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R154 Short Shift Kit
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Tue, 02 July 2002 13:42
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I'd like to get quicker gear changes so I can trounce Skylines by 3 car lengths instead of just 2  On the track of course!
Back to the topic - short shifters for the R154. Who has one? What's it like? Did you make it yourself? If off the shelf, what brand, cost?
I've seen the TRD kit but at $700, I'd rather try alternatives.
I was thinking of having a 1 inch spacer made up to fit under the top cover on the gearbox shifter and lengthening the shift linkage by about an inch. I've got a spare gasket as a template. Anyone had the top off the R154 and know if this will work? Who should I approach in Sydney to make up the spacer if I go ahead? Anyone else interested in a allow spacer if I have one made up?
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Peakhurst, Sydney
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Toymods Board Member
I supported Toymods
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Turramurra, Sydney.
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Tue, 02 July 2002 16:07
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Nah, you don't wanna do that! (except for the new bushes maybe)
What you had in mind is right, I did the same sort of thing. http://members.optushome.com.au/big.worm/quicksh.h tm
Not sure where you could go to get this done, but it's really not too hard to do. Someone with a millimg machine and a welder should find it pretty easy.
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 09:01
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Mark
As previously discussed, there is a difference between shortening the length of the stick and shortening the actual shift stroke - the MKIII mod is crap and only shortens the stick not the stroke - IMHO a bit ricey!
I'll keep my $700 and get a real short shift thanks.
How's the RAxx going?
Joel
Your link is where I got the idea from months back but could find when trying to refer to it. It's what I'm trying to achieve with the R154 stick. It's also what reputable short shift kits achieve.
Anyone out there done it to the R154?
Anyone know if the R154 stick is common and interchangeable with any other boxes?
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gold coast
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May 2002
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 10:42
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Manny, TRD1TONNER has one on his halfcut and HCCA has one too.
They are really simple. Billet alloy piviot point bolted on to the top of the remote and a modded stick. Not worth 700 IMHO.
Would be hard on the syncros. Very notchy shift and as you know the R154 is not the fastest shifting box due to its large size.
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 10:48
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Pete
That's what I was hoping to get around - the long, notchy, heavy shift.
I'd rather spend $700 on something that makes the car faster or safer, not on a shift kit. If the spacer does not work out, I'd just bring it back to normal, hence my question about wether the stock stick itself is common with any other box as a backout option.
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 11:14
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W58's have the same shifter so do w40/50's. Too easy. Most toyota boxes share the same shifter
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 11:53
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Brilliant info. Thanks Pete.
Anyone in Sydney with a spare shifter off maybe a broken box? Reasonable requests for money or beer entertained - can deal/trade at Dyno Day.
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Peakhurst, Sydney
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 12:01
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I think a 6 pack of Hahn Premium would do it 
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 12:17
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Is that for the 22RE or the stick off the W58 from the RAxx or both?
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 03 July 2002 12:24
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You can adapt a sequential shift kit, like in Zoom 52 p.68
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Adelaide, SA
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May 2002
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Thu, 04 July 2002 11:36
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It's interesting that the Ikeya sequential shifter in the Zoom article was brought in by Japanese Motorsports for George's 200SX. According to their front page he is their best customer, and if go to; http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au/partsinstock3 .htm
You can by the "slightly used" sequential shifter for a 200SX/Silvia S13/14 for only $1900! A lot of money for "no improvement in shift speed could be detected" type performance!
A shorter shift for the R154 would be desirable, but I've found that trying to shift too quickly (esp 2nd to 3rd) causes me to sometimes miss the gear. Now I could a crappy driver, or the box could be a bit hammered, or maybe some things (like that long, slow shift) you just can't change!
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Thu, 04 July 2002 12:00
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Mark
I'm bitching about a $700 option that will improve shift speed and you suggest a $2000 rice part that makes no improvement at all other than looks/brag rights. Nah - don't think so. 
Is the w58 stick available?
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Thu, 04 July 2002 12:01
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lumpy,
No, I agree with you totally here.. the R154 isn't the smoothest box in the world, and short shift, long shift, sequential shift, that aint going to change.. the only way you are going to improve the shift is to rebuild the gearbox carefully .. i've heard of having the gears "knife-edged" but I don't know where I saw that.. Oh, and R154 2nd to 3rd when driving agressively - yes it's the box.
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Thu, 04 July 2002 12:04
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Manny, chill dude.. I wasn't being serious 
If you ask me, the sequential shifter looks dodgy.. looks like the guy in zoom is driving a government bus 
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Peakhurst, Sydney
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Thu, 04 July 2002 12:07
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Oh, sorry Manny, the stick is going with the box for a manual conversion on a commodore.
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Connecticut, U.S.A.
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July 2002
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Fri, 05 July 2002 08:09
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Mark, (dude??WTF) - I'm chilled....either was I, just winding you up as usual.
MelloYello
Looks interesting but landed in Oz would be more than the $700 TRD unit.
When I find a place that can mill the template I've got for the spacer, I'll give it a go myself. Now just got get myself a spare stick.
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Fri, 05 July 2002 09:33
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sorry dude
MelloYello has the right Idea.. these things are so common in Japan, there must be dozens sitting on half-cuts around the place.
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Location:
Peakhurst, Sydney
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Sat, 06 July 2002 14:23
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Its simple.. you just buy the front cut, remove the shifter, and resell.. You would be surprised how many wreckers wouldn't know that the thing has a short shifter fitted.
I know it's a long shot, but might be worth a try, and might even be a profitable transaction if you could be bothered to part the front cut out.
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Forrestfield, WA
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August 2002
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Australia
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September 2002
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Melbourne
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March 2003
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 21 July 2004 08:58
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Well i have mine locally made!!!
Thanks Manny!!
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Re: R154 Short Shift Kit
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Wed, 21 July 2004 11:26
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The thread is only 2 years old.
Redline is certainly good for the R154.
This shifter was worth the wait! 
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