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xpimp
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blew my 4th fuel pump today Tue, 03 June 2003 10:45 Go to next message
I really dont understand now, ive blown 3 external pumps and NOW an INTERNAL

Ive replaced lines and tank (to get the inline)

what could be causeing them to blow? all lines are at the correct size and they are blowing within 5kms of use!

could my regulator be faulty?

im seriously going nuts not, havent driven in 2 weeks
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xpimp
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Tue, 03 June 2003 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
also wats the reg pressure meant to be ill buy a damn pressure gauge 2mor
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Tue, 03 June 2003 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sounds like ya got a wiring problem, you must be pumping 14v to them they dont like that

if ya cant sort the wiring out try and make sure they are only getting 12v, you should be able to get something inline that will reduce ya voltage

thats if thats ya problem
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Wed, 04 June 2003 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yup, most fuel pumps are 12V, not 14-15V (but some are ok..)

what pumps are you using? is your regulator regulating?
if you need to bring the voltage down, you need a big assed resistor. since pumps use about 5Aish, you're looking at 60-70watts worth resistors!!! try to find a resistor pack from a car that had one for the fuel pump.
time to hit the wreckers, or at least check on the wiring diagrams of some EFI cars (maybe the ones the pumps are designed for..)

also a long shot, if the pumps flow a lot more than the standard one did, the pressure reg may not be able to flow enough to keep pressure down. if you were in sydney, you could borrow my gauge :/ there are Speco EFI fuel pressure gauges on ebay atm for like $28. they have 1/8 NPT fitting and they look good enough. that's the one i have.
Cya, Stewart
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Wed, 04 June 2003 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Definitely get a fuel pressure gauge. Excessive fuel pressure can kill pumps prematurely, and this can be caused by a faulty FPR or a blocked return line. Also check your tank for any crud floating around; fuel pumps don't like sucking up foreign objects.
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Wed, 04 June 2003 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Interesting

Thanks for all your replies

Also searching revealed a different wiring diagram than the one i had... I will post some pics when i get home am at uni at the moment. The one i had had no fuel pump resistor, this new wiring diagram does, and i looked in my bay and i sure do have a metal finned resistor (which i havent connected since it wasnt on the other diagram) Sad

Could this resistor be my problem all along?
Ill plug her in as per the new wiring diagram

Damn I wish i could get a 4agze tech+wiring mannual, does any1 have a online version?

Thanks for ur replies, ill check the voltage without the resistor too, im sure it was like 13.5V too, guess that could be the reason Mad

-XPimP

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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Wed, 04 June 2003 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
try these:
http://www.mr2ownersclub.com/images/bikeboy/89_wir ing_diagrams.pdf
aw11 4age/4agze

http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/ECU% 20Japan%20AE92%204A-GZE%2090-91.htm
ae92 4agze
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Wed, 04 June 2003 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If the price of a fuel pressure gauge seems inhabitive expensive for what you need it for then try this.

get a $5 tyre pressure gauge ripe the end off and valve if there is one and attach a T piece with rubber hose and you have a fuel pressure gauge. Sounds dodgy but cost $10 and work great I have been using mine for years with no problems. As I am to cheap to spend $150+ on a fuel pressure gauge which I don't use much. From ripping a few external pumps apart, I have found the biggest killer of pumps to be rust.

The roller bearing pumps are built with extremelly tight tolerances for obvouis purposes (force fuel through) the slightest amount of water or interfence from crap will bugger them fast.

[Updated on: Wed, 04 June 2003 23:11]

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Norbie
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Thu, 05 June 2003 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A tyre pressure gauge for high-pressure fuel? No thanks!

You don't have to spend anywhere near $150 on a gauge. Just get an oil pressure gauge (these don't cost much) and plumb it into the fuel rail. I have one of these in my Celica so I can keep an eye on the fuel pressure.
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Thu, 05 June 2003 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie,

Just saying for $10 you can build a guage, mine has work reliable for 2 years. An oil pressure gauge probaly works fine also.

But it is illegal to run high pressure fuel into the cabin. Tapping into the fuel rail seems a little to perminent for my likings, may be ok if you use a remote sender.
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Thu, 05 June 2003 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LOL, I'm not running fuel into the cabin... I'm using an electric gauge.
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Thu, 05 June 2003 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What I've never really seen a big assed resistor on a fuel pump. I have always wired the fuel pump into normal power supply which get up to th 15v mark. Are you sure the resistor in your engine bay isn't for the injectors?? Have you taken off the return line at the tank to see if there is any fuel coming back? Have you got the correct polarity? I'm also in Melbourne if you need a hand and I'm also an electrician.

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xpimp
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Re: blew my 4th fuel pump today Thu, 05 June 2003 11:16 Go to previous message
There certainly is a big assed resistor its in the engine bay mounted on the firewall. Im not sure as to whether it really matters though but the cressidas have them too cause my mate just brought one.

its a big metal finned thing :/ comes off the circuit opening relay... seems from the diagram to be on whenever the starter moter isnt running.

yer most pumps should be able to take 13.5V anyway from what i read but after all this problems i am getting desperate Sad

ill plug it up 2mor night been busy with uni work

also ill run REAL think wires to the pump so it doesnt heat up (the standard ones are medium sized so dont take too much current)

I am hoping this works cause its costing me way too much
Thanks for your offer for help, i might give u a msg/call soon, cause this things got me nutty LOL

Thanks
XPimP

[Updated on: Thu, 05 June 2003 11:19]

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