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 Sprinter owners defence
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Fri, 13 June 2003 05:18
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I'd like to create a new thread about how pissed I am at the judgemental, arrogant, hypocritical, elitist crap being said about sprinter owners. First up the whole idea of owning your own car is to use it to do what you want it to do. For some people that's circuit racing or drag or drift racing. For others they just use it as a daily commuter to get from a-b and leave it as it is. Others still use it to make their trips from a-b more enjoyable via a nice interior and stereo and to make it look what in their opinion is cool, eg big wheels, stickers etc. Now what right do you have to say that because you like circuit racing that someone with a big stereo and mags is not using their car properly?. If you don't race or drift their is no point in having the fastest car as your licence will quickly be taken away, not to mention the danger to yourself and others. So what if people like the ae86 because they saw the initial D cartoon and wanted the same thing, why isn't that reason for owning one as valid as your own? who is the great judge of what is acceptable car ownership and what isn't?. The so called ricers get just as much enjoyment crusing round with their doof doof that you do racing around in your circuit. As far as drifting not being a legitimate sport, if you wanted a race car you should have bought a r34gtr or supra turbo, the ae86 isn't famous for clocking the fastest laps. My bottom line is don't alienate car enthusiasts particularly sprinter enthusiasts because they don't have the same opinion about modifying cars as you. Cheers, Liam.
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Fri, 13 June 2003 05:45
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Seems Initial D has caused more problems than its worth..
I brought a Sprinter about 4 years ago before I'd even heard of the cartoon. Brought it because it was RWD, styling appealed to me and was fun to drive.
A mate is in Japan at the moment and sent me a CD with the initial D catroons so at least now I know what its all about but yeah, not every sprinter owner is buying because of that reason.
Other day I was asking about getting a dint repaired in one of my Sprinters and someone made the inteligent remark "dorifto' or something, insinuating that the accident was a result of drifting.. Maybe it was, no idea as I brought it with the dint but still..
Anyhow, rant over haha.. Just thought I should mention that as normally don't mind coping a bit of slack about owning one, but lately it seems every thread that mentions AE86 or Sprinter, the person gets bagged for it.
Cheers
Joel
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Fri, 13 June 2003 09:30
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Congratulations on your first post.
Enjoy your stay.. I'm sure lots of people here will welcome your point of view.  
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Fri, 13 June 2003 09:39
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Nice strong opening post there - world would be a little nicer if everyone respected everyone else, but 5000 years has taught us that people will be dumb no matter what...
that's what I reckon
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Fri, 13 June 2003 11:37
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Thanks guys, I'm just a little pissed at reading the same crap over and over. I own a sprinter myself and don't make the most money in the world so the mods I choose to make are about me enjoying my time in the car as my jobs require alot of driving. It's still a 4a-c and I'm saving for a 4a-ge, more out of reliability then speed. Maybe once I start making big bucks I'll strip and 4a-gze it and enter targa tasmania whilst daily driving an s15...mmm dreams. For now all I've chosen to do with it is cosmetic or stereo, and I'm proud of and enjoy my mods and I don't give a crap if others don't believe I'm worthy of an ae86. I'm an opinionated bastard  Cheers, Liam.
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Fri, 13 June 2003 13:19
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Would you like a tissue now??
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Melbourne
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November 2002
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 03:19
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fantastic....
the sprinter isn't necesserily a rice mobile yet.. plus there aren't that many around...
so you don't have to too stressed out..
rock on.
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 11:28
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Other day I was asking about getting a dint repaired in one of my Sprinters and someone made the inteligent remark "dorifto' or something, insinuating that the accident was a result of drifting.. Maybe it was, no idea as I brought it with the dint but still..
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you should havd quipped back saying " yeah - i jumped over a Mr2 while on a hairpin bend - and my wheel didnt catch the lip of the road like it should.
Still there are fools out there that think that this is all Sprinters are good for - hence why its so hard to find a decent one these days.
I dont mind a Replica of the " inital d " car - good on you i say - id LOVE to paint my Gt4 up in the castrol rallycar battlepaint and go for a drive to see how many looks it gets - But if the owner of the car - thinks they ARE the animated character from the cartoon - well - sadly - it just proves that a wanker is behind the wheel 
Lets hope theres more responsible owners of sprinters out there like many of the guys on this list that appreciate them for the fun car they are to drive ! Its sad to see another Drifter wannabe kill off a limited edition run vehicle.
( comparable to say a kid buying a Gt falcon / monaro and putting it into a tree while trying to be a bathurst legend thinking they are Skaifey )
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June 2003
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 11:39
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As I said in my original post, using public streets as a race track or thinking you can drift on public streets is really irresponsible and dangerous. A wanker is a wanker no matter what car they drive, any good car is going to attract the wrong sort who do dangerous things in public. I've got nothing but support and respect for anyone who gets out on a track and gives drifting a go, you're bound to look like an idiot the first time round, but the ae86 is the best car to learn with. Cheers, Liam.
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May 2002
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 12:02
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| cytribe wrote on Fri, 13 June 2003 15:18 |
drift racing
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| cytribe wrote on Fri, 13 June 2003 15:18 |
drift
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| cytribe wrote on Fri, 13 June 2003 15:18 |
drifting
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honestly, does anyone ACTUALLY do any drifting around here anway. jesus, talk about a buzz word.
