43
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that sandwitch plate is weird... anyone else have a 1G with a sandwitch plate on the sump?
anyways im not sure how to explain how much silicon to use, i suppose use more that what u did before, what i did was run the stuff along the middle of the block skirt then when i got to a bolt hole i made a circle around it so the hole wouldnt get gunked up with silicone.
try to get the sump on in one go so the silicone only has to bubble/shape once, putting the sump on and then taking it off compromises the sealing shape by having already pushed alot of the silicone out to the sides and can cause leaks again.
hope this helps
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 05:44
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In mine I had to remove silicon from between the oil pan and the baffle, and the baffle and the block.
I'm assuming this is what you are talking about:
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 05:57
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yeah frank that looks like it ! except mine looked more copper coloured
do ya wreckon i should pull that off 2? and resilicon that?
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 05:59
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There should definetly be some silicon between both layers. I recommend if you are sure that its leaking from the sump, take it apart carefully and put it back together, making sure its done right.
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 09:22
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100% sure!
thanks heaps for your quick reply
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 09:24
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No probs dude, thats what I'm here for
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 09:29
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Craig
Agree that you may not have used enough silicon when you put it back together.
have been meaning to get back to you for some time. I assume that you no longer need the sump that I offered. One of the club member here in canberra was after a mid sump and I promised to check to see if you were still wanting the one that i had??
Craig
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Mon, 02 June 2003 09:50
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nar thanks craig, dont need it, thanks again i got one off phil a while back
thanks again for the offer
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Tue, 03 June 2003 00:49
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how do ya pull the steering arms off?
i have taken the split pins out and undone the bolts but dont wanna budge?
plz tell me i dont have to undo a ball joint?
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Tue, 03 June 2003 01:04
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i have undone the these on each side as well as the bolts on the wheel side
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 Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Tue, 03 June 2003 01:46
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From what I remember, the mid-rear sump has that gasket thing. The front sump doesn't...
Might explain the confusion Rob.
But trusting my memory is not a good idea.... 
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Re: sump leek (1ggte)
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Tue, 03 June 2003 02:22
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kewl thanks nark
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