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Chroming & Polishing
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Sun, 30 June 2002 09:19
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Hi everyone,Im trying to jazz up my new motor so it will look the part.Can someone tell me can you chrome your rocket cover,throttle body and intake or can you only just polish them?If so who should I go to for a good job?Is anodising an option also?
Thanks people
Anhar Khamas
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Sun, 30 June 2002 09:31
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Mate, you can chrome just about anything these days! So long as it does'nt get too hot!
But i would'nt know where to go..
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Sun, 30 June 2002 10:13
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dude even alloy can be given a chrome finish if you polish it for long enough
by the way the people who do chroming are powder coaters  ....i work with a few
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Sun, 30 June 2002 11:05
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Ceramic heat coating?
Looks pretty and you get to substantially drop underbonnet temp?
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Sun, 30 June 2002 12:02
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Thanks for the advise guys.How would chrome plating hold up against the heat which is alot on a 3SGTE?
My intercooler pipes are currently ceramic coated in that "chrome" finish which is dull and now Im having doubts about its heat properties.No change in air intake temps before and after the coating was applied.
Anhar Khamas
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Mon, 01 July 2002 00:45
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If your in south Sydney area I would recommend Enware Chrome Factory. Speak to the manager Phillip Rozario. They located at 64-66 Woodfield Blvd Caringbah NSW 2229 Phone (02)95291933 I have also heard that HPC Coatings do a fantastic job with manifolds and extractors. I think they are located in Brisbane but do work Australia wide. Remember to stip everything down first and get them to list the parts on the invoice. I expect a high standard of work and the boys at Enware came through with the goods and did it at a good price. If your ever in Tassy I'd recommend TAS Plating and Chrome, located in Launceston. These guys also know their shit and have done a lot of good work for me over the years. Do you homework and don't let them stuff you around. I have found Sydney the hardest state to find good car contacts. I dunno why but this state seems to have its fair share of rip of scum bags and love to rip you off.
I'm just hoping Brisbane will be a little easier to find good workmanship at the right price.
Justin
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Mon, 01 July 2002 07:48
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Puffy i'm after a chrome plater as well. I'm keen to do my cam covers but not all platers can do them if they are alluminium. I'm also keen to do my inlet plenum.
I have ceramic coated intercooler pipes and also doubt the temperature benefits of the coatings. I have an intake temp sensor in the inlet pipe and the temps haven't dropped after the coating was applied. I have checked it at all temperatures and loads and appears to be the same.
Maybe it some data accusition problems, i got it done at Competition Coatings at Guilford in sydney. It does look good too.
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Mon, 01 July 2002 09:16
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If you want a chrome finish, why dont you just get the rocker cover and pipes hpc coated, cost a bit, looks the part though and has the added benifit of heat protection
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Tue, 02 July 2002 08:28
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Hey Puffy go to Allbright on Badgally Road after 4 o'clock or get his number out of thephone book he is cheap and does a good job
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Tue, 02 July 2002 09:42
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Fattony the chrome hpc coating doesn't really turn out chrome looking, its quite dull and as it says above both of us are dubious about the temp benefits.
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Tue, 02 July 2002 09:44
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Ceramic coating is more suited to higher temp applications like exhaust manifolds and extractors. Inlet pipes don't generally get very hot at all.
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Wed, 03 July 2002 03:16
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Thanks again everyone......Jake does this guy at Allbright is he a chromer or polisher?I might give him a call.
Sean,you could be right as inlet temps are not that hot but my friend has a downpipe in HPC and the exh temps were the same when under the same conditions.These did reduce though when thermo tape was applied.Im just starting to get a bit sceptical about this product....Still not decided if it does or does not work.
Anhar Khamas
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Wed, 03 July 2002 08:05
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He is a polisher he did a sweet job on my cam covers but he should no where or of some one. I think there is a place in Ingleburn that does chroming i am not to sure but the name is something like forstar
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Wed, 03 July 2002 09:28
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Hey Jake, how much did it cost to get them polished?
Are they off a 4 cylinder?
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Wed, 03 July 2002 15:11
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Hey puffy, was that inlet temps or exhaust temps that were reduced, and if it was exhaust, where was the temp measured from?
