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gtman
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icon10.gif  Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 05:13 Go to next message
After looking at it in the paper for three weeks I finally went out and fell in love with an immaculate RA23. The lady who owns it didn't really want to sell it as she loves it as well, and if it was at her place said she wouldn't, its currently at her folks.

Took some pics here
http://www.xdesign.com.au/stuff/celica1.jpg
http://www.xdesign.com.au/stuff/celica2.jpg
http://www.xdesign.com.au/stuff/celica3.jpg

Questions are, its been sitting up on blocks for four years, so other then the obvious fluid changes etc, what will I need to do/check so it can get reg'd.

The other question is, my current RA23 is a manual, and I want to convert this new one as its currently an auto, so what will I need to look at changing. From what I've read it doesn't look like a mammoth job, but some expert opinions would be gladly appreciated.

Its not a desperate hurry, as I won't be picking it up until I've paid it off Smile But I made sure I put a deposit on it so she won't sell it to anyone else Wink
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Holy crap dude
That looks so straight.
*As you said do all the fluids including brake because it would have sucked up water in that time.
*Battery will probably be stuffed so will need another one.
*If the hand brake has been on all that time the drums may be warped so the brakes will pulse.
*Check the plugs etc.
*The fuel will probably be dead but you might be lucky.
*Once you get it going you may find a few leaks because the gaskets will have dried out and it als looks like it has a few leaks already by the puddles on the ground.
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
for the manual conversion... you will need the following:
- W50 box
- Manual pedal box
- clutch master and slave cylinder (buy new)
- clutch hydraulic lines
- a clutch + pressure plate

that should be aboot it Smile

good work on the car mate - she is worth a mint Nod
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
does it come with wheels ?! hehe

Brendon
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you'll also have to disable the nuetral/park start switch wiring so it's starts regardless of whether you remembered to leave it out-of-gear or clutch-in.

also, you might want to get the radiator re-cored (or just flushed if you're brave) as all the gunk in the water will have settled and clogged up the core. While you're there - get the radiator repair dude to remove the trans-cooler stuff from the bottom header tank.

it's a straight looking car - what a find!

there's used to be an old lady near me who drove around at slow speed in a well looiked after blue mid 70's celica that looked 100% factory - i suppose it got sold at a some deceased estate auction ... ;(

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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thechuckster wrote on Sun, 22 June 2003 20:46


there's used to be an old lady near me who drove around at slow speed in a well looiked after blue mid 70's celica that looked 100% factory - i suppose it got sold at a some deceased estate auction ... ;(

...


was the car at ipswich by any chance and a blue ra23 coupe? cause its mine now muahahahaha


oh and nice car man very jelious

Daniel

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gtman
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icon10.gif  Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Snyper wrote on Sun, 22 June 2003 17:17

does it come with wheels ?! hehe

Brendon

If I had a dollar for every time someone said that to me after seeing those pics Wink Yeah, you can see them sitting under the car. Original wheels as well Cool
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Sun, 22 June 2003 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jason: you might want to check that some of the important hoses havn't gone brittle (e.g. top/bottom radiator hoses, fuel-in, heater).

also, its likely that the heater core under that dash is mildly clogged up - and the temp-control tap - fortunately under the bonnet - will probably leak upon use. You can adapt landcruiser heater taps for celica use - requires a new mounting hole and re-routing of one hose.

thechuckster wrote on Sun, 22 June 2003 20:46


there's used to be an old lady near me who drove around at slow speed in a well looiked after blue mid 70's celica that looked 100% factory - i suppose it got sold at a some deceased estate auction ... ;(
...


munki wrote on Sun, 22 June 2003 22:30


was the car at ipswich by any chance and a blue ra23 coupe? cause its mine now muahahahaha
oh and nice car man very jelious
Daniel



The car was in Kenmore (which is nearly ipswich) - i haven't seen a while now (it's home still looks maintained, but i never see lights or the car) - tho i haven't been looking for it (my RA40 keeps me kinda busy). It was a blue RA23, coupe, factory rims, intact chrome, bonnet vent-inserts intact...

looked a like a genuine "owned by old lady, driven once-a-month on sundays, one owner, original paint, ..."

thechuckster.
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Tue, 24 June 2003 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for the response. I was talking to my brother on the whole auto->manual conversion, and he said I would need to replace the radiator as the way auto's and manuals do their cooling systems are different. Is this true, as I haven't seen anyone else say this in conversion topics
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Tue, 24 June 2003 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Very smick car.

Been restored cause it doesn't have the original side strips along the side??
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Tue, 24 June 2003 03:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The radiator in an auto car will have a built-in transmission cooler in the bottom tank. Simply disconnect this when you convert to manual; there's no need to swap the radiator.
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Tue, 24 June 2003 04:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks Norbie. I will probably swap anyway as I will be putting the auto box into my current celica.

Yeah, the last owner removed the strip when it was resprayed 10 years ago, not a bad 10yr old paint job Wink, which doesn't bother me as I prefer them without personally.
[ edit ] tho it hasn't been restored, past a new paint job and small rust removal 10yrs ago, its just been kept in really good nick

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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Mon, 07 July 2003 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Does anyone know of any indepth article on auto->manual conversion for simliar models? Hopefully one with some pics? I did a bit of a look but couldn't find anything.

Only 12 days till I pick it up, yay Very Happy
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Re: Just got another RA23, help needed for engine restarting and transmission swap Tue, 08 July 2003 10:40 Go to previous message
Hmm just been trough the process of getting my 23 reg, buy the way nice looking 23. Probs i found were hoses fuel, brake needed replacement, they become brittle, Uni joints get play in them, check your engine and gearbox mounts to see if the rubber has come away from the metal, lower ball joints may have developed movement, and check your rear cylnders for leakage. As for the auto to manual conversion, every thing you need looks has to been previously listed, but one thing to remember is that the auto box shifter opening in the floor sits about 1-2 inches further back that the manual and for the shitfer to bolt in you will need to open the hole up further foward. Dont frett, this can be done when the box is in, so you dont take to much out. Good Luck.
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