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The was an article in an old hot 4's about a ta22 with a 13b i beleive
it was on the cover
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theres a 12a turbo rotary in a ta22 in the trading post this week for $4000 under sports and performance, spose it is legal then again maybe its not so he is selling it
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For a car with an official kerb weight of less than 1100kg, you're allwed to have an engine capacity 3 times the car's weight. So if your car weighs 1000kg, you can have an engine up to 3 litres (naturally aspirated). I'm pretty sure the 13B is considered a 2.6 litre engine, so you should be right there.
I can recommend a good engineer in the Brisbane area who will set you straight on what can and can't be done. FWIW he approved a 1JZ-GTE in an RA23, so I can't see why an atmo 13B would be a problem! 
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It is 2.5 times the kerb weight. A TA22 weighs 940kg so thats 2.35 liters. You are right the 13B is considered 2.6l so that is why the turbo 13B isnt allowed.
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Thu, 16 May 2002 08:05
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13b internals in a 12a CAN'T be done.The rotors,housings and shaft are different!!13b housings have 13b cast in them as do 12a's,10a's,20b's,etc and gives the game away as soon as you open the bonnet.
Turboed rotas don't need to have big ports to get big hp,it's the same principal as a piston engine and a big cam (to much overlap)
As I keep telling people "as for a daily driver I find mine to be great,even on the M4 6 days a week" mine is a mild ported 13b in an ra23 for those that don't know
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Thu, 16 May 2002 09:51
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I can assure you that it can and has on many occasions been done.  Ring Rocco's Performance (02-96252716)for example they build them all the time to allow people to have 13B turbo's in cars engineered with 12A turbo's. It is a hybrid engine however all markings etc still make it appear as a 12A. I looked into a Rotary and many other engines for 2 years before putting the 3TGTEU into my car. I know that turbo rotary's dont need big ports but the fella wants a carbyed non turbo for a start. I merely stated that he would be better off with a 12A so if he later off wants more power he can make a 13B hybrid and it will still be legal. Its hardly worth it for him to go to the trouble of putting a rotary in if he later on wants more power and to keep it legal has to either replace his n/a 13B with a 12A turbo or change engines altogether.
If you still dont believe me about the hybrid engine i will gladly put money on it!!!! 
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Interesting thanks guys
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I have spoken to a few rotary workshops in NSW and most of the above information is correct. I can keep the project legal as long as I steer clear of the turbo idea. Now don’t get me wrong, I'd love a big series 6 13b turbo engine with Motec but I'm buying a house in October and some of you know what that’s like. I can’t afford to spend mega bucks all over again. I’ll only be using a mild port or 6 port to start with. If I build a bridge port straight off the bat, there’s no way I can shut the thing up to pass rego. The car is only driven a couple of times a year and to tell you the truth its only done 900km since June 1998. Its not a daily driver simply due to the fact I’m shit scared some prick will steal it or run into it. The two-pack paint job cost me heaps but PAINT makes the car in my books. The little photo does not do it justice! I’m putting together a web site for you guys soon so stay tuned.
If all goes to plan I should have some other sick modifications completed by the time I turn up in Brissy in early November 2002.
Drive it like a government car (shit I can relate to that one!) did you know defence vehicles come standard with a special RALLY PACK. It’s the same one you find on renter cars and work vehicles in general ha ha..........
Justin
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Thu, 16 May 2002 11:14
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putting money on the line is a big call,I drive one and have a bit of an idea what I'm on about as I put it in myself as well.take a look at this quote I found tonight
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Mazda production engines follow a fairly simple numbering system. The numbers roughly indicate rated displacement in liters times ten (13B = 1.308L, or 1308cc), though sometimes a bit optimistic (12A = 1146cc), and the letter indicates a significant design revision. The first Mazda rotary cars were powered by 10A engines, while subsequent rotaries were either 12As or 13Bs (of numerous varieties). Outside the US, Mazda even produced cars around the 3-rotor 20B, in twin turbo form. Virtually all Mazda rotaries, from the 10A to the 20B, share the same internal dimensions save chamber width. For 10As, the chamber width was 60mm, resulting in 982cc (0.982L) displacement. 12As had a 70mm wide chamber, giving them 1146cc. 13Bs and 20Bs both have 80mm wide chambers, producing 1308cc and 1962cc, respectively
Now tell me how you fit a rotor that is 80mm wide into a camber that is 70mm wide???? And then what do you do with the left over length of the shaft???