The exhaust temp downstream of the turbo should be hotter as less heat is being transmitted throught the downpipe, and the gass moves faster, 'cos hotter exhaust gas = higher gas velocity....
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Thu, 04 July 2002 04:28
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Hi Joel,he has a sard exhaust temp sensor and it is mounted at the end of the downpipe about 3inches from the join to the rest of the exhaust.Same sensor and positioning was used and even though this experiment wasnt done under strick lab conditions we tried to keep the environment as close as possible.
I totally agree with you on the subject of heat and velocity and can cause great variation.We got about a 6deg drop in temps when thermo wrap was used.Mind you this was placed on top of the HPC downpipe.Still it probably works as its used in lots of race applications but I think as a personal choice I will go with thermo wrap from now on.
Anhar Khamas
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Sat, 06 July 2002 00:52
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Hey SUPRAGTE i got the 4agze covers polished they had paint and crap all over them and he only charged me $25 each i dont know weather this is cheap cheap but i thought it was a resonable price and the more you get done the cheaper he makes it
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Wed, 10 July 2002 10:15
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Thanks jake, that does sound very cheap!
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Wed, 10 July 2002 12:41
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| Puffy wrote on Thu, 04 July 2002 2:28 PM |
I totally agree with you on the subject of heat and velocity and can cause great variation.We got about a 6deg drop in temps when thermo wrap was used.Mind you this was placed on top of the HPC downpipe.Still it probably works as its used in lots of race applications but I think as a personal choice I will go with thermo wrap from now on.
Anhar Khamas
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If thermo wrap = header wrap, I'd advise against wrapping your headers in it. I have heard from a few people that they have cracked/damaged headers from wrapping them. It doesn't let the heat out into the engine bay, but it does supercook your headers. Much better to get them coated I think. You can get the inside and/or outside coated.
I guess having the inside done would stop the header getting as hot in the 1st place.
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Thu, 11 July 2002 04:45
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Hey puffy, i dunno where you live but you can give ELECTROPLATING TECHNOLOGY in Thurraliliy street in Queanbeyan a call on (02) 6297 0535.
I have never dealt with them, however i picked up their card on a GT Falcon they had done at a motor show here. The whole engine bay was done, and it looked like a really proffesional job. I'm not sure how long ago they had done it, but none of the chrome was chipping off like some of the dodgier ones. But that guy that jake suggests sounds pretty good.
André
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Thu, 11 July 2002 07:34
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polishing alloy is fairly sucky as its a pain in the ass to keep polished, and expect to pay $ to chrome alloy as to get it done right, apparently thay have to plate it a few other metals first otherwise the chrome flakes off.
Allan
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Thu, 11 July 2002 07:47
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| Stefan wrote on Wed, 10 July 2002 10:41 PM |
If thermo wrap = header wrap, I'd advise against wrapping your headers in it. I have heard from a few people that they have cracked/damaged headers from wrapping them. It doesn't let the heat out into the engine bay, but it does supercook your headers. Much better to get them coated I think. You can get the inside and/or outside coated.
I guess having the inside done would stop the header getting as hot in the 1st place.
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did thay paint the headers first?
Allan
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Thu, 11 July 2002 09:16
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Puffy,
The thermo wrap does work well from what i've been told but i also heard that it causes corrosion.
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Re: Chroming & Polishing
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Thu, 11 July 2002 09:35
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You will find that coatings will barely (if at all) reduce teps read from your sensors. They are designed to keep radiated heat down. If you put a thermometer say 2in from your manifold before and after coating you would notice the difference. My mate has just turboed his CRX and the exhaust manifold is HPC coated. You can put your hand mm's from the surface and although you can feel the heat it wont burn you like a cast manifold or an uncoated one will, however the split second you touch it it will rip your skin off 
It is designed to keep the heat in and reduce your underbonnet airfilter and pipe work is located it may help a little howeverdue to the surrounding air being cooler. By keping more heat in manifolds it can help the turbo to spool up slightly quicker as less heat is lost to the surrounding air.
Jamie.
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