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 12:23
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whoa whoa whoa...
who said ae86 is rice?
ricers are just jerks who think that their close to stock cars are actually race prep'ed, hard tuned circuit burners and they drive in that manner on public roads.
seriously man, nice cars are nice as long as they're not cheesy
nowadays rice is just as an over used term as drifting.
each man has his own path to happiness
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 13:04
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rice
// noun 1. the starchy seeds or grain of a species of grass, Oryza sativa, cultivated in warm climates and constituting an important food. 2. colloquial. a derogatory term used to describe someone driving a poorly modified car, being of a cosmetic nature, but in many cases designed to give the appearence of a performance enhancing modification, may be regarded as in poor taste, an eyesore.
rice boy
// noun 1. a person who has made modifications to their car of a ricy nature. this person will commonly but not nessecaritly believe such modifications both improve the look of their ride and its performance. eg. cut springs, headlight eyelets.
drift
// noun 1. a driving movement or force; impulse; impetus; pressure. 2. Middle English drift act of driving, defined primarily by the act of breaking traction to all 4 wheels before enterting a corner, maintaining the loss of traction throughout the corner to the exit point, in a controlled nature, can also be performed by breaking and maintaining loss of traction to the rear wheels only, but again must be controlled from before or at the entry point through to the exit of a curve.
[Updated on: Sat, 14 June 2003 13:05]
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 13:37
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| cytribe wrote on Sat, 14 June 2003 21:39 |
, but the ae86 is the best car to learn with. Cheers, Liam.
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I totally disagree with you there my friend!!
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 14:13
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I'd have to disagree with you also. I'd say it'd be a very hard car to learn to drift in.
The AE86 has nimble handling for sure, but it IS a 20yo chassis, they ain't the stiffest of the bunch, and they don't have anywhere near the power to hold an easy drift. Even a Jap-spec with a 4AGE and LSD really would need to be driven to hold a drift.
A much better "learner" drift car would be an S13 Silvia. Turbo torque for getting the wheels spinning, better suspension and viscous LSD...but thats just me.
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November 2002
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 14:41
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or better yet, a turbo rx7 series 5...
heaps of torque from a rotary turbo...
lsd...
rwd configuration..
stiff as sports suspension, not to mention durable...
sports heritage.. and beautiful 50.50 weight shifting.. more so superior to the s13, and ae86...
only problem is that it costs heaps.. and that's the reason why they don't use em often in circuits...
rock on.
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 14:46
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Anything getting that age is going to require new suspension to perform well. Guarantee that the S13 has more stuff easily and cheaply available. S4/5 RX7's also weigh more than a Silvia.
Silvia's also have the tendency to produce loads of negative camber on the back tyres when lowered, making it easier to break traction.
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sat, 14 June 2003 14:49
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FC rx-7s fairly bloody hard to drift actually
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May 2002
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sun, 15 June 2003 02:21
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Actually i do have a fair go at driftin once in a while. And it's drifting, not vl power slides after corner.
But we usually just do it in the wet tho since it's less wear on tyres
Also my friend came 2nd in the JMS Adelaide drift comp. He didn't have his car coz it was off the road, so he used a friend's stock 180sx that he's never driven b4. And note that the cars that came 1st and 3rd were a silvia and an r31 gts that were purely modified for drifting which came on trailers.
You can actually pull off some decent drifts with a 4ac sprinter and a 4age one easy in the wet
But of course it really sucks with not being able to hold the drift longer without LSD. Plus I think i suck! 
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sun, 15 June 2003 04:15
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I haven't ever gone "drifting" before, but I have drifted arounda few corners... one or twice by accident in peak hour traffic.
you geat fantastic looks from people as you slide past in a direction the car isn't pointing
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sun, 15 June 2003 04:37
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FWIW I've owned my Sprinter for about thirteen years, and I don't think I've ever tried to drift it.
Maybe a little at car club off-road events, but that's all.
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sun, 15 June 2003 04:46
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Try selling your sprinter... the amount of people asking me if ive drifted it is astounding. Maybe i should advertise it in the trading post as an Intial D car? 
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sun, 15 June 2003 05:06
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I haven't had a lisence for 13 years, so I'll use youth as an excuse
mind you the drift was in my old RA65, which was very surefooted and difficult to lose control of
doing similar things in the supra would scare me to death
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sun, 15 June 2003 05:26
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Wasn't it more out of control sidewaysness when you first got an MA61?
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Sun, 15 June 2003 05:28
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that was different.. that wasn't drift
that was more "drift, slide, overcorrect, spin, mount kerb, tear fence out of ground" 
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Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: Sprinter owners defence
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Thu, 27 November 2003 02:16
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I bought my 4A-C AE-86 because it was a RWD Corolla that accepted 4A- series engines quite readily. If you want to keep it stock, thats cool. As to drift, when I bought it it had dodgy 175/75R13 tyres on it. I was headed down to the wreckers to get some better rubber, the road was wet and I got perfect drift without any effort of my own. Good Shocks and springs will help a lot. Fit good 205/45R16s like I have, uprate the swaybars with Whitelines and tinker with swaybar adjustment till the thing works and you'll have good, relativly safe drift. By safe I mean predictable. If you know how your cars going to react sideways and know how to respond to pull it out of the situation your going to be a hell of a lot better of than 80% of the rest of the population that are scared of their cars. More than anything else, be a safe and responsible driver. If you want to learn a little about drifting in a low powered car, I recomend you locate a wide, quiet gravel road to practice on. Its a great feeling.
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