So how much money did you want to put on it???I quess you might be able to machine the rotor down but what a waste when you can but 12a rotors.
looks like your research was not as good as you thought and that you have been mislead some what and I'll be nice and you only owe me a can of drink
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Thu, 16 May 2002 11:27
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Justin,
I'm trying to make the cruise on sunday and you should to.I'll take you for a run then if we both make it,if not I'm happy to take you for a run at sometime.At the moment it needs new plugs and a good run as the daily traffic doesn't give it a chance to stretch it's legs.I don't claim it to be real quick as it is only a mildport and it is getting on a bit now but who gives a shit when it dies it will get rebuilt.just so you know the engine number is on the front housing and if you put that on your turboed motor after it is approved then what's to say that that engine wasn't in it to begin with,not that hard to do really
hope to make it sunday!!
by the way a 13b is classed 2.6litres
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Thu, 16 May 2002 12:30
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It is 2.5 times the kerb weight. A TA22 weighs 940kg so thats 2.35 liters. You are right the 13B is considered 2.6l so that is why the turbo 13B isnt allowed.
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The 2.5 times rule is for turbo/supercharged engines. The original poster asked about atmo engines, so the 3 times rule applies.
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this weeks sydney trading post has a 76 model celica with 13b series 4 motor with microtech & 9 inch for $13000
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Well guys, this post certainly created a little more interest than I first thought. I’m not sure I can make the cruise this Sunday but well see what happens. I don’t think you guys really want to see an old datto 280ZX do you? Thanks for all the advice don’t stress about the 12a and 13b thing. They all go bup bup bup bang eventually!
I rang the RTA yesterday and they said I could drive the unregisted Celica to Brisbane in October for around $50. Apparently you only need a pink slip, and another $25 charge to cover the permit and short-term green slip coverage. I think this will be cheaper than using a transportor, even at government expence. Just think how many times those arseholes in blue will pull me over between King Georges Road and bloody Brisbane. No plates must mean I’m a criminal………right! Should be an interesting journey, can’t wait.
I also rang Shannons yesterday (slow day in the office) and the bloke was a real prick. He told me I wouldn’t have a hope in hell of getting full comprehensive insurance on the TA22 for $15K. I told him its pretty sweet and I’ve spent a heap of coin but he said the market value is roughly $1500 so even if took the car to a Shannons authorized insurance accessor he or she would probably only value the car at $5000. What ever happened to an agreed value? The funny thing was, I asked hypothetically what if I could get the accessor to agree to $15K and he said $550 per year in Brisbane, which is fantastic. I’ll just have see what they have to say when I get to Brissy, due to the fact I can’t get insurance before I go, because it technically won't have any plates therefore its not technically registered in the eyes of the insurance company. Why did I let the bloody thing run out of Tassy rego in 2000? It only used to cost $450 a year with no green slip or pink slip required. Cheap compared to Sydney wouldn’t you say?
Justin
Anyone recommend a good trailer repair joint in South Sydney?
To much stress, I didn’t bother asking the Shannons bloke about the rotary idea I already heard enough BS for one day! Why do we even have insurance? Imagine paying for full comp, some pricks steals it and burns it and I get a cheque to cover wheels and suspension. Unbloody believable. I'm Allan Jones ha ha
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Fri, 17 May 2002 09:46
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| justinharwoodran wrote on Fri, 17 May 2002 10:35 AM |
Just think how many times those arseholes in blue will pull me over between King Georges Road and bloody Brisbane. No plates must mean I’m a criminal………right! Should be an interesting journey, can’t wait.
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i drove from campbelltown to melb no plates didnt get pulled over once! did take 2 years in the RTA office for a friggn sticker but eventualy after a few stat decs it was all sorted
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TOYROTA, you can shove your can of drink and spend 25c on a phone call to Rocco's and ask him. They have built more rotaries than you or i will ever lay eyes on and i have spent many hours there talking to Jim about the whole 12A 13B hybrid thing. So stop wasting your time looking at figures put out for a standard engine and make a call. Try Pac as well, ask for Phil there he will tell you too. Dont try and make me look stupid when you are too lazy to get off your ass and ring the number i gave you!!!!
