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Wattsie
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MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Sat, 07 June 2003 13:39 Go to next message
Howdy.
Has this been done b4? I don't want to reinvent the wheel and have found thorough research before you start pays off BIG TIME.
I have given up on the RA28/1UZ idea and am going to go for a MA61 project.
I have sourced a VERY nice, Aust delivered, stock, auto MA61 that will hopefully be sold to me in the next few weeks.
Does the manual conversion present any traps for young players? I did a W55 into my auto RA28 and assume the Supra would be a similar affair? This car is in such damn good condition I can't go past it - despite the auto trans.
I was going to go with the Dellow bell housing to mate the 1UZ (with aftermarket ECU) to the 5spd but need to know if the 1UZ will fit.
A mate had a 302 MA61 some time ago so I know those big old school donks fit in there!
Any info about any other aspects of this project would be MUCH appreciated.
Cheers Smile
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Sat, 07 June 2003 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, a 1UZ will fit, it's been done before. Just make sure you get a front-sump type engine and it will be all good.

Manual conversion is easy; it's really no harder than doing it in an old Celica (I've done both). You can use parts from RA6x Celicas (eg pedals, clutch hydraulics etc) so they're easy to get.
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icon14.gif  Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Sun, 08 June 2003 02:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Great! Just what I needed to hear! Very Happy
I'll continue sniffing around for more info if this has been done before. Do you know if it was an Aussie car?
Thanks again.
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Mon, 09 June 2003 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Check out this site.

http://members.optushome.com.au/activepete/twintur bo/jamiett.html

A TA22 with a manual 1UZ-FTE in it. Stats look Awesome!
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Mon, 09 June 2003 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh, forgot to mention I think the 1/2 cut you will be wanting is the crown mejesta. I was thinking about putting the 1UZ into my RA65, but the cost just put me off. will be doing the 1G thing instead.
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Mon, 09 June 2003 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Whattya want to know? Razz

Between me and a few people I know, most of the stuff has been sorted. If you want a manual conversion, there is the obvious solution of Dellows, but I'd be much more inclined to go with Carbontech, they do stuff for the 1UZFE including manual parts.

There is a guy in the Supra Club of NZ who has done the swap, and front what I gathered, the engine should bolt onto the mounts, kind of like the situation of a 1G in an RA40. Don't quote me on that, but he might be worth a chat.

There is some really cool stuff for the 1UZFE, and people are starting to recognise it for what it is. It would've been my ideal conversion into the XX, had the 1GGTE not made so much sense financially.

If you have any specific questions, don't hesitate to give me a buzz, I'll try to answer them, but if I can't I can hopefully put you onto someone that can. There is another dude in OZ who has done it, suprav8 on the forums has a MA61 with a 308 from memory, and he has a cousin(?) with a manual 1UZFE in his MA61.
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Tue, 10 June 2003 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If the g'box your gonna put in is a W58 (which you should in a MA61) then your better off getting the bellhousing from carbontech like frank said. Would be worth keeping the 1uz's auto gearbox if you want to keep costs down.

Theres a lot of people here that can help with questions, or another site is lextreme.


Really don't know about engine mounts bolting up, the mounts on the 1UZ are totally different to my 7M ones (different angles at least, the placings were almost the same though).

<edited to lessen confusion>
Try and get a CROWN front cut, as they're front sump, and have better designed headers (MA61 has wider bay than MA70 so should be able to handle these).
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Should be a good swap, and should go pretty damn hard!

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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Tue, 10 June 2003 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mk2 bay is heaps wider than a Mk3 bay because it doesn't have double wishbone. He's going to need a front sump because the cross-member in the Mk2 curves the opposite way to the Soarer.
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Tue, 10 June 2003 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh, sorry I misread Norbie's post. Front sump. ok. Crown is it then, and also crown has nicer headers (don't hug the block, have a slightly better design).
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Tue, 10 June 2003 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That TA22 with 1UZFTE cemented my resolve to do an RA28. But alas I can't find a 28 with nice enough panel and paint and so am going with the MA61 Supra I found. I think the plods will prefer the Supra over Celica as the platform for legality too Cool
Am contacting Carbontech for the adapter/bellhousing/clutch solution - cheers for that.
Can anyone with a 1UZ recommend an aftermarket ECU to use?
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Tue, 10 June 2003 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
There has been a fair bit of discussion on aftermarket computers both here (toymods) and on lextreme http://www.lextreme.com/forum/

I can definately help with this, but not on this thread (its been said a LOT of times).

Be prepared to pay a fair bit of $$$ if you want to get aftermarket computer on a 1UZ. Even if you can tune it yourself etc. etc. (Mine cost me $3,500+ for installation/tuning)
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Wed, 11 June 2003 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, jelly's are easy enough to polish being all flat and all. A lot of metal to polish though!

Shane: Heh, looks like fun, those things will come out really nice esp around the spokes. Have fun polishing them though, esp in the inside corners of spokes... Smile

What is everyone using?

I'm using 400, 1200, brasso with the powerdrill, cotton wadding and brasso again by hand. I've heard Autosol is really good, but I've got like a litre of brasso so...
HKSPete wrote on Tue, 10 June 2003 10:25


Try and get a CROWN front cut, as they're front sump
</edited>


There are two different model Crowns that pop up.
The most common one that you'll see 90% of the time is the C
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Wed, 11 June 2003 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what the f**k is up with this forum...it lags BAD and i just posted a heap of crap that i didn't write...this is a test re-run...

HKSPete wrote on Tue, 10 June 2003 10:25


Try and get a CROWN front cut, as they're front sump,



pretty much what i said was there are two types of Crown, the common one is the Crown Royal Saloon which is NOT front-sump, it is a mid-sump. Trust me, i have one outside that I just pulled out of a half-cut.

the front-sumps do come in the uncommon Crown, the Crown Majesta (Majestic? can't remember which one) and they also come in Celsiors (LS400).

KDog posted the proper sump configs about 1-2 months ago.
These are CORRECT...and probly the ONLY correct ones on the Net! Mad Very Happy

Do a search and you'll find it.

lets hope this msg posts properly.
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Re: MA61 1UZ v8 conversion Wed, 11 June 2003 08:17 Go to previous message
Crown Majesta is front sump, whilst the plain old Crown (Royal Saloon) is a mid sump.
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