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3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Tue, 10 June 2003 08:42
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guys,
have done a heap of searching and still cannot see through all the crap that is thrown around regarding what flywheel and clutch to use when converting a 3sgte to rear wheel drive....
i already have a supra box and 2sbellhousing but need to know wot goes in it
help please
cheers
gabe
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Wed, 11 June 2003 05:11
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so i can either
1. get a custom flywheel made
2. use 3sgte clutch, flywheel and get 5mm machined off the bellhousing
3. use 2s flywheel and go spare redrilling holes....
obviously the custom flywheel route is the better option but if i can get it done cheaper then ill do that.
is the 3sgte flywheel/machining option the next best thing? and are there any other problems with this option??
cheers all.....
oh and ive heard of people using 3sge (st162) flywheel.....will this work??
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Wed, 11 June 2003 06:17
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What gen 3SGRE do you have. The 162 flywheel as per all the n/a flywheels only has a six bolt crank.
I had a flywheel made up but only to the same dimensions as a stock Gen II 3SGTE one (but in alloy). All you need to do then is have an extension for the bearing carrier made to get the clutch fork travel sorted. My setup appears to work fine. i didn't need to machine anything off the bellhousing and the input shaft meets the spigot bearing OK (approx 5mm insert) ideally you would still machine the bellhousing to get a deeper fit but seeing the GT4 has no spigot bearing at all i don't see that as a major issue. It's only harmonic you are worried about so it doesn't need much support.
email me direct if you have any more questions
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Wed, 11 June 2003 07:11
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When fitting a 3S in RWD format, you will need to use a spigot bearing.
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Wed, 11 June 2003 10:14
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I've done it both ways with using a 2S flywheel and using the 3SGTE flywheel both way's work as good , Using the 2S flywheel all that needs to be done is to plug and redrill to the 8 bolt pattern and with the 3SGTE flywheel just get the bellhousing milled , Using the 2S flywheel you can use the 2S starter but using the 3SGTE flywheel a different starter needs to be used as the 3sgte flywheel has a larger diameter.
The flywheel off the later 3SFE also has the 8 bolt pattern and can be used.
The 2S and 3SFE flywheel can only be used on the first gen ( ST165 ) as the later motors have larger bolts and a slightly different bolt spacing.
Trevor
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Sat, 14 June 2003 03:54
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or you can buy 1 of my rwd 1s that cool 1 did also jamie from sydney did as well its so much easier and less hasle
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Sat, 14 June 2003 09:44
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gabe---------- Yes you could slot the holes a bit to move the starter out a bit , I did this myself when I was first doing the conversion using the 2S flywheel and all I had at the time was a 4age starter so I had to slot the holes in a bit for the starter to contact the flywheel and it worked fine but I later picked up a 2S starter and put that on , With the 3SGTE flywheel I used a different starter that bolted straight on but I don't know what the starter is off as I have a fair few starters laying around and have forgotten what their off , I made a turbo manifold to sit the turbo the right way and left the starter on the turbo side and have been running it like this for about three years an have had no trouble with the heat effecting the starter , If you look at some of the N/A cars with extractors you will find the starters are near touching the pipes and don't have trouble .
Trevor
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Mon, 16 June 2003 08:37
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i have a 3SGTE 4wd gearbox, drive shafts, clutch and flywheel for sale sounds alot easyer than all those missions if u ask me
make me a offer!
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Mon, 16 June 2003 13:47
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i need to go from w58 supra box to 3sgte so your bellhousing is unsuitable.... 
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Mon, 16 June 2003 13:49
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Glenns' bellhousing will do the trick.
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Mon, 16 June 2003 15:14
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can i just ask what is different from a 2s bellhousing and Glenns bellhousing??
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Mon, 16 June 2003 22:43
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Toby has organised custom flywheels that are made by the trd people in Melbourne. They are about the $660 mark. They allow the 2s bellhousing i think and do not need the release bearing lengthened. He is selling a heap of stuff at the moment so should be easy to find on the forum.
Brad
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Mon, 16 June 2003 23:21
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| gabe wrote on Tue, 17 June 2003 01:14 |
can i just ask what is different from a 2s bellhousing and Glenns bellhousing??
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A whole bunch of work 
He has the starter and clutch slave on the drivers side away from the turbo.
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Re: 3s-gte rwd clutch and flywheel
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Tue, 17 June 2003 05:33
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ALSO GUYS IF YOU NEED A FLY WHEEL MADE LET ME NO THEY ARE CHROM MOLY AND COST ME 475 PLUS A RING GEAR OF 35 PLUS SHIPPING TO WHO EVER WONTS 1 I DONT MAKE ANYTHING OUT OF THIS ONLY HELPING PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ,ALSO YOU CAN HAVE THEM AT 4.0 KILOS OF HEAVIER IF YOU WONT ITS UP TO YOU GUYS AND THEY ARE RWD TYPE NOT FWD .THE BELLHOUSING IS ANOTHER 1 BUT I ONLY GET THEM MADE WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME OR IF I HAVE ASPARE .AND THE GUY CHARGES ME AROUND 350 JUST TO MOVE THE STARTER AND CLUTCH TO THE OTHER SIDE PLUS THE COST OF FINDING A BELLHOUSING IN THE 1ST PLACE ,TOBY HAS 1 FOR 300 SO IF YOU BOUGHT HIS AS AN EXAMPLE IT WOULD COST YOU 650 PLUS POSTAGE
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