I am not a Rotary expert but this topic i know i am 100% correct and until a few months ago i had a detailed written quote to build one of these very engines.
NORBIE, i know that it is times 3 for N/A engines. If you read my post i said that a 13B non turbo is legal in a TA22 (even though it is 2.6l in theory) Yet a 13B turbo is not due to the 2.5 times rule. I was talking about building the hybrid engine to get around the legality issues and be able to have a 13B turbo in a TA22.
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shove my can you say 
well everything printed on the net and in books tells the facts.
now you can say ring this bloke or that bloke but at the end of the day I could give you phone numbers of blokes to ring and they will tell you the FACTS as they have read them. I could get someone that will tell you what you want to hear if you are going to part with money and the whole rotary thing is something that most people don't know about so there is a lot of crap flying around.If it makes you happy I will make the call and find out but not to the people you know as you might gee them up to say what you want.give me a couple of days,and if I'm wrong than I'm wrong BUT if you are so shore of your self put your car on the line!!!I don't claim to know everything and I'm not cocky enough to bet on it but I've had a bit to do with them and I've read a shit load about them and I DRIVE ONE EVERYDAY.
Everyone can do the research and make their own decision and I was trying to make you look like an idoit most people can do that with out my help so it is up to you do you want me to make some calls it's your car on the line not mime
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As if i would put my car on the line over your stupid little bet! I have not and will not gee up anyone, i thought by giving you the names of 2 of the best rotary engine building companies in Sydney you would listen to me. You say that you read heaps of stuff on the net, how do you know that someone like you who doesnt know 3/4 of jackshit wrote it??? These guys build the engines for a living and have built big professional businesses by doing so. I dont care if you live in your car you are wrong in this case. Just because you own one doesnt automatically make you an expert. Look make the phonecall tomorrow to any rotary joint in the country (maztech,mazfix,promaz,rocco's,pac,dalton etc etc) surely i cant gee them all up. If i am wrong i will reimburse you your cost of the phonecall and give you a bottle of rum, if i am right i want a formal apology on the forums and you to admit that you are a know!!!!! You say i have to put my car on the line, what would you put up? your car? so go bat off about your rota and clean up your mess with the pages of crap you keep quoting. I have never said that the parts go together without machining you assumed it!! It is a hassle to do but it has to be done in order to have a 13B turbo in a car less than 1200kg.
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Lets not call each other names,there are rules here and I'm not that petty.as to buying the car as is well try again,I put it in there many years ago when there were only a couple around!!!
AS for books and things being wrong I think not,do you read manuals?? I think so.A bit of thought need there!!
As for being an expert because I own and drive one I don't recall ever saying that.
As for dickhead like me,I'll wait to hear sorry for that one as we haven't meet so how do you know what I am,do we know the same people??
Couldn't sell my car!!not that I have to justify myself to you but after spending some time talking to yogi and my other friend constantly telling me not to I changed my mind and took it off the market.
As for your wheels being worth more than my car,I use to sell wheels and if you payed that much for them then you were ripped off big time.
I don't need the cost of the calls back but thank you anyway and if I'm wrong I will be man enough to admitt it,the question is will you
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Look maybe i was a bit rude but i gave my opinion which is what the original post here wanted, i had an opinion because i once went down the very same road with my car. I dont need people like you trying to disprove everything i write. If you think you have an excellent knowledge about rotors (and you may well have)and you know how many wierd and wonderful things have been done with them over the years doesnt that make you think it can be done? how can you tell me i am wrong if you have no proof. I have given you the necessary numbers to call so that you too can learn something new, yet you have to start being a smartarse!!and saying i would have gee'd them up. You might act like a 12 year old ,i do not! Not everyone can know everything and if i get proved wrong i admit it and apologise accordingly,however if i think i am right i will make calls etc to prove or disprove my opinion.....can you do the same.
Earlier you tried to tell me you have read facts on shafts,rotors,etc are different, yet your "PROOF" says all dimensions are the same for all 3 varients with the exception of chamber width!!!!! Another reason people are building these hybrid engines with 13B internals because 12A parts are getting expensive and rare also. That is like saying i cant put 20thou oversized pistons into my engine, however if i machine the bores they will fit!!!!! exactly the same for the rotary's!!!
