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dylusion
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icon5.gif  Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 03:51 Go to next message
Along with other things at the moment i am looking for a new power plant for the celica. I was just browsing the trading post and came across this 13b.

Mazda 13B Bridgeport, complete motor with 48mm weber, Gilmer drive and holly blue pump, see running, $1700, plus some RX4 parts from $5 CASTLE HILL 0403-50 3818

Now i am not an rotary buff, this is why i am asking. But for the engine and bits listed with it... 1700 sounds cheap to me.. or am i just being paranoid and it is a normal price?
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Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rotary engine are pretty cheap
that's why a lot of people who blow the seals (which is pretty common) tend to just swap in another engine.
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icon4.gif  Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Is it legal? I thought it wasn't...

I wouldn't suggest getting a bridge port if you don't know anything about rotors... They're high maintanence with the apex seals going every 15,000km (from memory).
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Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
judging by your avatar pic, you got a ta22 in nsw.
I'm almost certain it's not legal to put a 13b-t in a ta22 in nsw.

edit: as max said

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Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im not sure about ta22 but i know redline rotary was doing one for an ra28, but they are about 100kg heavier and originally had the 1.8L. u may be able to but may have to do some reinforcing which can be costworthy.your best bet would be to give an engineer a buzz, i think some may even specialise in rotary engines...
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Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rotaries can be just as reliableas piston engines, IF you treat them with the care they need and build them correctly...

a mate had one in an RX3 for 4 years, pulling over 400hp atw for all four years... he didnt end up popping a seal, but took it apart to see wear and tear.. now he still has the same housings and plates as before, but replaced seals.... goes to show they can last if you treat them right...


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Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nark/Draven: i have sussed it out befdore.. it is all legal if it is NA... but a 13b with a turbo is not legal..

Yeah i do have a TA22.. in nsw, they are my number plates. Smile

I am prety open as to the form of the engine.. but most prob a standard 13b is preferable. If i dont go down the rotary path i will be looking for a suitable 4 cyl either with forced induction or a testbed for a conversion. I was thinking a 3TGTEU but i believe they are getting on now so i was also thinking 3S.

as i said opinions are appreciated.. thanks guys.

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Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
3s is a bit expensive for rwd applications

13b bridge/peripheral port would be an option., but they tend to become fuel pigs (mate had an rx3 witha 13b peripheral port.. ended up selling it due to the fuel bills
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Re: Opinions please. Mon, 07 July 2003 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ohh yeah... indeed.. they are quite the quzzlers. hehe. If i do go down the rotary road you get bet your bottom dollar it will not be a daily driver. shit.. hate to think how much it owuld cost to fuel it for dail driving.. Confused
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Re: Opinions please. Thu, 10 July 2003 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How come no one saying 1G ?

Won't they'd fit ??
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Re: Opinions please. Thu, 10 July 2003 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1G is always an option but I think he was considering something different which is always a good thing Smile
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Re: Opinions please. Thu, 10 July 2003 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
far out man.... at the end of the day... I say... do the conversion that is:

easiest
cheapest
fastest
(in that order) Cool

and a 1g in a Celica is not something you see on the road everyday !!!!)
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Re: Opinions please. Fri, 11 July 2003 03:22 Go to previous message
I think a 1G in a Ta22 is quite a task as they are a bit shorter in the nose than the later celica's. The 3T would be a great option for a 22. They are pretty cheap and you can get a fair bit of powet from them. Look at what they were getting on the last Dyno day, 100-200kw at the wheels. Thats heaps for a 22.
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