I should have stopped this earlier and i apologise to everyone else who views this post cause they shouldnt have to put up with this crap,espescially the originator of the post who asked for advice and all he has got is knit picking and bitching. I just dont want you to be misled by the resident rotor guru!!!, you deserve to know all your options before you start spending money.
TOYROTA i will have a letter faxed to me tomorrow and i will post it up to prove you wrong, then perhaps you will pull your head in next time instead of making yourself look like a dick! I will argue all day if i know i am right and in this case it wont be me eating my words. JUST MAKE THE CALL!!!!! and zip it!
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the people you speak to and the people I speak to are different!!as I said if I'm wrong than sorry to you to everyone.
When did I claim to be the rotary guru???Answer me that.Do you have any idea as to what I do or what I have done or anything about me at all??
This hybrid engine might be true but as for cost can Mr average afford it and if it is in the car and the RTA happen to do a capacity check then what happens??
When trying to help someone which you are trying to do and I'm not taking that from you why point him down a road that could cost a fortune??Why didn't you do this (just asking)
Finally I don't like the way you come across lets hope that it stop NOW
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MRTA22 and Toyrota,
Guys I have no problem with a Civil (even heated) descussion on what is and isn't possible. MRTA22 I do have a problem when things turn personal. I know we all get fired up in an arguement but please attack the arguement NOT THE PERSON ! Toyrota has challenged your argument without the personal insults please extend him the same respect.  I would appreciate it if you could go back thru your posts and tone them down.
Justin,
Whoever you spoke to ay Shannons was a tool !
My Celica was previously insured in QLD with Shannons for $12K. Shannons will also insure unregistered cars as I enquired about insurig mine during the rebuild. Call em back and speak to someone else.
As for your Rota conversion different states have Different rules. Tim Frost (aka the 4SFED Celica) is putting a 13B turbo in his TA22 but that is on the other side of Australia. If your moving to QLD you should check with the powers that be in QLD as to what they will allow.
Hope that helps,
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Toyman,
I agree, the bloke at Shannons was a real dickhead, he was probably on his way to lunch or heading out of the office. I have no doubt I could get the Shannons accessor to value my car at $15K. Like I said my Celica may not have 200kw, but the overall build quality and two pack paint can only be described as total perfection. I actually spoke to you in person at the 2001 Sydney Auto Saloon last year. My family was visiting from Tassy and we were totally amazed to see three TA22 all in a row in room full of late model cars. The rego on mine had just run out. Just think we could have had four in a row if only I had known. I’ll keep the rotary idea in mind and I’ll see what the local experts have to say in QLD at the end of they year.
Thanks guys for the help. As for that crap about the 12a and 13b thing, who cares I’m only thinking about a NA 13b with a Weber. Its as simply as that.
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ROD, mate i went back and removed some of the profanity and personell insults from my posts, hope it suffices!
TOYROTA, you have never said in words that you are the rotary guru, yet you seem to be determined that you know everything about them, espescially in this case!
I have never met you and i do not know anything about you (and the same goes the other way!!) so it was wrong for me to attack you personally, however by continually replying without ringing and asking someone about this engine, you are insulting me personally and my intelligence!
There are 2 main reasons i didnt go ahead with the rotary conversion in my car, number 1 is the cost! To have a very strong engine built with T04,aftermarket computer,larger pumps,exhaust,EFI conversion,etc etc was enormous! $12-13k thats before diff,brakes,paint,wheels,interior,etc.(the hybrid is only $1k or so more to have built which is affordable to most people,for what you get hp wise!) The car would have been extremely quick but als a real prick to drive(which is my second point!) I could not justify spending so much money and ending up with a car that wasnt usefull as a daily driver! My car has in the past and will again (when finished) be driven daily. I can not afford to spend so much money on my car to keep it parked in the garage and only drive it occasionally, and when it is driven is only suited to high rpm straight line stuff. I have not built it as a race car or a show car, it is a neat streeter!
Justin asked about peoples opinions on a rotary conversion, i can assure that in the future he (as we all do) will want more power. So i suggested that he put in a 12A turbo for now, so that it is engineered as a turbo then later if he does want more power he can do the whole hybrid thing and his car remains legal. It was just an opinion i gave. He has later revealed that he only wishes for a 13B carby and will keep it at that,so i say if that s what you want,go for it!!!
I had my previous Celica insured with Just cars for 15k with my engine in it. I had to post them photo's as an assesor wasnt available in my area at the time. I was 19 at the time and it cost me $2k a year. They didnt care what mods i did as long as i notified them of it. 3rd party property for the same car was $750 a year incl fire and theft but they only cover a maximum $4k no matter what the car.
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Justin,
Now that you mention it I do remember talking with you. That was a while back now ! Anyway good luck with whatever you decide and let us all know .
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Well after making a few calls I can't wait to see what your next post is sould be entertaining
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I love it guys.
After spending the past four years in the navy I love a good heated discussion, especially when your at sea and you can't make phone calls to settle simple disputes. Thanks for the laughs, it was great. Standby while I sort that webpage out for you boys.
Justin
by the way its "larrop" (if anyone was wondering?)
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Justin
As you can see things got a bit out of hand and from me to you I'm sorry for that.As for the fact of having a n/a 13b in a ta22 I can't see it being a problem.I know that the engine bay of the 22 is a bit shorter than the 23 but I have plenty of room left and it should fit.Mine is only an n/a 13b not the quickest but it is a bit different which is what I was after and as it was built to do lots of miles (out west) I kept most thing standard so that if something broke I could get it from toyota or mazda.
I have had very little problems with mine BUT they are hard on plugs.If you are looking at something that goes good and is a bit different take one for a drive and see if you like it.I don't know how you like your cars and how much you will use it so just how angry you want something is up to you.A big ported rotary is like a piston engine with a big cam just to give you an idea.I have found my mild port to be good in daily traffic it doesn't get hot or anything like that so as I said take one that is close to the specs you want for a drive and decide yourself after all it is up to you
MRTA22
if I got you off side than I'm sorry but after making the call as you said I should I was told that it is not possible as I said all along I to was just trying to help
It was Mazsport that I rang and I trust what he has to say.All I ask from you is respect I did my homework before to to set things straight not make you look bad
Everyone else
This forum I feel is here to help us all, not make someone look bad or stupid and I never ment to come across that way,but I still feel that if you feel strongly about something let it be known with out calling someone a dick or anything like that,it's not needed and people don't like it
so in closing sorry to all for the shit fight and to you also MRTA22 more so.
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Thankyou TOYROTA for the reply. I will be speaking to Rocco's asap to get to the bottom of this. Either they were pulling my leg or the company you spoke to didnt quite understand. I am not at my place at the moment so it makes it a bit hard to sort this out and i can only get on the net every few days. The only reason i continually argued is because i had a written detailed quote for this very engine yet i stupidly threw it out a little while ago. As soon as i can get to Rocco's i will get him to write it down and i will scan it onto here and also give you his contact number so you dont think i am geeing him up. I love to learn and i would never gee anyone up to win an argument.These forums are here for us to exchange opinions and ideas in often heated circumstances, and i love it so much i try to come on everyday! I am a mechanic but i am not a Rotary guru at all. I assure you that you would know a great deal more about rotary's than i do its just given the circumstances this time i had to argue back....i hope you understand. Please do not take it as a personal disagreement (even though i may have led it that way) i hope we can get over it no matter who is right and continue to offer help to others in the future, and perhaps to cruise the rota against the 3TGTEU to see if i made the right descision after all. Jamie
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Cool, let me get this right.
If I buy two 20b Cosmo 1/2 cuts, join them together to make a super TA22 6 rotor monster, bolt on a couple of huge bus turbo's and move the firewall back a meter or so and drive the car from the back seat I should be sweet as long as I super glue that 12a front plate on the front. SWEET! Thanks boys I must go get started right away, anyone got a hammer?
Justin
just kidding, thanks Rod that makes more sense to me.
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Hi Rod, i just got home after a week away so i have had very limited access to the net. Looks like you have solved it for us. I wasnt sure how they went about it only that i could have a 13B that appeared as a 12A. As you said i guess both myself and TOYROTA were correct in a sense so then we are even.
TOYROTA, i hope this explains it and it couldnt have turned out better, after all that bitching we were both correct!!! Hope you dont hold a gruge and it would be cool to catch up one day and see your car.( I think you live near me? Liverpool??)
Catch ya's all later. Jamie.
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Sat, 25 May 2002 10:01
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I was thinking about this the other day, and isn't it the rotor housings that have the '12A' or '13B' in it?
So you would actually have to get out the little grinder out, grind off the '13B's, and then you have a 13B with an engine no. that starts with 12A (as the engine no. is on the end end plate).
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Sat, 25 May 2002 10:52
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Bigworm,
That sounds like it dude !!
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Sat, 25 May 2002 23:39
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As we were both right don't take this the wrong way but the point I was making is that the rotor housing is were the size difference is so with 12a housings it will always be a 12a reguardless of what is in side.as for grinding off the 13b that is what some have done in the past,then they polish the housing for that "clean look" (not because the engine is to big  )
hope that clears up my side of things and MRTA22 I'm over it so don't worry
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Sun, 26 May 2002 05:11
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Boys I finished that link, you now check out the beast online.
Justin
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Sun, 26 May 2002 10:21
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justin! by any chance do you now Nat Jack from the navy?
i think she married a guy named russel?
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Mon, 27 May 2002 02:49
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I use to have an RS2000!
it was my first car!
the photo would look unreal!
should have my car at the dynoday if you are around!
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Mon, 27 May 2002 03:22
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This is the third time I’ve actually written this post. Each time I try to submit my work it dies. Cameron’s Escort is a 1979 Mk11. It has a show quality gold paint job, 17” Simmons wheels, roll cage, race seats, rally computer, LSD rear end, big brakes, 2 litre donk, twin webers, race exhaust, and a monster Pioneer sound system. He’s won a heap of trophies in Tassy over the years. He got sick of the show car scene so he decided to go road racing with the car two years ago with a mate. Cameron and I are making a come back in November for the 2002 Tasmanian Lactos Challenge. I’m the interstate navigator with no experience. Should be interesting or bloody dangerous, most likely both! We don’t plan on winning but we plan on swinging some mean nuts for the boys during the Devonport street stage, so look out for us! The car has had a fair bit of money invested in it and he loves to drive it hard as nails. Future mods for this year’s rally will include new FIA approved race seats, a new stronger bottom end and some slight roll cage mods.
Transport Tasmania approved an AU XR8 V8 engine conversion last year but Cameron had other plans including a stinking hot Cosworth twin cam. Unfortunately this has also been put on hold due to the fact he wants to keep his options open for Targa Tasmania in 2003. The Targa Tasmania governing body will only allow cars to run with the originally engine fitted. A nice tweaked up Cossie turbo would certainly get the Esky low flying. I could see Cameron and I flying past Jim Richards in his ½ million dollar Porsche doing nearly 300kph . Oh well shit happens, we will just have to stick with the big pinto Ford 2 litre and rev its tits off!
I’ll post a nice pic here tomorrow when I get home from work.
Justin
How do I post a pic ***here***????
[Updated on: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:11]
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Mon, 27 May 2002 06:39
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Eskys are sick mate, tell us more about it!
Is Mk 1 or 2?
I have had four different mates all own eskys. Here's a pick of one of 'em:
This esky was a beast, 2 litre motor, nice lumpy cam, shaved head, twin webers (I think they were webbers) with the four little trumpets (which never had a filter on 'em....  ), supra 5 speed, and the sweet sparco seats.
Another mate had a Mk1 with 2 litre, twin dellortos (once again, I think), schmick velour interior with matching seats out of an alfa or something, and a sweet paintjob.
I was just saying to someone today, I wouldn't mind getting an escort one day (and I was actually talking about the car, too).
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 Confession !
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Mon, 27 May 2002 10:36
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Well Ok I had one too !!!
Yep for 3 whole weeks of Registration (After a month of working onit to get it thru blue slip)
What Can I say my xA23 Celica was written off (Long Story) and I needed a car. 2 of my mates had Escorts (1 RS2000 1 2.0Lt Ghia) So when I saw a cheap Rally Pack 2 door I grabbed it !
It cost me a bit to get it onraod (new rack, tyres and bits and pieces)
Then in 3 weeks of rego I managed to blow the Diff the Gearbox and Finally the engine !!! So I sold it for Exactly what it had cost me (Including repairs) and Got my first TA22 !!
I will give them one thing tho....Damn they Rally well !
And if I though noone was listening I might even confess to likeing the MKI shape too ! 
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